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Posted: 5/27/2006 9:29:14 AM | I am agreeing with this that it’s easy for ordinary Man to love (lifelong) a weak woman. Being in relationships with a strong women require from Men a constant growth and betterment in all areas of life.
There are Man who like predicted life with simple scheduled events. Why do you have to work on yourself if you have weak woman who adores you, putting you on the pedestal? Yes, it busts man’s self-esteem and confidence. Man is satisfied with what they got and happy where they are. What is the problem? No problem for them, but in the sub-consciousness of their mind, I am sure, they know their worth.
Weak Man is more jealous when compared with the strong Man. He knows it and woman knows it. There are also Men who need a challenge. Strong woman boosts their manliness and has ability to challenges them which dominates them among other Man.
All depends from the person how far they want to go in life and their character traits. You have a choice and you choose that what suits you most.
Strong woman perfectly knows what she looks from relationships. In additions to that, strong woman looks for equality. In order to walk lifetime distance strong woman need more. Weak man is not going even understand her desires and wishes not saying that he will walk along with her. Ego is going grow an enormous wall. Strong Woman doesn’t need provider. She doesn’t need a Man she wants a Man. There is a difference.
"You are an extraordinary woman; how do you expect to lead an ordinary life?"
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Posted: 5/27/2006 10:04:27 AM | O boy another thread that can make you the main course at a fish fry.....
My 2 cents , sometimes too much can be read into things he's strong , she's strong , or he lets her walk all over him he's whipped and therefore a wimp . being a strong person can be a good quallity confidence inspires confidence in others , but when a position of strength becomes a position of righteousness hear lies the problem.. I believe in a relationship we need to be both giving and taking some times the roles call for equallity and sometimes there is the need for a stonger person to step forward.if we never bend and allways state I am a stong whatever then yes we will never compromise and probably be ummmm how was it said above very single.. jmho | |
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Posted: 5/27/2006 10:04:29 AM | first of all, GREAT topic sas and i think you put My Island in her place  but you rright.... most guys won't go into a relationship with a women already tainted with children from another relationship or fling ("tainted" seems such a harsh word) because personally, i believe she shouldn't be openning her legs to just anyone anyways... though it may have been a bad mistake on her part (which presented itself as wonderful children) she should still deserve a chance... Strong women in general shouldn't be intimidating.... that just means they know what they want, and don't depend on you (or your wallet) to support them.... I love it when a girl could tell me exactly what she feels (whether it bothers me or not) because how else could the problem (if any) be fixed without total communications... Personally, i am unattracted to "weak" women... it makes me feel like im someones crutch (like a father).... well, anyways, i don't know where i'm going with this, but My Island..... i don't know what your problem is with this article (I feel its great and has many great responses).... could it be that you had a bad experience before and felt you should leash it out on someones well stated opinion? Still makes me laugh
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Posted: 5/27/2006 3:35:59 PM | I did business with a woman this past few days. She had a very strong personality and the arrogance to go with it. I explained to her what the most effective and efficient way was to perform the task at hand - cost = $200 - $250.
Her reply, "You're not going to take advantage of me because I am a woman! I'm not that stupid!"
I then asked her what she would propose as an alternative and I will do it that way. She told me what she wanted and she told me how she wanted it done. I said "Fine. It's your money. But that is not the best way to go about it."
She didn't care. Final bill = $470.
I'll take an independant, charming woman over a strong willed woman anyday.... unless I am doing business witrh them  | |
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Posted: 5/27/2006 5:55:31 PM | Sadly the image of a strong woman comes across as a woman with attitude. Strong women have always existed. They teach their values quietly. They are the ones that take care of their children even as their eyes are bleary from lack of sleep. They comfort their men when the weight of the world is too much. They work as hard as they can to provide the needs of themselves and/or their families. They do it with grace and gentleness.
A strong woman is not a woman with a chip on her shoulder. She knows that she's a lady and isn't ashamed of that fact. She knows that there are times she needs to be comforted and times she must return that comfort.
She is simply a woman.
A strong man is there for their family and community. He holds his values dear to his heart. He knows when to be tough and when to be gentle. He doesn't have to play the field because he is loved.
He isn't a wimp, even when the tears run down his face. He comforts and holds his partner when times are hard.
He is a man.
I may have a simplistic view of this, but it is my opinion. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2006 8:15:06 PM | I'm a very strong person. But I don't consider strong meaning independence. Strong to me means I am a fighter, that I've struggled through things in my life and came out the better for it and with a big heart.
But - due to this, that inner shell is greatly protected by the outer shell. There are very few people who see the inner vulnerable shell.
I want a man who I can trust in order to remove my outer shell. And I wish to be the same for him. When this happens, I think both partners feel "safe". To me, that man would be strong in a sense as he is there for me in my time of need. Now if you reverse this, would you call the woman in this situation "nurturing"?
If so, it is interesting how despite the changes in the world today, those ole basic roles still seem to apply.
I have a friend who has cancer. He is being very strong and trying to remain positive. His wife recently told me that he is her rock. But I'm pretty sure he would say the same about her.
I have seen the phenom of some men loving weak women - but what defines weak? What I consider weak may not be what another considers weak. And it may seem like the woman is weak to others, but who knows what goes on in private? | |
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Posted: 5/27/2006 9:56:01 PM | Sometimes there is weakness found in strength and strength in weakness.
Isn't it more important to be there for each other equally in a relationship?
A balance, a ying and yang, each person whole and complete by themselves, but both the necessary esentials of a what really makes a partnership.
