|
|
|
|
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 7:12:39 AM | Auntemily, brightestblue, et al;
I don't require a submissive, deferential,pushover of a woman. what I require is a woman who loves and appreciates Masculinity. I am a man. I need a woman who honors and respects my masculinity just as I honor and respect her femininity. I'm doing just fine with that now that I've found a German woman for a partner. She's educated (Phd, Bio)and productive and is without all of the toxic attitude we've been discussing on this thread and after more than two years the relationship thrives.
I've got a business partner who's a Russian guy and a jeweler. The same words that came out of Mt. lover are very same remarks I've heard from him on several occasions concerning American women and diamond sales.
I don't doubt that there are many American women who have their heads on straight, but a growing number of men find the odds of finding one just too daunting and have decided to seek partners where they feel they have a much better shot at discovering women they can be satisfied with. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 7:14:14 AM | | Of course you can't say ALL of anything is the same. However, if you took 100 various women each from lets say the U.S., England, Canada and Australia, I guarantee you the ones that you would find the least interesting and appealing would be the ones from the U.S. I've travelled a great deal and spent time in many different countries and I think that the foreign women, in general, are far more likeable. Just my opinion. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 7:39:39 AM | of course they are differnet...different customs and ways
in Eruope...being naked is normal...also in middle east they are more confined
i believe in north america...we need to learn what family is and relationships
people give up on relationships
and being materialistic and getting children involved in 3 or 4 activites is important
what about family time? that needs to come back
and families need to go to church
too much crime
parents are too busy doing their own thing
and being selfish | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 7:48:05 AM |
I'm doing just fine with that now that I've found a German woman for a partner. She's educated (Phd, Bio)and productive and is without all of the toxic attitude we've been discussing on this thread and after more than two years the relationship thrives.
I think there is definitely less acrimony between genders in Germany, and probably some other European countries as well. But I think that part of that is because German men have in general, taken the new role of women with a lot less defensiveness and hostility than American men have. Nothing happens in a vacuum- American women didn't go "bad" all on their own.
Based on my own experiences in business, I've seen a lot of women become aggressive and hostile toward men, as a reaction to a lot of condescension and misogyny. I'm not saying that it's justifiable, but I don't think men can pretend they have no responsibility for anything negative that's gone on.
In fact, so many men point towards laws favoring women, especially in the divorce courts as an example of an imbalance that breeds a lot of anger, especially among men who have been hard done by. While I agree that some of those laws are ridiculous, outdated, and draconian and better balance has to be achieved, the fact remains that men remain dominant in our legal system and governing bodies, and the system that puts men at a disadvantage (in some cases-my sister-in-law is in the process of being royally screwed during her divorce because she brought substantial assets to the marriage) was implemented, and is still largely controlled by men. I guess you can argue that those men were pressured, intimidated, whatever, by women and their interests, but we are each still ultimately responsible for our actions.
If the problem with feminism in this country really is as big as many claim it is, I don't think it can realistically be pinned on women alone. Looking at countries where things seem to have gone more smoothly, it seems to be because BOTH men and women stepped up and tried to make it work, rather than resenting the bejeezus out of the opposite sex, and making each others' life hell in the process.
Maybe I'm horribly naive (why do I keep saying that in every other post? lol), but I hate to see this endless battle of the sexes. Men are not the enemy, and neither are women. We need each other and are meant to be together. Why not approach each other with a bit of respect and goodwill, instead of the endless resentment and suspicion? Nevermind- it's a rhetorical question.  | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 7:55:21 AM | A huge percentage of American women are selfish, flighty, insecure, needy and psychotic, and quite capable of concealing those traits during the dating phase
White 'career' American chicks are the bottom of the barrel marriage-wise.
Foreign women from South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia are at the top. Only guys who travel (in other words, guys who are successful and ambitious enough to travel a lot) find these. But they never, ever go back.
Foreign-born women living in the US are the next best. They get married early...they are highly sought-after by American guys for their wifely skills (hell, any women who has ANY ability to be a wife is better than your average American chick, who knows NOTHING about being a wife)
Bottom of the barrel---white American chicks. Yecch.
Here's a story: I knew a guy who was Hungarian (parents emigrated) who tried for 15 years to find a half-decent women to marry. He's a doctor, by the way. Finally after 8 psycho-weirdo US chicks, he went back to the 'old country' to find a wife. The people there were lining the women up for him to meet...he's a rich American guy...they are considered the best husbands in the world.
He found this lovely wife. She is a total gem, and he's happy as hell. 2 kids. Happily ever after. | |
|
| |
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 8:24:14 AM |
note to self, sell house and move to eastern Europe..... I've been laughing all morning reading the forums, thanks all.
