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Posted: 9/11/2009 7:11:10 PM | here is an email I got from one of my guy friends. (BTW, I did not grow up in the US culture)
American men have options. American women do not. So the American women huff and puff, and scowl at the incoming foreign brides who don't demand the feminazi equality bullshit. You WISH American men didn't have choices. You're like a labor union that's pissed off because the company is hiring non-union employees.
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American men have two options: 1. Sport**** free American ****dolls forever. 2. Settle down with a foreign girl who has no expectations.
American women also have several options: 1. Be a free ****doll. (That's not a bad option by the way. More and more women embrace it. I say produce more "Sex and the City"-like shows and accelerate the trend. It certainly beats the other options.) 2. Live alone with 10 cats. 3. Single mother in permanent poverty.
What American women think about it is not relevant. It's just supply and demand. American women are still desperately trying to sell their shit sandwich, but the gig is up.
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You fat, whiny feminist ****es with your senses of entitlement have priced yourselves out of the market. American men want and can get Latinas, Asians, and East European women with beautiful bodies who take care of themselves and now how to treat a man. Get used to seeing white men pick these women over white American women. It is already happening and the trend will escalate.
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Lots of American women **** about American men dating foreigners. You want to know why? Because YOU SUCK. You are a pain in the ass. Period. Foreign women are easy to deal with. Having dated Europeans and Latina's, they are infinitely easier to deal with than American women. They just accept you for being a man. I hear lots of women say foreign women are pushovers - its the furthest thing from the truth. Particularly the Italians and the Latina's - they will fight with you and are very vocal. They just don't have all this bullshit that you carry around with you.
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American women have so many privileges, demands and rights that smart men can no longer afford to marry them. You fat American women who think you should be treated like princesses by rich handsome men have priced yourself out of the market.
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And it's American women who are upset that American men aren't marrying them. American men are perfectly content to use American women for easy sport ****ing. It's a product of American women's own feminist sexual revolution. Look at the #1 and #2 reason why American men are now avoiding marriage:
1. They can get sex without marriage more easily than in times past.
2. They can enjoy the benefits of having a wife by cohabiting rather than marrying.
Additionally, American guys have millions of foreign women who are dying to marry them. Lower divorce rate and no feminazi attitude.
So quite honestly, it doesn't matter if they're fat/skinny/ugly. It's not about what's fair. It's about what you can get. American men get what they want: easy casual sex from American women. Foreign brides with low divorce rates and no feminazi attitude. And American women get cats.
Deal with it.
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But guess what. Guys don't need to get married. Guys are perfectly happy ****ing & chucking women. That's what's great about American women. Free whores.
Women are the ones who are insecure and needy. Women are the ones who want companionship and emotional attachments. Women are the ones who are afraid of being alone and unloved forever.
Just go to the bookstore, and look at the magazines. An entire section for men: porn magazines. And entire section for women: weddings and brides magazines.
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After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those shitty, rude, mean, snotty American women.
Strange thing, cause for so long I've been quite a horndog, chasing women at all levels. I'm still totally attracted to foreign women...Indians, Orientals, Europeans.
But show me an American chick and I basically couldn't care less. Tell me how "beautiful" she is...doesn't matter. I suppose from an intellectual viewpoint I can see the beauty, but it's not any more attractive to me than...let's say...admiring a beautiful horse or a well-groomed cat. OK, admirable, but not sexy folks.
They say that sex is 90% mental...well, my mind has rejected American women completely.
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It's not a question of what's "OK" or not ok. Nobody gives a shit if it's fair or not.
The point is, women in their 30's, who are career oriented, are extremely UN-desirable to most men, as wives. Those women are getting more and more undesirable as the years pass...in fact by about 35 they are more or less out of the running completely.
Men, on the other hand, are at their peak of desirability, as potential husbands, at 35, and they remain at that peak for many years. A 40 year old guy who is a decent success can ALWAYS find a 30 yr old woman who would jump at the chance to grab him.
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99.9% of the single women in this country are not even marriageable.
Take away the women beyond the marriageable age (over 30).
Take away the fat women.
Take away the ugly women.
Take away the psycho Zoloft / Prozac women.
Take away the raped women.
Take away the women with STDs / HIV.
Take away the women who can't cook.
Take away the women who already have kids.
And you've eliminated 99.9% of the single women in this country.
