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Posted: 5/16/2006 12:15:14 AM | I kinda like wearing dresses and skirts. Especially the silky flirty type skirts. Feels good
against the skin. Its nice to get dressed up and a bonus if you have someone to dress
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Posted: 5/16/2006 2:36:36 AM | I think Bull is right, and there are pluses to wearing a dress like RDToo and his kilt you can go commando and feel the breeze. "eye laddie" | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:49:14 AM |
It's not about dressing up to get a man. A woman can get a man wearing a cardboard box. It's about enjoying the fact of attraction, and how you feel wearing clothes designed to accentuate what the other sex finds attractive
Bull..you hit the nail on the head...I love to dress in flowing clothes..and I do feel sexy. I have never been a slave to fashion, but rather enjoy the versatility that clothes provide. Wether wearing a skirt and blouse, or tight jeans for the occasion, it really exists within yourself. It is about how you feel that particular day. It is an expression of how you feel towards yourself and the one person you happen to be with. Clothes are a visual stimulant that can arouse all kinds of emotion. I like the look of a man with his fly on his jeans half undone and no shirt on. I also like the 40's style with a man in dress clothes for an evening out. Clothes enhance the desires and badly dressed men and women are a drag. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 8:35:16 AM | | RDtoo, I for one agree with you about the mystique of dressing like a lady. I enjoy being a girl and I know how to dress. Sure I wear jeans, flannels and hiking boots when I'm hiking but wish I could wear a dress and heels when going out to eat. Nowadays, I'm usually overdressed. And say what you will, isn't it more attractive for a gal to leave something to the imagination? I think our culture has gone way overboard with blatant sexuality. Thanks to all you guys who appreciate femininity. Sure wish you were around here! | |
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Posted: 5/17/2006 1:59:41 PM | It's not the clothes, it's the woman. I've known women who were "dressed to the 9's", but were not "sexy". But I've also met women who were in jeans and flannel shirts that made my jaw drop and "oh, my god" was all I could say.
As they say Clothes don't make the Man.
Same goes for the ladies as well. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2006 3:01:45 PM | | I love wearing pretty dresses, but have you got any idea how hard it is to find pretty flirty clothes around here? I have to go to specialty shops just for cute sundresses that fit me nicely. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2006 7:44:01 AM | Hi! I've worn dresses and skirts and high heels ALL of my life; I ignore what the fashion industry or anyone else thinks about what I should wear.
I love being a woman.....see picture...
Smiles, Ally | |
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Posted: 5/26/2006 8:15:25 AM | RDToo and his kilt you can go commando and feel the breeze.
Know what they say about what's worn under the kilt in Scotland?
Nothing - it's all in perfect working order! | |
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Posted: 5/26/2006 8:27:29 AM | | No need to fire away RDtoo...I prefer to wear dresses, stockings, heels, etc....some days I prefer to wear very feminine ones, other days more tailored, sometimes vintage. It's whatever stikes my mood that day. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2006 10:52:14 AM | "It also makes me think that our culture was more sexual 40 years ago when women wore these things than it is now." No, not more sexual, just more bound by sex role definitions. (I wear a dress, stockings, high heels, therefore I am a female. Trousers, jackets, flat shoes = a male.) At one time, powdered wigs and a multitude of ruffled lace were all the rage for both males and females--but not to be outdone by the male fops of their acquaintance, these females in high society needed to differentiate themselves from the guys and so wore sheer dresses which accentuated their uniquely female forms--or outright bared one breast to prove their femaleness. This was done in fine salons in Europe and was considered daring fashion but not immoral in large urban centres. In small towns, on the other hand, the women covered up, and the men thought lacy jabots were affected ridiculousness and very impractical.
"Women used to call themselves ladies and dress to be attractive." ... and here I will add "attractive---to MEN" who dictated fashion back then and still do largely. A woman's view of what she likes and finds interesting and fashionable and/or sexy is largely relative to her experience in her life, her influences, her moral views, and her comfort with her sexuality as a 'female' and NOT as a 'lady/woman'. Any man who wants to can don the feminine attire/uniform--stockings, make-up, high heels, dress, etc.--and pass for 'feminine'. The packaging is NOT the product--but 'the media IS the message'.
Sexy/feminine is in the eye of the beholder (Jane/Joe Public) who has been heavily influenced by Hollywood movies and common culture. Other cultures find other dress sexy or feminine. These cultures may or may not find Hollywood culture sexy or feminine. Men will always be attracted to a woman's form if he's attracted to females. Women will always be attracted to a man's form if she's attracted to males. Culture dictates what that form will look like, and men dominate and determine what will be in most, if not all, cultures. Cultures within cultures are different too in what is considered feminine, masculine, etc.
From neck rings that elongate an African tribeswoman's neck to (by our standards) ridiculous and uncomfortable lengths, to whale-bone corsets that required women to remove a rib in order to fit into them, and smelling salts to be omnipresent in case of a faint due to lack of oxygen in the constricted airways, women will always be slaves to the cultural fashion of their day when it is dictated by men. Men have always required that feminine sexuality be defined, prescribed, and limited by them because female sexuality unleashed is a frightening thing. If a female gets to have her way sexually with a male, then he can become expendable. She can have her use of him and discard him and he may not have any knowledge of or rights to his own offspring. When humans became aware of the cause and effect nature of sex to pregnancy, 'fashion' was born. Everything from filthy iron chastity belts with locks and keys and tiny excreting holes, to the severely deformed bound feet of Oriental women were designed to keep women's sexuality on a tight leash.
