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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 10:29:18 AM | atlantean; This describes my five year long relationship with a Russian woman to a "T". It was exactly as you described. And I was indeed a fool to have let it go on as long as it did. By the time I pulled my head out of my a$$, I was almost ruined financially. While the Ruskies are no longer an option for me owing to hard experience, American women still simply do not attract me for most of the reasons previously stated by other posters. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 3:01:39 PM | Hell, women from different BLOCKS behave differently. If you mean, is there a place where women all act like men, and not at all like women, then no. There's a wide range of behaviors that all people exhibit, and though culture and circumstances will have their effects, there is always a general similarity. There are, also, places where women are not ALLOWED to behave in an open and friendly manner in public, but the rest of their behaviors are still what we're used to. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 3:35:14 PM | | My two business partners are American born and raised (North East if that makes any difference). (I am Canadian). They are much more alike to eachother in attitude than either is to me. They are conservative and uneasy with change. Their idea of fun/humour is pretty restricted and subject to "what others will think". I've often wondered if our differences were due to origin. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 4:43:14 PM | Damassteel, I second that opinion. I too don't even care to be around American women. American women have very little feminine charm and are all mouth and me, me, me. When you read American womans profile, 90% say "I'm looking for a man who will treat me like a woman". They want to project masculine strength and image, yet expect the advantages of being a woman as well....what a joke! The first thing out of their mouth is how independent they are, and don't need a man....but, date her a few times and she will impose on you to fix every broke down piece of crap she owns.....don't need a man my ass! I think if American women were half a smart as they think they are, they would figure out something very simple. Realize their limitations as women and act accordingly....they wouldn't have to insist on being treated like a woman, it would be automatic for a man. Challenge us with how strong, smart and tough you think you are, I for one, will step out of your way so you can prove it. I find it comical that when they are confronted with some of their equality crap....they immediately go for the "but I'm a woman" excuse. All mouth, and nothing but mouth. The truth is, they want and demand the advantages of both genders, but none of the disadvantages of either. Foreign women get my vote by a huge margin. Quite frankly, I find foreign women to be far more intelligent, talented and cultured. Most of them can play a musical intrument, are artistic and have hobbies. Most of our women can only play the ATM machine and read romance novels. American women  | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 5:23:01 PM | I think people (men as well as women) from different countries act differently reflecting the different cultures in which they were raised. This can lead to misunderstandings as we misinterpret behaviour that fits some other cultural norm.
American men want and can get Latinas, Asians, and East European women with beautiful bodies who take care of themselves and now how to treat a man. Get used to seeing white men pick these women over white American women. It is already happening and the trend will escalate. A friend of mine who worked for a while in Asia married an Asian lady. He believed that Asian women treated men well but he was soon disillusioned. Although she was working when he met her she never worked after they married because it was her husband's job to support her. He also had to support her family back in Asia as she was no longer working to support them. And, even though she wasn't working, she had to have a cleaner come in to do the basic housework because she didn't expect to have to do those sort of menial jobs. He believes she only married him for his money - she thought he was rich because he earned a lot more than people in Asia. So good luck to you all if you think you will do better with a foreign wife.
I'm horrified at the way some of the participants in the forums seem to regard American women (and not because it reflects on me - I'm English). It makes me very glad I am English and dating English men not Americans. But perhaps some of the embittered habitues of the forums aren't typical of American men either. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 6:07:21 PM | I stand by what I’ve said about different cultures in my previous post on this thread. Actually, it’s not as bad here in Australia as I’m reading about the situation in the USA, my experience is that woman in Australia are at most quite normal, caring and make good partners, but hey – they say that Australia is some 9 years behind the US when it comes to social trends, shyt I’d better find someone before the 9 years is up  | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 6:37:07 PM | | Well Auntemily, just maybe us American men have a little more experience with American women than you do.....is that possible? Assuming you are straight, my guess is your experience is none. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 6:55:23 PM | A lot of men fall for the damsel in distress. I would like each man that thinks that women from other countries are more feminine and pure to do a search on child prostitution and female prostituton with the nationality of your choice. Most of you will find that those things are very common and socially accepted outside of the borders of the US. It goes on here too! Im not trying to make it seem that foreign women are bad, what im trying to say is that most of your opinions thrive off of stereotypes!
When I hear American men talk about foreign women it is always with a gleam in their eye, "They clean, cook, work, dont talk back." I think most American men are in awe of a fantasy.
We are all human beings, when dating someone of a different culture that has been sheltered(if that is the case). Try to look at it as a child, does not a child changes when that child grows. So, maybe you will be crossing your fingers and hoping that your dream is not shattered, when options are presented to the sheltered. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 7:19:39 PM | jbubble
We are all human beings, when dating someone of a different culture that has been sheltered(if that is the case). Try to look at it as a child, does not a child changes when that child grows. So, maybe you will be crossing your fingers and hoping that your dream is not shattered, when options are presented to the sheltered.
