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 bthere4ya

Joined: 6/3/2005
Msg: 151
why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 6:58:49 AM
Nice guys go to bars too we just don't leave with women.
 gtxblueyes

Joined: 1/4/2005
Msg: 152
why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 7:05:52 AM
Seems some women , like men have that attraction to what is just not best for them, but then the heart is blind. Hate to say it something may be in your past or make up that caused this, and yes the chances are you may have a few more bad relationships, but keep trying your perfect catch is out there.
 Sweetcuteddybear

Joined: 8/23/2006
Msg: 153
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Posted: 9/3/2006 7:09:52 AM
LOVE IS NOT A MANY SPLENDERED THING! Been there done that. Truth is you know your heart. But you mind is not in control. What is good will endure. What is bad and never meant to be will suck the life out of you. Learning to let go and move on is the hardest lesson to learn. Speaking as one who has been used and abused I look for the good in the relationship and move on. I am better for having loved. I did my share of eyeballing so it is not a critical part of the equation. YOU ARE IN LOVE WITH THE IDEA OF BEING IN LOVE> SNAP OUT OF IT!
Cito
 blizzydodge68

Joined: 6/20/2006
Msg: 154
why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 7:21:47 AM
Hey Anita! If all your friends and family think this guys an a$$hole, listen to them they know you better than anyone else. Take your family's advice don't bother with this guy cause chances are he is doin the same thing to someone else right now, you may not know this. I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a couple of other ladies stringing along if he's that bad. You can do better than this and you know it. There are quite a few nice guys out there and they really do exist. Take care Anita! Good Luck Hon! Blizzy
 trubblemakr

Joined: 4/29/2006
Msg: 155
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why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 7:30:41 AM
hmm why do u like ***holes??
well in a nushell. id have to say most of your school yrs u were the talk of the town, the untouchable one or the shy quiet one. u were aloodf and stayed among a set group of peple who treated u one way. as u get older the regular becomes unacceptable and u subconciously seek rejection as a form of attraction, as long as the rejection continues to draw u in u will forever be trapped with that type of person, id suggest u read some psychology books , maybe about manipulative patterns and a lil about being more assertive, these type of men scurry away from stronger women who have no problem stating their intentions and being direct .
its alright to forgive the odd mistake of your partner but when the mistakes start to become the main focus of your relationship and u start trying to make excuse after excuse for the other person u will very soon b on the road u are or were on with this guy.
we were all in relationships like that at one time. we go from thinking we deserve the attention of the person to craving even the slightest nice act that become further n further between, and these are the ones that stand out in our minds because over time we condition ourselves that way. it is all a form of manipulation and whether the partner knowingly is manipulating us or abusing us , the situation will eventually leave u friendless, lonely and at the bottom of a deep hole .
 MetalQueen

Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 156
why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 7:42:48 AM
i think the way women on here define a$$holes is a lil off. stuff like when a guy sees you one night then another girl the next doesn't make him an Ahole, it makes you a needy pyscho.
the reason i like typical Aholes is because they aren't clingy or needy and usually understand that the whole purpose to dating is to test waters and keep all your options open. bad guys are the new good guys. women u need to cut guys some slack because certain things they do are just about being a guy.
 IGotRhythm2

Joined: 7/27/2006
Msg: 157
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:02:06 AM
I think its interesting that you said that you broke up with him, and that he is resisting getting involved again. I don't quite get how that makes him an a$$hole.
 Senor Spode

Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 158
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:02:43 AM
Well, some go well beyond it just being a guy thing. There's nothing wrong with being a 'ladies man'. But when that person deliberately isolates himself by being an a**hole to people other than the women they affiliate with, there's something wrong. If someone is 'cool' to people in general, most people will feel he deserves having success with women.
 Indigo Rose

Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 159
why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 8:03:43 AM
Ya it's nuts.
It is a fact that many women can't tell the difference between put on machismo and violent
bull puckey that is often a mask for a LACK of confidence...and real manhood.
I find this whole theory about women dating ***holes (yours, and the rest of the world's) to be completely false. I think a lot of "nice" guys have made this up to make themselves feel better about the fact that they don't have dates,
that the women they know are in relationships with BAD BOYS, and not with them.
There's a whole shitload of guys who describe themselves as 'nice'...yet stomp through life with a big ole chip on their shoulder, spitting poison about how all those horrible women have the gall to deny them the love they're owed by virtue of their anger besotted "niceness"... damn it.



