woozoo
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Msg: 26 | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 3:33:21 PM | ^^^
Do you know something I don't??
Umm... having kids is a part of life no? No kids... no life. So what's up with silly questions? | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 3:39:45 PM | Interesting viewpoint. For women that want children, AveryRed's concerns aren't going to stop them even for a moment. The procreation process is natural and the way it's been and suppose to be. However, itt seems to me there is still an inequity in modern society.
Realistically there is a greater financial burden on women for having children. I.e. medical expenses, loss of income or using up sick days. There have been cases of pregnancy descrimination on the job. I'm not sure what can be done to make it more balanced.
Again it's not going to make women reconsider having children.
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Posted: 5/16/2006 3:40:48 PM |
Our society glamorizes pregnancy and childbirth. Sweating profusely, you'd better throw yourself on the ground and invoke the name of God in prayer that your kids suffer no birth defects. Moreover, consider the physical destruction of your wife.
Childbirth is hard on women. Their skin stretches out of proportion and their breasts sag. Some never lose the additional weight gained. Veins and bruises become permanently visible. Their hair falls out. If there are no serious complications in delivery, she may still be left with hemorrhoids. And this is the good news.
Oh My!! Where on earth are you getting your info? If I would have read this 21 years ago, I probably wouldn't have a wonderful son! LOL I weighed 117 the day of delivery and 107 two days later. No stretch marks. My hair grew like wild and hemorrhoids are fixed at the time of delivery, IF she has them. My ta tas are just fine (I did not breastfeed, however.) I had terrible complications and still came out without much more than a bunch of stitches. I fear someone has poisoned you (sort of like you'll go blind if you masterbate!!! LOL) Take a look at Brittney Spears, she's on baby #2 and looks wonderful. Katie Holmes, another good example and she was HUGE!!! If a woman takes care of herself, does not overeat, cares for her skin ~ I promise, the only thing you will notice is a wonderful glow (even though that is a corny term!!!) As for the RH factor, that is a thing of the past. It's more than treatable and there are very little risks now even with differing blood types. I truly hope you don't really think this ~ how sad.  | |
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woozoo
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Joined: 6/14/2005
Msg: 29 | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 3:57:18 PM | Re-read the OP post, and I've got some issues here:
Our society glamorizes pregnancy and childbirth. Sweating profusely, you'd better throw yourself on the ground and invoke the name of God in prayer that your kids suffer no birth defects.
The reason is simple, no kids no society. That much is common sense. If you believe in God, then you know life is not a paradise, but meant to be a trial. Call it character building.
Childbirth is hard on women. Their skin stretches out of proportion and their breasts sag. Some never lose the additional weight gained. Veins and bruises become permanently visible. Their hair falls out. If there are no serious complications in delivery, she may still be left with hemorrhoids. And this is the good news.
And how would you explain the MILF phenomenon?
The bad news comes with odd blood types, complications in pregnancy and delivery, birth abnormalities and incompetent or careless doctors and nurses. Remember, malpractice insurance premiums haven't skyrocketed because doctors are all shinning examples of professional integrity. An alarming percentage of these guys are real clowns. You should ask yourself if you want to subject your wife or girlfriend to this.
My learnered friend, one does not require a doctor or nurse to give birth. Through the ages women have given birth without such assistance, and in conditions that would make your hair stand on end.
So the question is, what's the point of your post? You seem bored. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:08:37 PM | Yet another group of reasons why I am never having kids.
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:18:40 PM | If you were my son I'd smack you.
Wome are beautiful while pregnant, their bellies growing with the gift of a life, a wonderful child. Only some women do not loose the weight they gain, I lost 35 lbs during my pregnancy with sickness, do I hold that against my son? Hell no, all 3 of my children are my joy, my happiness and my heaven, a feeling only another parent could experience. My husband stood by me for all 3 deliveries and thought it was a beautiful experience and loved me all the more for it. I pray for any woman that dates you. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:33:32 PM | Op: of all the superficial, shallow and immature opinions, I have to say this one rates in the top 10.
