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 Olivia2

Joined: 5/17/2006
Msg: 26
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Posted: 5/18/2006 1:49:30 PM
I prefer my men to have a natural penis. I hate cut one's. I wont stay in a relationship with a cut man. I like the taste of smegma and cottage cheese.
 texbiker

Joined: 5/9/2006
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Posted: 5/18/2006 5:02:25 PM
No matter when you have it done, its going to be painful. I think its more painful when done as an infant. I know I was done right after birth and it hurt me so bad, I couldnt walk for over a year.
 MayOne

Joined: 5/17/2006
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Posted: 5/18/2006 7:06:00 PM
Sensitivity!!

Women should be worried about that.

Circumcised penis screw like a drilling machine lol.

 Part-E-Girl

Joined: 4/25/2006
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Posted: 5/18/2006 7:20:04 PM
Cottage cheese? You all are nasty!!! I've seen feta cheese, but not cottage cheese! That's absolutely gross!!!!
 Part-E-Girl

Joined: 4/25/2006
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Posted: 5/18/2006 7:21:33 PM

Circumcised penis screw like a drilling machine lol.


That's the way I like it, baby!! Who wants a guy who cums too fast! Uncut cums too fast! Too sensitive!
 Olivia2

Joined: 5/17/2006
Msg: 31
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Posted: 5/19/2006 6:15:34 AM
I like men that can cum multiple times, so I dont care if he cums too fast. I like sensitive men. I like the taste of uncircumcised men, compared to cut men. Circumcised men have had some of their manhood taken from them. I dont like that. Give me my smegma and feta-cheese, please!
 Gnocchi

Joined: 5/12/2006
Msg: 32
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Posted: 5/19/2006 10:15:55 AM
I'm getting one for real this year. I heard all the negative stuff regarding pain. I was "fixed" that took 3 weeks to heal but it's a small sacrifice for a greater cause. Getting cut changes masturbation for us "turtle-necks". Get some lube! Take some time off when it gets done and make sure you have alot of Ibuprofin and Tylenol for the swelling and pain - not to mention Ice!!!
 Imagine_this

Joined: 4/30/2006
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Posted: 5/19/2006 2:41:15 PM
Right on, Lisa. It should be the choice of the individual, it should not be forced on a baby who cannot decide, and who might later want to have a complete penis again (which is true today).

In the 80s, it was NOT the decision of even the parents of the child, it was default surgery.
 Imagine_this

Joined: 4/30/2006
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Posted: 5/19/2006 2:50:56 PM
With their CIRCUMCIZED partners, women are LESS LIKELY to have a vaginal ORGASM.

Women are MORE LIKELY to have a vaginal orgasm with an UNALTERED partner.

Their CIRCUMCIZED partners are MORE likely to have premature ejaculation.

Women are also more likely to state that they had had vaginal discomfort with a circumcised partner either often or occasionally, as opposed to rarely or never.

More women report that they never achieve orgasm with circumcised partners than with their unaltered partners.

Women are more likely to report never having had a multiple orgasm with their circumcised partners.

They were also more likely to report that vaginal secretions lessened as coitus progressed with their circumcised partners.

http://www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/ohara/
 anticon

Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 35
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Posted: 5/19/2006 7:00:03 PM
I can understand why guys would have this done. Women LOVE a well cut dong. I know there are those who don't, but I haven't met any yet.... whereas I've heard some women say that they were very attracted to uncut at first but after the novelty wore off and the guy got afew years on him, it made the guy look more flaccid than flaccid if he wasn't out there like a diving board.

Hey, if it makes my g/f happy... which she claims to be now... says she LOVES it, then I'M happy.
 ArmorPierce

Joined: 5/17/2006
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Posted: 5/19/2006 11:00:07 PM
That study has several holes.

1. It is to small of a survey size

2. It was done by authors intending to use the information for their book which was anti-circumcision and biased from the beginning.

3. It drew a conclusion that was glaringly wrong.


The older women also had more lifetime unaltered partners (Z=2.95, P=0.002). This may have reflected the decreased availability of unaltered men of similar age for the younger women.


Bzzzz... wrong... circumcision rates has been dropping over the past two decades. The "scientific" study couldn't even look up statistics for that before drawing conclusions.

4. It uses a 13th century antecdote that some rabbi randomly said as evidence. Either you are desensitized from foreskin removal or you're not, you can't have it both way. The Rabbi says that the circumcized man cums as soon as his crown enters her and that the foreskin shields the penis and desensitize. Anyway it's a horrible source.

5. If you take anecdote, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence suggesting the opposite of what this study says

6. Natural is NOT always better. The human appendix is a vestige part having no use and worse of all, once in a while gets infected and has to be removed. I'm not by any means using this to justify circumcisions, after all the situations and are completely different and you wouldn't go in and cut out the human appendix upon birth anyway. I'm am just trying to get rid of this brain bug of natural = better.