I’ve got to laugh when I hear such statements coming from the US. Sorry to burst your bubble but most countries, nations, cultures celebrate a thousand years of existence or more, as far as “sheltered” most European nations are much more liberal than the US, for that matter so are the south Americans. I don’t think prostitution is a good guide to measure morality of the women, I’d be more inclined to look at it as a marketable product as it is, perhaps the clientele (men) find these “foreign” women more attractive, seductive and perhaps they are, hey no good selling something that doesn’t sell. Sure there exists a slave trade but let’s look at things in perspective.
Not everyone is jumping through hoops to get the green card, but yes as Eddie Murphy portrayed his new bride umfufu in his series RAW umfufu was not ruined by “options” as you put it but by the well meaning American women – Eddie I want half................... | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 7:42:15 PM | I grew up in Eastern Europe but not Russia. (I lived for 27 years in my homeland) The people from Russia have the big country mentality/ego beside other issues they have. In small eastern european countries females are and can be different. Of course in a poorer country women will look for resources and of course super beauties will try to marry the money thats valid almost everywhere on the Planet.
The difference comes in at the average looking women, those ones are friendlier. There are personality differences between individuals but still you can talk with them. Blind dates? No problem. At the first call an eastern european woman will ask you to meet face to face and if don't like each other big deal, move on no questions asked. People over there are not scared of each other..another difference.
The other difference is that is easy to recognize if a women is looking just for money or exagerating in demands, easy to filter. If you BS a lot, people will notice and will point finger to you sooner or later (here? you can hide..almost no one knows anyone anyways) and you can be locked out from more and more circles ."the world is small over there lots of people know each other people are more socializing"...you have to be careful and soon you can run out of options. Again I am not talking about Russia here.
There are a few women I met over the Internet from my country and I made lots of women friends over the years...and guess what no one wanted to come to Canada or US and take any advantage....NO, they asked me that I go back. One of them paid a plain ticket last Christmas for me to go and stay 2 weeks with her...and I did not ask her. And guess what ? She is over 8 on the 1 to 10 scale...and she makes much less then american/canadian women. (of course I payed the ticket after I had to travel..she is poor but with a great heart and she saved the money for almost a year) Are you guys treated the same way by your women ? Does not seem to be...not even at the exception level. Here ? No women even considered me for a date as soon as I told her I am not canadian or american born. No, how could an american/canadian women tell her other girlfriends she has "just" someone from over sees ? That would be very low for them....almost an insult.
That is the difference..I can talk over Yahoo or over the phone to women from my country no problem even if its 9.000 km distance, but I cannot talk to a canadian women in the same city I am in any way. Thats how big the firewall is. This says a lot about the differences. Do I want them ? Thx, but no thx. You guys deal with them, its all yours...packaged in boxes with red laces. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 8:55:01 PM | | After being a diamond broker and jewelry store owner for twenty years, I've had the displeasure of seeing a side of American women that most people don't get to whitness. In those years, I've done business with many nationalities, including have to special make jewelry in 22-24 ct. for the far East customers. The only ones that ever called me on the sly about what they could get back for their diamond engagement ring (should things not work out)...were American women. They also called me on the sly wanting my help to manipulate their boyfriends into spending more on a bigger diamond. Needless to say, I refused and lost business because of these underhanded request. It saddened me to watch how these women manipulated their fiances (in my presents) into debt they couldn't afford.....not to mention how my own darling little wife wanted to make continious raids on the stores inventory. It just wasn't acceptable for there to be a diamond in the vault of a higher quality or larger size than hers.... sentimental value meant nothing. These young American girls are a real trip, They actually take pride in walking up to you and stating "I'm a b-i-t-c-h and damn proud of it".....no doubt influenced by dear mommy. Let's see what we have on TV these days, We've got Bridezilla, Hollywood house wives, Daddys girls and a few others to set the example for female behavior. As a man, You couldn't pay me enough money to come on public television and disgrace my gender or fellow man in such a fashion. Obviously, American women don't give it a second though......gimedamoney! As far as I'm concerned, you've worked long and hard for your reputation......now enjoy the fruits of your labor. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 9:21:22 PM | I have dated women all over the world and the best for me are ... 1. Chinese but from the city of Chengdu. 2. Santiago, Chile and 3. San Jose, Costa Rica. All beaufitul and feminine which are the qualities I enjoy most. The problem with most American women today is that after years of wanting to be equal with men, now that they are, they are not treated as the women they once were and are so pissed that they take it out on all men. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 10:16:03 PM |
Warning - I think I'm going to shatter some men's fantasies
I'm foreign - and I talk back!!! ;-)
And that's why you're not happily married and you're on this website! | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/13/2009 10:25:24 PM | of course they do.especially if your talking about drastically different countries like africa and canada. or russia and canada and things like that in each country people are born with different way of living.different ideas and stuff. its not the same mentality at all. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/14/2009 12:00:50 AM |
Warning - I think I'm going to shatter some men's fantasies
I'm foreign - and I talk back!!! ;-)
OMG - see what the western way of life has done to you