What I have found traveling is people from other places are very different in many ways, even right here in the USA. I once lived at a small vacation resort where we got many visitor's from Pittsburgh. The women from there were very different from the locals where I was. I loved the Pittsburgh women.
Spending a lot of time in Asia I found the women there to be more jealous on average but more honest and attentive. I also dated a few Europeans. I found the French to be a little snobby, the Russian women seemed to have the world owes me attitude and the Austrian women seemed to be more wholesome. All in all most women seemed to be more genuine than the one's here in the US. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 9:15:17 AM | I've tried to stay out of this thread - until now lol.
The short answer to the question is: Of course, women, as well as men, from different countries act different.
The long: We all are the sum of our upbringings, part parents, part society around us, and part the character that we were born with. Throw all of that together and there are a ton of variations, that will also show commonalities in each culture.
But it's so easy to see the grass as greener on the other side. While I see a number of men talk bad about American women, I believe that those same men not only lump foreign women into ONE, but also look at things from a superficial perspective. Each trait that may be considered positive by one, also usually has a shadow side that is easily overlooked, when looking from the the outside in.
For example: The woman that is completely obedient and will always say 'yes, dear! You're right dear' is probably not going to voice her own opinion. The man will have to carry the responsibility for everything. He is never able to have a shoulder to lean on. He is never allowed to let go and just be. He will not be able to ever be weak in any way shape of form. He won't have a partner that he can discuss the choices with and brainstorm how to go on, if there are problems. While that may sound like nirvana for some men, ask a dominatrix/prostitute who her clients are, and they're mostly married men who have these traditional roles at home and who do this to have a moment when they don't have to carry the responsibility.
So, while it's easy to seemingly pick and choose the traits that we want in a partner, it's just as easy to overlook the drawbacks that come with it.
I was born and raised in Germany - 20 years - and I didn't grow up with these defined gender roles in business or dating. Girls and boys grew up knowing that at about 14 they'd have to decide what kind of apprenticeship they'd want to do when they're 16. And after school then we'd spend 2.5-3 years learning that trade. I don't know anyone that had this dream that they'd find a rich man and then didn't have to work. We had to make a major life decision at 14 and that was going to be the business we were in for the rest of our lives. So, us girls/women took that seriously and we were treated equal to the boys.
My parents didn't talk about women this and men that. If my dad helped my mom with her coat it was not because she was a woman, but because she only had 1 arm and there were just certain things that we assisted her with.
When it comes to dating, we didn't have 'dating'. I just met someone that I liked and he liked me and then we hung out and got to know each other as people. It wasn't about impressing each other, pretending to be a certain way. It was 'what you see is what you get' and if you liked it - great.
I wasn't evaluated by looks, but who I was as a person. German men don't compliment on looks, so it wasn't something that we took a lot into consideration when it comes to self-worth. I never thought of myself as pretty or ugly. I just was whoever I was. A compliment might come in the form of :'That's a great idea!' or 'I like the way you think!'.
So, coming here, where really the number one evaluation for a woman is her looks, has been really confusing. The things about me that I thought were good: I'm intelligent, I think out of the box, I'm extremely honest and ethical, have values and morals, look at things from the other person's perspective - those were things that were almost looked at as drawback, because the American guys that were attracted to my looks had certain ideas of what I'm like - and I didn't fit that stereotype.
So, my whole point is, what may look one way from the distance may not be exactly what you envision, because that same trait/characteristic may have a shadow side, that you're not even thinking about.
But overall, there are tremendous differences between men and women of different cultures. But I think it's age and exposure to other cultures that can make the difference. As we grow older many of us become more introspective and start looking at ourselves and are willing to change and adapt, become more aware and that's what makes us more alike. | |
|
| |
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 11:26:41 AM |
So, coming here, where really the number one evaluation for a woman is her looks, has been really confusing. The things about me that I thought were good: I'm intelligent, I think out of the box, I'm extremely honest and ethical, have values and morals, look at things from the other person's perspective - those were things that were almost looked at as drawback, because the American guys that were attracted to my looks had certain ideas of what I'm like - and I didn't fit that stereotype.
This is an excellent observation, and I had sort of the opposite experience, since I didn't live in Germany until my early twenties. Even though my German parents gave me plenty of validation for my personality, my morals, my work ethic and my intelligence, I was really accustomed to being judged primarily on my looks by young American guys. So, when German guys expressed appreciation for the complete "me," I was surprised, and a bit suspicious at first, thinking I was being played.
In general, I found male/female relationships to be much less complicated and fraught with tension. Part of that may simply be the German tendency for bluntness, and speaking plainly. There didn't seem to be a lot of the hinting and game-playing that seem to be a given in American dating.