Regardless, I am against circumcision on an infant even though I am fine and even glad with my own. The reason I am against it is because it is a pretty permanent (you can now do operations to reverse it sort-of) body change that should be up to the person.
 Warrior612

Joined: 1/23/2006
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Posted: 5/20/2006 12:10:45 AM
I had it done when I was about 10 years old, for medical reasons. I don't remember feeling any pain at all. They knocked me out cold with anesthetic.

It was extremely sensitive for a few days afterwards though. On the night it was done, I couldn't even wear pants, just a long t-shirt.

I know it's not adult, but at 10 years old you're plenty self-aware
 Elena23

Joined: 5/20/2006
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Posted: 5/20/2006 2:34:03 AM
I really love peeling back a man's foreskin and finding a healthy amount of smegma there because I love the smell and taste of it! I love rubbing it inside of me too! I find it unfair of women to make men feel badly because of this. We get yeast infections all the time and deal with "cottage cheese" like discharge all the time and most men don't complain.
 Imagine_this

Joined: 4/30/2006
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Posted: 5/20/2006 4:42:02 AM
Armorpierce said,

" It is to small of a survey size."

Given the overwhelming odds, the data pool is more than sufficient for statistical significance.

Armorpierce quoted,

"The older women also had more lifetime unaltered partners (Z=2.95, P=0.002). This may have reflected the decreased availability of unaltered men of similar age for the younger women."

then responded,

"Bzzzz... wrong... circumcision rates has been dropping over the past two decades. The "scientific" study couldn't even look up statistics for that before drawing conclusions."

Your thinking is sloppy here armourpierce...you are right that circumcision rates have been dropping over the latest two decades; however, consider the lag time between those rates and when the women in question experienced the circed/uncirced sexually. If the circ rate drops from 64% in 1980, to 40% in 2000, that means women who were born alongside the men who were born in 1980 will be having sex with those born in appr 1980. The "over 40" women are not having sex with babies, as you suggested.

Armorpierce wrote,

"It uses a 13th century antecdote that some rabbi randomly said as evidence. Either you are desensitized from foreskin removal or you're not, you can't have it both way. The Rabbi says that the circumcized man cums as soon as his crown enters her and that the foreskin shields the penis and desensitize. Anyway it's a horrible source."


First of all, he is NOT just some rabbi. If you were jewish, you would know that he was THE foremost commentator on the Torah. He is still a pillar of Judaism. This is noteworthy, since circumcision was invented by their god (or, if you prefer to say, "by the Jews," still the following holds), and not by some medical doctor who discovered it was more sanitary this way. The original purpose was for the covenant between YWVH and man. Later, some justified it by alleging it was cleaner. Now, the first reason, if not the only reason given for it, is cleanliness; which from the outset was a rationalization.


Armorpierce wrote,

"The Rabbi says that the circumcized man cums as soon as his crown enters her and that the foreskin shields the penis and desensitize. Anyway it's a horrible source."

When did the Rabbi say this? Read the study before you attack it in the name of science.

Armorpierce wrote

"If you take anecdote, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence suggesting the opposite of what this study says"


We agree here. I place no stock in anecdote. When a girl says, "I love it natural," or "Natural is sexy," that means nothing except to her.

Armorpierce wrote,

"Natural is not always better."

I agree wholeheartedly. However, the foreskin cannot be compared to the appendix. The foreskin serves many purposes. In support of the foreskin's utility, in humans and other species, the evidence is overwhelming (if you'd look at it from both sides).
Again, remember why men started cutting off part of their babies penises. Was it because they thought it served no purpose? No--it was a command from god.


I am glad you are against circumcision, if only because it is a body modification forced on babies without anesthetic. But, then, babies can't complain, so let's keep acting like an uncivilized, primitive culture and continue this tradition of cutting off part of our babies penises, because "he'll look like his father." This is tantamount to the tribes who force prepubescent men to drink the semen from the elders, straight from you know where, as a rite of passage; or other tribes where they scar the boy's body to symbolize his entrance to manhood. Only we are doing it to baby boys, as a matter of course. By default, most doctors (fewer modern doctors, now), just chop it off without even asking the parents. Even asking the parents makes me sick to my stomach, as though they have a right to the baby boy's body.

If you want your son to be circumcized, do it yourself. Don't pay your doctor $200 to do it. You can sell the foreskin to the cosmetic companies, and you might just feel a little of the guilt that ought to be falling on your shoulders, from cutting up part of your son's body when he couldn't defend himself against you cruel vandals.
 EuroCutiee

Joined: 5/20/2006
Msg: 40
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:36:05 AM
yess i still remember that day when i was 4 years old me and my bro same time hahaha me and him was running away :) but its very clean and u feel something really strong ;) but watch out dont let him cut everything tho ;)
 BuzWeaver

Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 41
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:37:19 AM

This is a call out to the guys out there....

I'm thinking about possibly getting a circumcisions, however, I heard that it is UNBELIEVABLY painful as an adult.

Also, there might be other issues that I should know about...both positive and negative and would like to hear from anyone who can possibly shed any light on this.

thanks.