High heels and garters and stockings is no different today because it limits a woman's ability to move quickly and walk with athletic ease and speed. (And yet, we can even do that!! ""Ginger Rogers did everything that Fred Astaire did. She just did it backwards and in high heels." --Texas Governor, Ann Richards) Even flat, strappy sandals that don't stay put are the same thing--they make it hard to run away easily. And most of these fashions are still dictated by men for men. If a woman wants to feel sexy and attract a man's attention, cultural norms for feminine dress dictate what she can choose from and what options she has.
The prescribed norm of tight anything, pantyhose, and high heels are uncomfortable and damaging to women's self-image and to our very health too. Tight jeans cause all kinds of circulation problems, pantyhose trigger yeast infections, and high heels throw weight forward onto metatarsals and create postural and spinal disorders, metatarsal stress fractures, knee dysfunction, and on and on. Men who are so stuck on specific styles of dress to give them that requisite rise in their trousers are doing themselves and the women in their lives a real disservice.
"how you feel wearing clothes designed to accentuate what the other sex finds attractive." Exactly--with the emphasis on the "how you feel" part.
"The shift in focus from mutual enjoyment to power struggle explains the change in fashions and attitudes." Not true, and a direct contradiction to the previous observation. Wearing clothes that (only) men find sexy and enjoyable is and was NEVER about mutual enjoyment. It's ALWAYS been about allowing the male to feel dominant, so that he can feel less threatened, and can 'get it up' and do his manly duty to create more males to carry on the family name and inherit the family estate. As I said, femininity by women for women is not the same at all as femininity by men for men. It is men who need to come to their senses and be more open-minded about this issue and start paying better attention to WHATEVER it is that gives them that spontaneous 'tickle in their pickle'. (Assuming that the 'whatever' is legal and non-harmful to their object of desire.)
"(jeans and skirts look the same when they're on the floor)" So true!! And it's the same for garters, stockings, filmy lingerie, stilettos, etc., etc. If a woman naked is all it takes for a certain guy to feel the 'tickle' then no clothes at all should be his requirement of his gal for that. I'm sure that most prostitutes have a completely different idea of what is sexy when they are off the job, and although they might dress in a certain way for their clients, they are likely dreaming of a high-necked, full-length bridal gown with tons of fabric, a significant veil and footwear quite hidden--and a sweet gentleman who loves her for her resilience and her laughter and her desire to make him proud of her. I'll bet that any gal like that cries herself to sleep and masturbates to a fantasy like that. It's all a question of cultural influences, and HER culture dictates that she is always the object of sexual desire and seldom of love.
Let the ladies guide you, gents. Let them experiment with fabrics, styles, undergarments, and footwear until they find their own sexual expression that makes them feel wonderful and feminine and sexy. Then find it in your heart to experience THAT as desirable. Allow your woman the freedom to choose her everyday wear. And, if a woman knows that her guy is still stuck even after trying to keep an open mind, and that the only sure-fire way she can get an instant response from him is by dressing up in a teeny-weenie uplift bra, a hankie-sized swatch of sheer lace and some 6" stilts/stilettos, etc., then okay, let her do that as a special favour for him when she is up to it, and has the time and inclination to 'role play'. If she knows that it is going to involve only 15 to 30 minutes of discomfort to her feet and feeling a bit ridiculous, for the purpose of his erotic needs, and not a whole evening of agony being required to go to dinner, or walk anywhere in shoes like this, then I’m sure she’ll be very happy to oblige you.
But, please, please! do try to keep an open mind and actively experiment along with her in the other modes too. Attraction SHOULD be a mutual enjoyment activity--and NOT a power struggle (unless that's what turns both of you on and it's by mutual, not coerced, consent.) What in heaven's name is wrong with a woman saying "My goodness, honey! You look positively ravishing in my bathrobe! I had no idea that ruffles were so sexy on a man!!" anyway? And likewise, "Darling, I had a fantasy just now that you were gardening naked behind the bushes in the backyard and I can't believe how I am so turned on by that!!" (the backyard with the 6' privacy fence, of course)--and let her help develop that fantasy with you so that back-breaking stilettos don't have to be the tired old prescription for instant passion. There is nothing worse for a woman's self-image than to feel like a caricature of a female. It defeats the whole purpose. It's just not sexy at all--for her. IMHO, of course!!
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Posted: 5/26/2006 4:25:48 PM | | I won't "fire away" at you. I feel sexiest (even in my work clothes) when I wear a pair of heels that just high enough to make me walk with a sway ..... | |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 12:13:02 PM | | With the heat we are having in BC Canada right now, I'd love to be able to wear a comfortable summer dress (the type that doesn't have a waistband to cut into the bod) - but I just can't find one anywhere | |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 12:26:53 PM | hey Scott! .. as usual agreement!!! thought you were on the road today?? lol ..