The European attitudes toward sexuality are also much, much healthier than American ones, IMO. There just isn't all of the complicated baggage with archaic religious and social values conflicting with some liberated ideas. It's just natural, and easy to talk about. But that's a whole new can of worms- best not to go there, lest this thread turn into a 50-page monster!
The experience did help me mature, and clarify what I was looking for in a mate, so by the time I came back to the US, I had much higher standards. Fortunately, I found at least a few American men who were not as superficial as their peers, and who treated me as a complete person, and an equal human being. Some of that attitude seems to come with maturity for a lot of guys, I think. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 12:40:00 PM | So, when German guys expressed appreciation for the complete "me," I was surprised, and a bit suspicious at first, thinking I was being played.
To this day I haven't been able to get past the opposite thing. When someone's first comment to me is about looks, there's always this thought that that's just flattery and I'm being played, and I automatically assume that that's just another guy that wouldn't like me anyway, because all he wants is looks....... And I run | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 2:31:00 PM |
However, if you took 100 various women each from lets say the U.S., England, Canada and Australia, I guarantee you the ones that you would find the least interesting and appealing would be the ones from the U.S.
And does the same apply to men? | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 3:36:56 PM |
A huge percentage of American women are selfish, flighty, insecure, needy and psychotic, and quite capable of concealing those traits during the dating phase
Actually psychosis is not a "trait" it is far more serious. But please let us know how one conceals psychosis? Inquiring psychiatrists want to know.... | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 4:29:22 PM | | having traveled a fair bit in my life, i would have to say yes women from other culture act much differently, im not going to be to long winded in this post , i will say that american women are pretty lame, they have body issues, intimacy issues, feminine issues, and really expect the men to put up with there endless whining, im glad i am canadian | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 5:03:16 PM | It appears that most of the people on this post are on the same page.
I don’t think that we should concentrate on demonising, but yes we should be honest.
As I had mentioned I live in Australia and things aren’t as bad her as they seem to be in the US regarding the sexes or woman for that matter.
I believe that there is an inborn perhaps DNA or what ever with different cultures. I’ve mentioned Latina and Middle eastern woman as being somewhat more passionate, yes middle eastern girls are “sheltered” as some have mentioned but they are still high spirited and passionate, so I am of the opinion that it is more than just upbringing even though upbringing has quite a bit to do with it in more moderately tempered cultures.
What I am seeing is that the whole mating game is changing in Australia and is being more aligned with the US. We are exposed to just about every tv show from Dr. Phil to Opera to Jerry springer you name it, books have flooded in all the physic ups too from – you go girl, I’m a selfish bitch and proud of it and all the rest. All the dating procedures dating a mini army, phrases such as exclusive, non exclusive, emotionally available, emotionally unavailable hey there is a whole new language.
Admittedly, I have not experienced too much of this (thank God) but it is out there.
So what am I saying – with all this hunger to know what is going on, hunger to learn how not to be screwed, hunger to know what is going to happen , the I am the most important person in the world and the world was created for me, all of this has become an analysis to paralysis. People have stopped being themselves and have become their own Sigmund Freud – Und vat are you tinking my little limpchen, aha you are too generous you hev de little girl calling from inside vonting to get out.
People due to all the media, print on how to do this and that have forgotten how to be human and themselves, they have become walking encyclopaedias on relationships and phraseology, and then the “damaged” goods that are evident on forums – you are demiged, it is not your fault it is doz male bastards det have done dis to you, hate them, belittle dem make dem beg, no pussy for a year, treat them like shizen und dey vil cum beck licking your boots.
Enough said, I’m almost depressed, I’m going out dancing at the local Latin club then onto a middle eastern restaurant and more dancing with the belly dancer
   | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 5:53:36 PM | | Truesamurai, things are not that bad here. POF is what is called in statistics a self-selecting sample. In other words, lots of walking wounded. Furious and bitter and determined to make other people as miserable as they are. Having lived in Mexico, South America and Europe I can truly say that the US is the best as far as male/female relations. We have the greatest balance here. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 6:14:40 PM | PinkOleander
glad to hear it, I’ve never visited the US but reading posts on the forum I was beginning to think I might be clubbed to death at the airport by the women there.
...... another man, get him, dont let himget away..... | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 8:16:06 PM | | I agree with @nowboardchick if your not from the ethic background for which you speak you have no right to make broad generalizations. This tread is sexist, racist, and nationalist. Which is an American pastime I guess. Makes me sick. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/14/2009 8:45:00 PM | unityindividuality
nice name sounds like a combination of east meets west, USandUSSR in a huddle.
what happened to free speach?? there is nothing wrong with expressing observations or for the sake of "unity" should people be prevented for doing so.