Besides the fact, a great deal of women have gone through the metamorphisis you have described on this site, it somehow seems to imply they are somehow inferior now because of it.
I don't have children but I think child birth is a beautiful thing. To complain about a scar when in return you get a reason for living....is just detached and self-absorbed.
I am getting to know more and more men these days that are the primary custodian of their children. I work in the health industry so deal quite often with single dads these days. Some guys make better care givers than their spouses do.
My brother-in-law is a wonderful stay-at-home dad while my sister works.
I just find a lot of these comments just not based in reality. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:37:52 PM | | There are some threads that are started with a tongue-in-cheek post to ruffle feathers and start some squawking. I wouldn't be too quick to take everything you read here at face value. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:43:15 PM | | Hmm ops comments didn't seem too tongue-in-cheek to me. I do believe these are his serious opinions. Probably why most are addressing him seriously back. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:47:47 PM | | It would be too sad if it were posted in earnest. But maybe you're right. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 5:53:34 PM | | blastkist........AMEN!!! I only have one and I know he was/is a gift. It is amazing how much you can love one tiny little being...awsume. I dont' regret the 40lbs I haven't been able to lose lol he is worth every ounce!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 6:10:24 PM | trldy - Thank you!!!!
Avery - You are an idiot.
No, just getting married to somebody does not mean you now have a family.
If it does mean that to you, suit yourself.
Yes, women suffer physically from childbirth, but not everybody (rather few, actually) turn into plane crash victims after having children.
Most love almost everything about pregnancy, as well as being mothers, regardless of how wildly that makes the feminists froth at the mouth and drool with hatred.
It's called Nature, and it's about 10,000 Billion times stronger than all of us put together.
I have the dubious talent of picking ladies who either don't want to, or for some reason can't have any children, and describing how much I HATE it would probably get me banned from the site.
I better stop here. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 6:47:20 PM | | Dude you have some of the wierdest posts I've ever read. babies are fun even when they spit on you :) women have babies and women are fun too imagine what it would do to you if you had a baby . like pushing a bowling ball through a garden hose . ouch . | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 6:52:29 PM | Where did you get the perceptions you have of this whole issue?..
Sorry to hear you've made such a beautiful experience
as life sound like such a horrible tragedy!..
(hope you don't have a following)
I'm not sure what kind of view I would calls yours
but I wouldn't say realistic by any stretch...(no pun intended) | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 6:53:23 PM | | Hey Polly G, you have a nice smile and pretty eyes! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 7:07:26 PM | for: toscottm:
Nice one.
Just in case we weren't all being negative enough..................
lol - lmao
gogirl | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 7:42:21 PM | Procreating is fun!!!
Anyone up for some procreating?
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Posted: 5/16/2006 7:51:35 PM |
There aren't a lot of men that give the first thought to how childbirth effects their wife.
I think >A LOT< of human behaviour isn't really based on thinking. People mostly act based on their biological and sociological programming.
People get in to terrible relationships, make the same mistakes over and over and over again (not just in relationships, but in all areas of life) for their whole lives.. and they don't even know why. People just act... do what feels right at the time. | |
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Sarahv
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Joined: 1/29/2006
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Posted: 5/16/2006 7:54:40 PM | | This is a very weird thing . I've read a few of these and I'm a fer fraid !! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 8:01:36 PM | hmmm
sweating profusely - Didnt happen for me.. I had a csection no pushing involved..
birthdefects - thankfully my child didn't have any but if she did I wouldn't love her any less.
skin stretches - hmmm nope I was fat.. my skin was already streched..
saggy breast - see fat comment above..
lose weight - i've lost 90lbs only gained 20lbs during my pregnancy..
hairloss - nope.. that didn't happen..
veins and bruises - nope my doc did such a great job with my csection you can't even see the scar..