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Statistics on educated women and marriage.
60+% of college graduates are now women and it'll be 66+% in 5 years.
Educated women only marry men who are at least as educated/successful as them.
A large percentage of educated men (25-50%) either do not want a family at all or will only marry uneducated/stay-home type women or foreign women, etc.
So out of 100 graduates we have 60 women and 40 men. 10-20 out of these 40 men will not marry any one of the 60 women. That means that there is 1 eligible man for every 2 women if you estimate very conservatively, or more realistically close to 1 man to 3 women. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/11/2009 8:48:39 PM | | Aussie chicks are absolutely the best. I remember this girl I met from New Zealand who had been in the U.S. for 6 months and she told me how in her country she was considered average but in the U.S. she was above average. I asked her why and she said it was because she had a personality! That says it all IMO. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/12/2009 6:31:04 AM | damassteel,
What do you mean by "less conflicted about gender issues?"
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To me- of course people from different countries or even different parts of the same country or different neighborhoods of the same city behave differently. Manhattan is a great example. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/12/2009 8:56:37 AM | | When I lived in Israel, people used to say to me that it's better to marry an Israeli girl in Israel, because the Israeli girls work their men hard, but they work hard. American girls in Israel don't work their men hard, or work hard. But when American girls see what Israeli girls get out of their men, they work their men hard like the Israeli girls, but they still don't work hard. I don't know if it's true. But that's what some people said to me. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/12/2009 9:16:41 AM | | People are different, and it is dependent to some extent on the way they are brought up, and it is true that some cultures have different ideals, so they will bring their children up with different outlooks on life, and those outlooks stick like superglue. Some people try to break the mould that was their cultural creation of identity. Some succeed, some don't, and some don't even bother trying because they know no different. We are all brought up with different moral codes and standards, they are inflicted on us and unless we can change our subconscious beliefs about how we 'should' and 'should not' behave we really are a slave to them. Slaves of morals and standards are in a box, and nothing can penetrate this box because it is deep rooted in their subconscious. JMHO :) | |
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| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/12/2009 9:23:57 AM |
here is an email I got from one of my guy friends. (BTW, I did not grow up in the US culture)
American men have options. American women do not. So the American women huff and puff, and scowl at the incoming foreign brides who don't demand the feminazi equality bullshit. You WISH American men didn't have choices. You're like a labor union that's pissed off because the company is hiring non-union employees.
Weird, I read your profile and it's far more demanding and rude than any American woman's profile I've ever looked at. I don't know about "feminazis" but you sound like a regular Nazi in your demands of men. Some cognitive dissonance here, eh? | |
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| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/12/2009 2:02:58 PM | All women are different. Some women are better than others, depending on who you ask.
Since I don't date men, I will guess that they are the same. How did this get turned into a woman/man bashing thread? There sure are a lot of bitter people here on POF. I bet there grade school report cards said: They don't play well with others. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2009 6:32:13 PM | RE Msg: 29 by Luciana9:
Wow! A lot of info!
I'd just like to add a few things to that:
1) Most women tend to marry "up", from almost every culture. But what is different about Western women, is that THEY DON'T NOTICE ANY MEN WHO DON'T FIT INTO THEIR CRITERIA!
If you read the forums, or speak to any Western women, they'll frequently say that they don't know any "good" men. Men are very quick to point out there are plenty of good men around. But these women are simply not even noticing they exist, and when they are introduced to those men, treat them like they don't exist, or at best, like an asexual friend. So they take those men out of the equation.
But what is also important, is that feminism has fought for equal pay for women, and continues to fight for that, to this day. So women in countries with feminism, women are more and more "equal" with men, and so, there are less and less men who they can marry "up" with, and they tend to ignore the rest, as if they don't exist. So that wipes out most of the men they want to marry.
2) Western men just want a woman who looks good, and who will pull her fair share of the income and/or the housework. Generally, people in developing countries have far better diets, and do a lot more exercise, and that makes them generally much healthier, to the extent that doctors from the Mayo Clinic found that poor beggars in India were far healthier than rich Americans. Generally, healthier people tend to be much better-looking, and look much younger, and tend to stay that way for many years. In addition, because they are used to working hard anyway, they tend to have no problem in doing their fair share of work and housework.