Just my take, since that's mine in a nutshell (help help I'm in a nutshell!).




Okay Recap:
Women are turned-on by an Alpha type who has that whole “mischievous little boy” thing going on.we crave bad boys....bad boys are just good in bed.
Spank me!
 i_m_cdn_grl

Joined: 5/14/2006
Msg: 160
why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 8:05:41 AM
I don't like a$$holes. Been there, done that. I like attitude...this is not the same definition.

A guy cannot be classifed as an a$$hole just because his ESP is not working. They are not mind readers, the same as we aren't. I have to laugh out here sometimes. You see it all the time..here and IRL...you are automatically classified as an a$$hole or a b*tch if you're not interested in the other person. Today is National Get Over it Day!!!
 Senor Spode

Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 161
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:07:59 AM
There's a big difference between a James Dean type 'mischievous' bad boy, and an Eddie Haskell type a**hole. If someone is 'cool', I'm happy for whatever success they have. With women or anything else.
 hywman3p

Joined: 1/24/2006
Msg: 162
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:12:59 AM
You don't have a problem what you have is life this is only a short stopping point in that life.Get over him look for some one who really looks at you
 lazythekid

Joined: 6/7/2005
Msg: 163
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:21:14 AM
i could be wrong , i don't know you , but if i was you , i would ask myself , if this is about my ego , if you got him back , i suspect you would dump him , this is not a real problem and it will work itself out in time , in my opinion .you are not a loser at anything , until you quit , you can loose every battle , but one , and still win a war , figuretively speaking . lighten up on yourself , your problem will work itself out , trust your self , follow your heart , but keep a check on it with your mind , this may sound like bs , it could be , what do you think ?
 IGotRhythm2

Joined: 7/27/2006
Msg: 164
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:25:30 AM
Hey Indigo, anger besotted "niceness"....thats a great statement!

I never thought that attraction had much to do with "bad" or "nice"....and I agree that "anger besotted" M or F are not getting far with their "entitlement" attitudes..

(BTW, you have great knees!)

 lazythekid

Joined: 6/7/2005
Msg: 165
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:26:57 AM
wow , thats as deep and clear as a mud puddle , not that i can't understand what you are saying , but i don't think its clear thinking , i could be wrong , excuse me if i am , i mean that sincerally
 kap10cavy1963

Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 166
why do I (+ most women) love assholes??
Posted: 9/3/2006 8:31:06 AM

Women are turned-on by an Alpha type

There ya go, says it all. A leader, not a doormat.
 musicalife

Joined: 4/30/2006
Msg: 167
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:33:35 AM
I think it is really about the "real" man. He is a good blend of responsibility, stability (financially and emotionally), romanticism, mischief and adventurism, and great in bed. I'm sure I missed a few but you get the point.

A "bad boy" is a wanna be "real man" who has the mischievious/adventurous side but falls short in the romantic and responsibility department which is why he usually doesn't last. We all know about the overly "nice guy". I don't have to go into that nauseous topic.

I strive for the "real man" status who is mischievious/fun/adventurous/romantic and also have all my sh*t together in other areas of my life.

Indigo Rose, I am not pure "bad boy" but I got the "beddy-bye" thing down very nicely
 Indigo Rose

Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 168
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:55:44 AM
Yep I see you have some really nice "equipment"

Hey men are attracted to bad girls... female assholes if you will! Woman that take advantage of your big heart and big wallet. Pornographers have empires because men like bad girls.Ha!




It's a fact that the majority of women will do anything for what they perceive as the dominant male.
 feeltrapped

Joined: 8/26/2006
Msg: 169
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Posted: 9/3/2006 8:59:54 AM
Hey I have been in the same boat.Time and time again.It took a while but I have finally learned my lesson.If a guy treats you like S***it will only get worse if you go back to him.Believe me,been there done that.The best thing to do is move on,forget about the A*****e and dont look back.If you choose to think about him any way ,think about how badly he treated you and that you dont deserve it.It will get easier in time.Good things come to those who wait so take time for yourself and learn to recognize the "red flags" that so many losers display without knowing it. When you feel that something is not right about a man (like when he puts himself above you)......run for your life before you get too involved with him. Once you can identify the difference between a good one and a bad onenyou can weed out the bad ones.Good Luck
 MrGordonGecko

Joined: 6/29/2006
Msg: 170
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Posted: 9/3/2006 10:01:50 AM

It is a fact that many women can't tell the difference between put on machismo and violent bull puckey that is often a mask for a LACK of confidence...and real manhood.
I find this whole theory about women dating ***holes (yours, and the rest of the world's) to be completely false. I think a lot of "nice" guys have made this up to make themselves feel better about the fact that they don't have dates,
that the women they know are in relationships with BAD BOYS, and not with them.
There's a whole shitload of guys who describe themselves as 'nice'...yet stomp through life with a big ole chip on their shoulder, spitting poison about how all those horrible women have the gall to deny them the love they're owed by virtue of their anger besotted "niceness"... damn it.