Hemmoroids - didn't have those either..
if I had any of those horrible things during my pregnancy.. bringing a life into this world.. having the chance to teach, love and nurture another human unconditionally.. getting hugs, kisses, and macaroni home made mother's day cards and necklaces.. so make every freaken pain, hurt, push, sweat, hemmoroid well worth it.. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 8:15:57 PM | As a mother of four....the youngest (twins) are graduating HS in two weeks...I have to say, I am NOT one of those who loved being pregnant! I gained a way to much weight with my first one (too young...took "eating for two" too seriously!), had severe HBP w/ #2 and was on bedrest for the last 4 1/2 months, and with #'2 and 3....well, self explanatory...I had two babies at once! LOL But absolutely NOTHING brings me more joy, pride, sense of accomplishment, or love, than my children. They are blessings...nothing less!
For the doofus who said our snatches never feel the same....PUH-Lease! They go right back to the norm...that's why we suffer contractions during childbirth! If these little babies can hold a little ole tampon in place...they can definitely feel nice enough for a man! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 8:18:02 PM | I would like to vote this thread the most negative thread I have read since joining POF.
I sure hope you never have Daughter's. You will scare the poor children to death explaining childbirth to them. I can just imigine how you would explain the change in their bodies as they go through puberty and the facts of life.
Wonder why so many Idiots in Society have more than one child if it is as terrible an experience as you portray it to be ? Granted there are incidents of childbirth tragedies,but why dwell on the negative when there are so many beautiful childbirth experiences also?
The Birth of my Daughter was the most wonderful experience of my life. I will always cherish the Birth of my baby, knowing I experienced the miracle of childbirth without any drugs , not even an epederial. Real men actually admire the beauty of a pregnant woman and see her as a woman of beauty and sensuality. Something must be wrong with me. I didn't experience any of the horrible things you wrote about. I experienced a time in my life of peace, joy, and contentment due to the birth of my daughter. I am still a very vibrant woman, full of the same passion and wonderment about life as before experiencing childbirth, yet I am also a very changed woman. a woman touched by experiencing natural childbirth and seeing my baby actually being born, hearing her cry, feeling her tiny fingers as they curled around mine when she lay on my chest, feeling her heart beat against mine, and seeing the beauty as she lie there , my little angel from God.
Avery, the good news is .. there is help available for people like you. I suggest you call your local Mental Health Center as soon as possible for an appointment and maybe even your regurlar Doctor. Ever heard of Prozac? I think it was made just for you.
Men like you should have vasectomies when you reach puberty. I can certainly see why you haven't dated much. It is a good thing yaknow. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 8:35:04 PM | I have one kid, and that is IT. I am not a baby machine, I don't have any unfulfilled needs to nurture a houseful of kids. That does not sound like a good time to me personally. (Not saying it isn't right for others, so stop) My kangaroo pouch is bad enough after having one 10 lb baby. NO MORE!  The birth was weird and somewhat complicated. Babies are strange little beings, I like my guy better now that we can have conversations and he can wipe his own butt.
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Posted: 5/16/2006 8:37:20 PM | AveryRad ... Are you angry about something?
For the record, my wife was absolutely gorgeous - before,during and after her pregnancy. And, so what if she had kept a few pounds or picked up some sretch marks? Should I have felt differently about her then?
Her health broke about 2 years before she passed away. As a result, she lost her outward beauty. Guess what? I loved her just as much. Those last 2 years taught me so much about love and what is really important in life.
Physical beauty is great and, like most men, I'm visually attracted. However, at the end of the day, it's what she has inside that sustains love across the years.
I feel like someone needs to tell you to just grow up. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 8:45:11 PM |
Avery - You are an idiot.
He is not an idiot. What he has posted is how it really is. Even if you want children, giving birth is not a pretty thing. It was very refreashing to see a man actually care about what women go through to bring children into this world.
No, just getting married to somebody does not mean you now have a family.
If it does mean that to you, suit yourself.
Yes, getting married does make you a family, even if you never have children. When you have children, you are adding to the family. I know many people that are married and don't have and never will have children, but they sure think of themselves as a family. | |
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