But even with all that, it's really hard to do your job well in the West, if you lack confidence, and it's really hard to stay confident when you're being told you're sh*t every day. So even if a woman is very good-looking, and very hard-working, men will eventually leave women who insult them regularly. I even know some men who've told me that they were living with a woman who looked like a model even after she'd had kids, and they STILL left her, rather than stay.
3) Right now, it's considered perfectly acceptable in the West, for women to run their men down, and lots do, all the time. You can see it all the time in the media, with slogans like "women need a man like fish need a bicycle", and "all men are potential rapists", and on TV, where men are portrayed as slovenly idiots who can never do anything right. But it's far, far worse in the home. So in the end, men are choosing foreign women, partially for their better looks, and partially for their greater willingness to work hard, but mostly because they don't b*tch at their men every day and night.
If Western women want to get married, all they need to do, is to look at statistics. They've done studies on who gets into relationships. They found the men most likely to have a new relationship were men who were outgoing. But the women who were most likely to get a new relationship, were agreeable.
That's right, girls. If you want a man, then all you need to do is to be "agreeable". You don't need to agree to do a man's every whim. But you do need to follow up with: "Yes, I'd love to do that, and once I've put the kids to bed, I'll see if we have the time before we go to bed." It's that simple. You need to learn to say "Yes" a bit more often, and "No", a bit less. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2009 9:30:31 PM | I have seen inclass tests made at the Social Sciences courses about relationships and family.
Over 80 % of the women first criteria was income in selecting a man. For men that criteria was the last one. For men mattered the look and who you are as a person.
Now, many many times through the years I had and have seen women say making 50 K/year looking for man making 75 K and above, it almost always "above".
Now how much of that "above" the economy can bare ? You girls find out.
Personally I am not looking for a women who makes more money because she makes you a LOSER. Its like you have to make more just for her sake, not because that is what you want.
In economies where men don't give a s.h.i.t about their money as much as in the west women never can make it by themselves.
Women arrogance comes from the fact that they have lots of mid-management and office positions available and paper-work generating jobs giving them also false sense of who they are at work. I have at my job lots of women always talking in meetings...they "talk discussions" because they can fill in a spreadsheet and call you for "updates" and ask you how things are in reality and hide behind words... that's what they know how to do....but they get EGO out of it....and they tend to feel "precious"....and you have to win their aggressive way of being....which is lights years away of what a man would want.
Sure there are lots of women professionals able to do very good things and they deserve their money most likely...but still they look down on you if you make less or even a little bit more then they do...still crap for them. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2009 9:37:26 PM |
Weird, I read your profile and it's far more demanding and rude than any American woman's profile I've ever looked at. I don't know about "feminazis" but you sound like a regular Nazi in your demands of men. Some cognitive dissonance here, eh?
I read it too and you're very wrong. Here is what people were talking about cultural perspective, where you don't understand that you have a basic premise from which you see things, and people from other countries have a different one, so blue looks a different colour to them.
American women firstly outline income requirements by allegory in spite of themselves. Seeking someone who is financially stable or likes to travel, has what amounts to expensive hobbies, she likes shopping as a pastime, etc.
They say nothing about their personality, they list a bunch of interests like going out with friends, shopping, watching movies, but a fish likes these things too. That leaves only physical appearance to be attracted to and the bar is pretty low on that, most aren't very good looking, they don't look after themselves and charisma contributes to appearance so they lose on that too.
Finally the guy they are interested in will make them laugh, be unflinchingly devoted to them, won't be a player, doesn't have to have money (suffixed with a 'but') and must be a great guy, etc. There's just too many things wrong with this to mention but I will mention the most obvious, this describes no more than passing behaviour anyone can act out and says nothing about personality. Sleazebags and liars apply here. So on top of everything else American women are social and political morons and nothing is more annoying than a self centred moron standing around tapping her feet over the way you act when she doesn't even know who you are and is arrogant enough to think she does by how you satisfy her as a measure.
See this is a very demanding attitude.
The profile you're talking about gives substantive requirements, like religious and political views and not where you just say on a current affairs program, "Oh yes I have these views" but where you actually practise them. You don't say you're anti-gun lobbyist, you refuse to own one ever and prefer not to associate with those who do. She doesn't want someone with a military/police/institutional background and fair enough, because that says substantive things about personality and tendencies too, which strike a chord with some and not others. She doesn't want someone who takes drugs of any sort, no alcohol, no smoking, no zaloft, nothing whatsoever and fair enough, this again points to a very specific and practicable outlook. It says something you just can't fake.