Do a little online research, which you may have done, then contact a physician.
 Dolphin8755

Joined: 3/9/2005
Msg: 42
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:07:14 AM
Sweety someone dear to me had this done at the age of 30. (Relative) I was a child when this happened.

Bottom line, Doc cut too much, it got infected, Doc had to cut the head off the member and this person sued and got loads of money. You think about this before you consider the risks.

Take care and I hope if you do get it things go better for you.

Deb.
 Crash27

Joined: 12/28/2005
Msg: 43
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Posted: 5/20/2006 11:46:43 AM
Part-E-Girl : [Uncut cums too fast! Too sensitive!} Cumming to fast is all dependant on the person. Since I tend to make more female than male friends, and unfourtunate me has heard some of the conversations that we men just shouldn't here. I've heard it in both cases. Both cut and uncut guys that are mere minute men.

My personal opinion to the OP. Do your research, and if you feel it is necessary, go for it. But if your gonna do it, make sure it is because you want to. Not because a lot of women say they don't like it.

Me.... not cut, and how hard is it really to pull the skin back and wash it. I'd only ever get it done if there was a medical problem and I had to.

Just thought of something kinda funny. My ex used to say it's like playing Roll'Up The Rim To Win.....
 KrissiNJ72

Joined: 5/19/2006
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Posted: 5/20/2006 12:06:24 PM
I think it's a personal decision you need to give alot of thought about..why are you considering getting it done? So long as you are doing it for "you" I would say ..go for it! Personally, I CANNOT and will not sleep with a man who is not cut...it's just one of my many quirks..
 anticon

Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 45
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Posted: 5/20/2006 1:30:22 PM


We get yeast infections all the time and deal with "cottage cheese" like discharge all the time and most men don't complain.

Some of us understand that women get crotch rot... We hate the smell.... it's hardly tolerable.... but for the fact that we care about women we don't say anything... but it is to barf...
 ArnoldLayne

Joined: 1/9/2006
Msg: 46
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Posted: 5/20/2006 2:16:09 PM
Quite simple: Women don't have a penis, therefore, can't fairly talk about this issue. As far as sensitivity and the like...it is the same as comparing apples and oranges...who can say one is better than the other? I can't imagine how rotten a man's penis would stink after a full days worth of work...let alone the fungus that would be brewing under there...for health reasons, when done at birth, it rids a male a lifetime of undo hazard of a potential later-life 'chop-job'...maintenance-free is the way to be! Plus, it looks a damn sight better....
 Part-E-Girl

Joined: 4/25/2006
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Posted: 5/20/2006 4:26:26 PM

I really love peeling back a man's foreskin and finding a healthy amount of smegma there because I love the smell and taste of it! I love rubbing it inside of me too! I find it unfair of women to make men feel badly because of this. We get yeast infections all the time and deal with "cottage cheese" like discharge all the time and most men don't complain.


Elena, try not to generalize women as a whole. Myself, I have never had a yeast infection. Then again, I rarely sleep with uncut men (and if I do, I always use a rubber). Maybe you're getting yeast infections and "cottage cheese" like discharge all the time because you love rubbing smegma inside you all the time! Just my thoughts!
 The Frenchman

Joined: 4/13/2006
Msg: 48
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Posted: 5/20/2006 4:31:43 PM
Thanks to everyone who replied....

Re: "Why do you want to do that?"....well, those are my reasons alone lol.

Re: "performance"....I'm not too concerned about that lol, because I don't completely rely on my pecker to do all the work and have found that other body parts can work wonders on a woman lol.

Re: "infection"....I really didn't know and thanks for bring up the risk.

Re: "pain"....I thank all the guys that have responded. However, I have 2 question for you:

1) Are you happy that you did it?
2) Would you go through it again if you were faced with the situation again (ofcourse, this is a hypothetical situation lol) knowing what you now?

Thanks!
 marsinleo

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Posted: 5/20/2006 4:43:11 PM
Short Answer,

I'm against it, though few get a choice. Some studies say men develope differently due to it ... identity is such a delicate membrane itself

I like to keep all my nerves intact and thus feel the most I can when physical pleasure finds me.

Here is a link to all the pro's and con's with some good solid info:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts626078.aspx
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Posted: 5/21/2006 8:48:29 AM
By the way, there are some scientific benefits from Circumcisions and the most important one is that the penis-head is less vulnerable to have germs around it when the skin is removed and it's not supposed to stink! It can easily be cleaned when the head is not in the folder!



THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE! It is just as clean as the person is! The only real meddical concern is that cirumsized men have less of a change of getting penis cancer in there 70's and 80's it reduces the chance by about 3%!

Also as far as appearance sake circumsized or not when it's hard unless it's being inspected there is very little dirrence.

As for sexual sensitivity the 'hood' portects the end of the penis so men who are not circumsized have greater sensitivity. Think of it this way the inside of your mouth and your lips are the same matterial, the difference is your lips are exposed to air therefore they become tougher, the same thing happens to a circumsized penis!
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