nothing wrong with talking back, men (well speaking for my self) like a lively women, this is a positive. Who wants to be with a statue anyway. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/14/2009 12:13:38 AM | ^^^^ It's obvious she didn't just get off the boat. Notice how she just had to tell us that?.....A very American woman trait. Well, I hope that little cutie doesn't allow our women to lead her into the autumn years with a big ego and a house full of cats. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/14/2009 12:33:27 AM | The world is full of misconceptions and stereo types. I have been translating emails, phone calls and letters for Russian Brides for over a decade; they are all 'eager' to get to the US, or out of where they are living (trend is actually starting to show alot are trying to go to Italy) For the past 10 years I have had 5-8 new clients per month, every month looking for Russian wives.... to date, I know of only 4 couples that are still married. You do the math. Best way to get and keep a Russian wife? Learn the language, hire one with a ex-pat company, and move to Russia. :)
your results may vary, but the stats dont play well to its favor. He nyxa, He nepa. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/14/2009 1:42:44 AM |
Well Auntemily, just maybe us American men have a little more experience with American women than you do.....is that possible? Assuming you are straight, my guess is your experience is none. Just because I don't date women doesn't mean I don't know any. But even if I didn't I'd be pretty sceptical about the dismissal of a whole nation of women. And yes, I do know I told a story about an Asian woman. But that doesn't mean I think all Asian women are like that - some are lovely. It's just that people should be careful with the idea that foreign women are necessarily better because I've heard some horror stories about Asian and Eastern European wives. Perhaps it is something about the motivation of women who go out of their way to marry out of their own culture. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/14/2009 1:54:41 AM | ^^^^^^ I think that the “Russian Wife” market is well known with all it’s faults. Anyway to look at it realistically, the Russian Wife “export” market does not represent the “foreign” ladies as a whole, rather a very small segment if at all, having said that it doesn’t really represent the Russian Woman either. It is an export market and should be viewed as such.
The title of the thread is “do woman from different countries act differently” well perhaps as far as the Russian wife export market and the US is concerned, perhaps not this is why they are targeting the US market there seems to be a lot of similarities – the men in the US could perhaps answer this more clearly.
You say you have been translating letters, emails and phone calls, well just think about it a little and you will realise what the market is intended for. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/14/2009 2:59:42 AM | auntemily, maybe you're just not getting the point. I've heard the same horror stories and so has every man here. We weren't born yesterday and we already know why they would marry out of there own culture. If our women have American men to this point of desperation.....That's the point here! Personally, I wouldn't consider either option. Remaining a bachelor works by far the best for me. I don't know if this is going to make sense to you or not, but here are my feeling as a man. Are you as a woman attracked to a wimpy, sissy, mommas boy? If you are a feminine woman, I would expect not. Maybe that's why the term "opposite sex" makes sense...."opposite" being the operative word here. Would it therefore be logical that a masculine man be attracted to a feminine woman? Is it just possible that the more masculine a man is, the more feminine he likes his woman? We've adjusted to short hair, pants, poor cooking ...if any, business ambition, tattoos, foul mouths, sexual aggression and many other masculine traits, but when you throw in the attitude, smart mouth, a male ego, greed and zero concern for what appeals to man, then it's all gone as far as I'm concerned. The only difference between them and my fishing buddy is lumps on the chest and a wet spot. At least with my fishing buddy, I have some idea of what color his hair might be the next time I see him. In case you're still not understanding me, That's the equivalent to you getting wet panties over Richard Simmons or Boy George. If you still don't get it, I understand, because American women sure as hell don't. | |
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| do women from different countries act differently Posted: 9/14/2009 5:51:42 AM | Well, it's always nice to paint everyone with the same brush, isn't it? Makes life simple for the simple, I guess. Personally, I've always been about treating everyone like an individual and judging them based on their individual merits, but I'm kinda foreign, so probably some sort of anomaly.
I have to say, even though I grew up in this country, I don't have a huge amount of experience with American women, since most of my female friends are foreign. And woe to the man who judges them based on their country of origin! My German mother was very averse to pushy and demanding women, but that was because her mother was that way, and my mom never liked it, so the way she raised me and my sister had more to do with her individual experience than her culture, most likely.
Actually, the fact that Varinia "talks back" has nothing to do with her being Americanized, or single, either. She actually strikes me as being pretty German in the way she communicates. If you're looking for meek and submissive, you probably shouldn't pin your hopes on German women, generally.
ALL American women aren't evil and mean, and neither are all foreign women paragons of virtue and femininity. You'd think most reasonable adults could figure this out. I've had a lot of experience with men from all over the world, mostly as friends, and based on those experiences, I have to state a pretty strong preference for American men (the good ones, at least!). That doesn't mean that I think ALL American men are wonderful, and neither do I think ALL foreign men aren't great. Good people can be found anywhere in the world.
But it's apparently so much more fun to generalize, stereotype, and write off everyone who belongs in a certain group. It's also so much simpler. On the down side, if the perfect person for you belongs to a group you've already ruled out, you probably deserve to be alone, or jump from one inadequate relationship to another. And as usual, those who are full of the most vitriolic condemnation have the least to bring to the table. Typical. | |
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