... high heels cause the calf muscle to shrink .. can play havoc with the bones, hips, back . .. skeletal structure .. etc.. some sexy huh! ...
... clothes don't make ya sexy .. geez .. its all about attitude.. hmmm tempted to post a pic that some will think sexy as hell and others would run for the hills!! .. said tempted . didn't say i was gonna!!! 
.. as for dressing up IF he's taking me to a fine restaurant and paying!!!??? hmm sorta suggests a whole nuther type of relationship category that isn't on PoF!  ..
... my bare toes are sexy! 
wanda | |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 4:43:14 PM | What is it with the way we dress, anyway? Who created the rule that A man had to wrap a skinny little piece of cloth around his neck, and knot it a certain way, and that ladies had to wear uncomfortable shoes, and things to shape their bodies in ways that are not natural?
I wear bluejeans, boots, and yes a baseball-type cap outside, but I do not wear it backwards...
I would love to meet someday, a lady dressed just like me! | |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 5:02:02 PM | Yes, Ma'am, the kind with non skid soles for riding, not the slippery leather soles for two-stepping (although I do have those, just not much chance to use them).
Which brings up another question.. is it mandatory to wear a Charlie One'horse hat and such to two step these days? And if you do the Cottoneyed Joe, are you allowed to do it in work boots??, because the whole idea of that dance is to be kickin' the Bullxxxx off of yer boots! | |
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Posted: 7/23/2006 5:39:42 PM | Thanks RD, I love this thread LOL ,,, has been very educational to me.
"bullet bras?" ,,, dare I ask ,,, nope, I am better off not knowing, being voluptuous, I hate bra's anyways ,,, am an expert on discretely and hopefully undetected ,,,removing my bra on the drive home ,,, LOL ,,, and before you ask, NOPE I do not ride the BUS. ;o)~
Kilts ?,,, shhhh,the draft is lovely? ,,, oooooo is anyone using the shower now? LOL
Feminism? ... who said that? ,,, I won't touch that with a 10 foot pole, at least not on this thread, ,,,, UFFFF ;p}~~~~
OK, truth be known, I wear pants to work and I dress in femine for dates, social events and parties. I have a few near see through lacy bras even ,,, well they are mostly stretch lace so I do not mind, lol
On a final note, yes I do dress for me ,,, like the song goes ""I'm so pretty ,,,""" Rose ;o)~ | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 1:24:51 PM | I love these old threads
Dress however you want. It's your bod and you are the one who will have to bear the consequences.
If dressing to impress a man remember:
#1 you MUST leave something to the imagination
#2 as far as the cloting itself goes, men are only interested in how much trouble it is to get you out of them.
Woody | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 9:45:56 PM | Hmmm...our culture being more "sexual" 40 years ago? Forty years ago people were also expected to dress for dinner, wear white on the tennis court, dress up on Sunday, wear proper clothes on the golf course, and take hats off when indoors. I think you are correct if you are referring to the culture being more specific about gender roles. Being feminine really has nothing to do with the trappings. Forty years ago we were much more indoctrinated to our future social roles by defining what are Boy clothes; Girl clothes; toys for girls; toys for boys; rules for girls; rules for boys; careers for girls; careers for boys. I resisted being pigeonholed very early in life. I remember being sent home from school in 6th grade for wearing pants to school, even though it was 20 below. I had dolls and took the mommy-helper class, but grew up wanting a college education and a career, not babies. I wanted to be an archeologist, not a teacher, or a mommy, or a nurse, or a secretary. Being feminine has more to do with being self-confident, yielding when appropriate, and taking pride in your body.
As for the trappings of "femininity" that you enjoy so much, there's nothing wrong with appreciating the wardrobe. Ask your lady to wear them for you. Most women enjoy pleasing their man. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 5:01:11 AM | I'd even go back to wearing those blasted ties that choked the life out of you if women would go back to skirts, stockings, and garters. I miss Marilyn, Natalie, Ava, or the style and grace in the old black and white movies. Lauren, Claudette, Rita, Elizabeth, Bette. Time to turn on AMC.  | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 7:21:05 AM | Maybe the fellas should try panty hose, high heels and a skirt and see how comfy that is
I did , went to a fancy dress party and I was the one nominated to dress in womens clothes.
Had a lot strange men chasing me and complaning about my hairy legs ,, : the hairs were sticking through the tights. Going to the loo was the big event , tights down petticoats up not a pretty sight to look at .  | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 8:48:09 AM | I have a cross dressing friend who loves to wear pantyhose and female clothing. He loves the way it feels on him. To each their own. lol
Me? I prefer comfort. Much more comfortable in jeans and tee shirts. Last job I had I wore nothing but orange tee shirt, jeans, orange hard hat and steel toed boots. That gets tiring real quick too.
But I do have to admit that lately I have been wearing more skirts and dresses. Last night an older female friend and I went to a jazz concert. She was wearing slacks and I wore a skirt. It just made me feel more feminine. I have nice legs. Why shouldn't I show them every once in awhile? | |
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