And that's the real key here and why it is not actually demanding at all. Her requirements are about personality. The atypical American women date requirements I characterised above are 100% about salesmanship, social technique and financial accord and say nothing whatsoever about a personality.
See for example if this woman's date was actually what he said he was, he wouldn't have to try hard or think about how he acts at all. It would be a matter of course they'll get along, it's all in what he actually does with his life anyway to begin with.
But with the other what you get is a woman who stands around examining every little thing you do and how you act, without knowing the slightest thing about you. And expects this great relationship. That's being demanding. And frankly ignorant and self centred in the extreme.
So not only is she spectacular looking and plainly going places with her life at a young 25, genuinely confident (instead of arrogant), but she's also intelligent in the way that actually displays political and social awareness instead of lists out the bullcrap listed in tabloid dating advice about how to form a relationship, and then taps her feet expecting the desired response and complaining about "all men" when she obviously isn't capable of according it with her personal development.
I put it to you that in fact you are rude but call it normal, and her normal you are calling rude, but the truth is you are both simply different, some people prefer people like you and others prefer people like her and can't stand people like you and that's fair enough, the world does not work to your measures of right and wrong. Each has their own thankyou, it's why we even have politics and you have to be a complete moron to think there is one rule for all when it comes to outlook, that's called totalitarianism. Are you that blind? Oh excuse me, you're American. And very. | |
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Posted: 9/13/2009 12:56:12 AM | Through my experience defiantly a big resounding YES.
Absolutely every women is an individual but culturally and spiritually speaking women of different cultures, taking away the common threads, are very much different.
Outlook on life, expectations, temper, social etiquette, relationship outlook are defiantly different.
I find Latina and Middle eastern women very similar –  
I’ll go a step further, through my experience I have found that where women are friendly, outgoing, sociable and relationship orientated men are complete opposites, and where the men have the mentioned qualities the women are the exact opposites. Just what I have seen and experienced. | |
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Posted: 9/13/2009 3:29:24 AM | If I didn't live in the azz end of nowhere I would be talking to foreign women.
In my opinion, American women are the worst people on the face of the planet to form lasting relationships.
Just my .02.
Interestingly enough, it seems to be the concensus too. | |
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Posted: 9/13/2009 7:00:12 AM | I lived and worked in Russia for year, and was married to a Russian woman for five years in America. You guys who think women in America have problems have never spent anytime being involved with one of those Slavic beauties. Russia is a brutal place for most of it's inhabitants. The people who live there resemble Americans who grow up in alcoholic or abusive homes. They are damaged. It is impossible not to be affected by living there. I was once fascinated and excited by the place, but it takes time to learn the truth. Speaking generally:
There are good people there, but the national female obsession is to find a well off westerner to marry. They do not think like most of us. Actually the way they think was beyond my comprehension for a long time. On the surface, they are warm, friendly and seemingly very interested. But their interest is almost always based on what you can provide them. I have met hundreds of Russian women and I will summarize my experience by saying that most of them are users/takers. They have an opportunistic mentality which can kick in at any time. What this means is that you can't ever really trust her because she is mercenary and faithless. If you go through some hard times, she is history, and will use her looks and immorality to go on the next more prosperous guy. The divorce rate in Russia is about 70%, and women hop like fleas from man to man in search of financial security. Many of the singles ads in Russia(in Russian) on the internet specify financial support which means sex for money. This is getting too long so this is what I observed during my experiences with Eastern European women:
Kindness is confused with weakness
The end justifies the means
It is acceptable to rip off a man
Lying and convoluted logic are ok if it will help me get what I want
A man without money is like a man without a penis
Give me an American woman any day of the week! | |
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Posted: 9/13/2009 8:56:08 AM | @ snowboardchick
Got a few for sale if you want one (houses not woman - although believe gypsy population still sell their daughters!) -
how disrespectful to say such a thing! stupid!
since I conclude u dont belong to the race of Gypsy and do not know any of their rules of living AND make such racist comments! I would appreciate u keep this to urself!
I am shocked and disgusted!
as of it wasnt enough to die in the gaschamber and being sold as slaves..now u come along and play expert on Gypsy living - I sure feel like vomiting! | |
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