No what men are going through makes perfect sense to me.

If you are too "nice" or giving to another person in life, under any context, odds are you will get taken for granted. That's just human nature.

The best way to handle women, honestly, is to treat them good half the time and like garbage the other half. It's enough to keep them in line, but also enough to keep them staying. Over time, I find this is pretty much the only way for a guy to keep a relationship level.

It's the standard warning from fathers to their sons "Don't treat her too good too fast"

But it is very very hard for some guys to treat their women like crap half the time. People are not hardwired that way naturally, well not most. Some men get there after bad experiences and a select few just naturally do it as a matter of course in their personalities. Many have to push past everything that women, society and the mainstream media is telling them about how to treat a woman.

Well guys, women, society and the mainstream media tells you to treat her like a princess because they want you buying shit. Flowers, diamonds, nice dinners, etc etc. Of course they want you to pamper her, they make more money that way. They don't care if you are happy or not. But treating her like a princess too fast and too intensely is the surest way to have her treat you like shit the rest of your relationship.

But a.ssholes? Well those kind of men don't care what women want. They don't cater to their needs. And the women love it. They love it because they want to know why, unlike all the other nice guys who cough up all the attention and money, that this one guy, just doesn't care about them. Women can't handle that, especially if the guy has his shit together, he's nice looking and has some cash. Why doesn't he want her? What's so wrong with her that he doesn't want her? Well to answer that question, she's willing to smoke his meat pipe to find out. So it's not really about the a.sshole, it's about the woman and her image of self worth at stake.

So either way guys, to women, whether you are nice or a jerk, it all boils back to what's in it for the women. The mistake guys make are thinking they are part of the equation at all. A.ssholes, or whatever women want to call them, have wised up. They use women's own narcissitic behavior against them to get what they want - Sex.

Guys, treat them good half the time and like garbage the other half. The better looking the woman, the more you treat her like garbage in the beginning. Remember not all a.ssholes want to be a.ssholes, but it's the way of the world and how the dating world really shakes out. If you guys want to get laid, sometimes you have to take the princess, throw her out of the carriage and let her go facedown in the mud.
 CadeTheFireBreather

Joined: 12/12/2005
Msg: 171
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Posted: 9/3/2006 10:06:07 AM
Because nice guys are boring
 kap10cavy1963

Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 172
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Posted: 9/3/2006 10:37:57 AM

It's a fact that the majority of women will do anything for what they perceive as the dominant male.

Now where did I put the leather straps, dog collar and handcuffs?
 Indigo Rose

Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 173
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Posted: 9/3/2006 11:24:41 AM
Mister Gecko your such a funny boy thanks for the smile!
The best way to handle women, honestly, is to treat them good half the time and like garbage the other half. It's enough to keep them in line, but also enough to keep them staying. Over time, I find this is pretty much the only way for a guy to keep a relationship level.



Here's what keeps MY relationship level:

My man must know who he is and then gently, but very firmly be able to lead.That's your job!
I can't bear to be yelled at nor will I tolerate being treated badly... I will turn and leave or bite your ass then leave ,but a man who speaks softly, no matter what he is saying to me, will always hold my attention. I may not obey!! (smile) But I will listen! A man with quiet authority is a rare man indeed. This is someone who is confident in himself and has no need to bully, threaten, or "treat a woman like garbage" The anti-***hole so to speak!
 bucsgirl

Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 174
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Posted: 9/3/2006 11:31:30 AM
HAHA Indie was reading my mind, I was thinking the exact same thing. Wonder how this works out for the Gecko.... Men who treat women like garbage attract women who don't think much of themselves. The duality of trying to be a prince half the time and a jerk the other half just doesn't work, it's another one of those games that has all losers and no winners.
 TheBigID

Joined: 8/7/2006
Msg: 175
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Posted: 9/3/2006 11:49:12 AM
I like Gecko's idea. Confuse them to the point where they don't know what's going on. Good call.
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