You can be as individual as you like as long as you are the same as everyone else. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/15/2009 11:21:59 PM |
A friend of mine who worked for a while in Asia married an Asian lady. He believed that Asian women treated men well but he was soon disillusioned. Although she was working when he met her she never worked after they married because it was her husband's job to support her. He also had to support her family back in Asia as she was no longer working to support them. And, even though she wasn't working, she had to have a cleaner come in to do the basic housework because she didn't expect to have to do those sort of menial jobs. He believes she only married him for his money - she thought he was rich because he earned a lot more than people in Asia. So good luck to you all if you think you will do better with a foreign wife.
A typical story of an old fat expat marrying a young Asian bar girl lol.... | |
|
~Kyn~
|
Joined: 8/24/2009
Msg: 96 | |
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/15/2009 11:34:07 PM | do women from different countries act differently some are more carefree and out spoken
Yes we do.Yes we are.
I carry a joey in my pocket and a big knife like Mick Dundee.
I also care about the color of my curtains and will woop yo' ass if you decorate otherwise and I dont like it... or want me to wash the pots before Ive eaten dinner.
Im just unreasonable like that.
Women are the way they are because of ancestry, ethnicity, life experience, genetics, culture, personality, experience and stimulus.
We're alllllll beautiful... we're allllllll unique.... we're alllllllll annoying.... and we're allllllll lovable.
Just like men. | |
|
| |
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/16/2009 2:48:31 AM | What a load of bull and stereotypes I have read in this thread.
I have lived in England/ France and on the Balkans so I can compare these two worlds from my first-hand experience.
First off, it's about personality, not nationality.
But since a lot of people on here ( mostly referring to men) dared to generalize so bluntly about Eastern European women being gold diggers, let me give them a bit of generalization back:
Western men somehow concluded ( through their limited erudition and education through daily press and central TV news) that they can come to Eastern Europe whenever they feel like and immediately get a woman-slave who will fulfil all their needs, keep silent and stroke their ego until the rest of their life. What happens then is that that kind of man finds women over here who speak back, want attention and pampering, etc, basically no different than their Western women. Since that kind of behaviour has not met their expectations of a humble, slave woman, they rush to label them as gold diggers, while their western woman doing it all the time, or even worse, but are never painted with the same brush.
Hell, if I want a boss, I'll hire myself a good Dom, I don't need some damaged, semi-man from Western Europe to come onto me with that kind of attitude/ prejudice/presumptions.
Maybe that's the reason why a 50- year- old man from Western Europe will hit on 18 year- old- girls in Eastern Europe expecting nothing but success? Disgusting.
This discussion is digging deep into politics/ political systems, mentality and culture, and I don't think a dating forum is a place for that.
Conclusively, I must dash your dreams: you won't find slaves in Eastern Europe, don't expect difference. Women all over the world want and deserve genuine respect. If you can't give that, don't expect it back. | |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/16/2009 2:54:14 AM | Hold on, got to jump in for my fellow countryman errr woman.
Hate when it gets to man Vs woman
Good post Kyn, agree with what you say, just got to comment on the following, just my opinion.
We're alllllll beautiful...
Yes each in her own way
we're allllllll unique....
Yes, and men should remember not to judge by previous experiences good or bad
we're alllllllll annoying....
Lol so true, but it makes things so interesting.
and we're allllllll lovable.
I’ll bite my tongue on this one, but let’s face it life without women would be unbearable.
Green.apple
You are overgeneralising a little as well. I see that you are from Zagreb Croatia. I have visited your beautiful country and stayed there for a few years. Ahh, the memories I will never forget. Tkalca street in Zagreb, Riva in Split, the marbled footpaths in Dubrovnik, the nature in Plitvice oh I could go on and on.
From my memory woman are quite different even in different parts of Croatia, in Zagreb more fashionable and pedantic, Split a little more outgoing and loud in the country region a little more homeward looking, even your neighbours Slovenia a little more snobbish, in Hungary it seems that the only skirts that woman buy are mini skirts, in Bosnia more fiery and passionate, in Serbia love to dance on tables, in Bulgaria more quiet yet friendly in Romania wild in every way.
Sorry, but the differences to me at least stuck out more than similarities.
| |
|
| do women from different countries act differently
Posted: 9/16/2009 2:04:58 PM |
A typical story of an old fat expat marrying a young Asian bar girl lol....
Except that he was 30 and thin and she was 26 and respectable. So he had slightly better reasons to hope things would work out than in many ex-pat marriages. But I agree in a lot of cases it is a much older man marrying a young Asian woman and he shouldn't be surprised that the main attraction is his money. | |
|
|
| Page 4 of 7
|
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
|
Home
login 