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Posted: 5/27/2006 10:09:34 PM | This is a really good thread... and I've loved reading posts from strong, vibrant, competent women, that always makes me smile.
The way I have always seen this in the dating world? I am me, my strength and my competence are a part of me. To pretend helplessness to make myself more "dateable" would be lying to a potential date, and failing to be true to myself.
Besides, I wouldn't want a man who couldn't accept me exactly as I am.
I have scared off some men who were intimidated by my strength and the fact that I'm good at many traditionally male things, but those were men who NEEDED to feel some kind of superiority over a woman to bolster their own egos. A man who is secure in himself is accepting of all the wonderful things a strong woman has to offer. 
Gotta say it again, you strong women ROCK | |
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Posted: 5/28/2006 5:18:55 AM | I have an inner strength that has always kept me going, even through the worst of times.
Am I arrogant, no. If I can't fix it, or figure it out, I ask for help. I will stick up for myself and I don't have to yell or swear at anyone to do it.
Do I love a strong man? How do you define strong? A confident man, yes.
Do I need a man to rule my life? No, I would like a partner, a friend and companion.
I would like to be with someone with whom I can make happy, meaning he accepts me and is happy with whom I am, which in turn makes us both happy. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2006 5:40:06 AM | Pandy,
You are a great example of a strong woman. Many respect you because you use your strength to be your own person. You do not use your strength to crumble the will of others.
KJ,
I also agree with your viewpoint. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2006 6:34:16 AM | I like to think I am a strong, independant woman and have been told that. Going through my separation and divorce I questioned that from time to time but did in fact come through with flying colours! I faced each and every challenge even when I had doubts (fear of the unkown will do that to you), and survived becoming stronger each time.
I admire strong men and women with a mind of their own, who are not influenced by others and will accept new challenges.
Weak to me means, whiney, poor me, lack of motivation, undecided, ok, wimpy! 
I prefer a strong man to take the bull by the horns and ride it dammit! | |
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Posted: 5/28/2006 7:52:13 AM | Well I see everyones posting if they want a strong or a weak type person as a mate.
Well I for one want someone who is neither weak or strong .
Why am I saying that ?
Well I want a person who is (The Real Deal ).
In other words be who you are .
Theres no weak or strong people to be honest . Everyone has a different personallity for sure and thats where you all are making your weak or strong decisions on people .
Some of those weak people can be very very strong when needed to be and thats something thats not always known .
And alot of the so called strong people you talk about are actually very scared lonely people on the inside but they mask that by not being who they really are and that can some times be a bad thing !!
So I want a real person as a mate and the heck with the others .   | |
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Posted: 5/28/2006 5:36:54 PM | I'm not exactly sure why a strong woman is automatically perceived as a bulldog, an overzealous female who holds no prisoners! There are many circumstances that result in someone becoming strong-willed, but that is NOT what I was referring to here.
A strong person is one who is independant, one who has their own opinions and doesn't always follow the pack, one who is emotionally self-sufficient and doesn't necessarily need the approval of others to feel worthy. Possessing all of these qualities does not make one conceited, arrogant, or self-indulgent. It simply suggests that this person is self-sufficient and doesn't NEED a male to define who they are or who they will become, but would welcome a partnership that is based on love and respect.
You are a great example of a strong woman. Many respect you because you use your strength to be your own person. You do not use your strength to crumble the will of others.
My Island... It's funny how you praise one female claiming to be strong, yet accuse another of being conceited, arrogant, and ignorant. How unfortunate it is, that you cast stones without knowing one iota about the individual!
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Posted: 5/28/2006 5:56:15 PM |
Men only become their fullest selves when they accept their femininity; women, when their own masculinity is also embraced.
Suddenly I feel the need to eat chocolate, have a bubble bath and, Mmmm, slip into something lacy... I think the acceptance is working - Someone arm-wrestle Roxy, I get soooo steamy watching a couple of chicks proving their prowess | |
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Posted: 5/29/2006 2:43:29 PM | Ok... first of all.... armor.. check. Shields up :)
Some of this may sound offensive, but if you read through all of it, you will discover I am not insulting anyone... simply describing an unfortunate situation.
I'm not exactly sure why a strong woman is automatically perceived as a bulldog, an overzealous female who...
I have "encountered" many women... both in business, and otherwise... who like to cop an attitude. The walk around with a chip on thier shoulder, attacking any man who might have an opinion, or genuine knowledge of a subject. Even in thier intimate relationships, they are belligerant, controlling, and nasty. Any time any challenges the behavior of these women, they respond with "You just don't like / can't handle that I am a strong woman!", or "you are just mad/upset/embarassed cuz a woman beat you" . Anyone, especially if it is a man, who further objects to this behaviour is then labeled a chauvenist.
Not only are these women not strong, but they give real women who are a bad name. Ladies, if it is any concillation, similar things happen to men who are men and not just males, too.
The really unfortunate part is that many think that the above described woman really is a "strong" woman, and so this poor behaviour is tolerated and perpetuated. Although this is only a guess on my part, I suspect that at least a part of this is due to the perception that this is how a woman will get ahead in what once was described as a "man's world". I would like to think that both men and women have evolved to the point were this approach is not only unneccessary, but seen to be as abhorrent to most of the rest of the population as it is to me, regardless of wether it is a man or a woman using it.
Personally I am drawn to women who are strong, intelligent, confident,etc... I want the woman that I would be with to be, on average, my equal.. Stronger than I at some things, and I being the stronger in others... and together, we compliment each other, and use those strengths together as we go forth.
A truly strong woman, like a truly strong man, does not have to trample on those around her/him. And a real person of character and strength uses the abilities they posses to build up others, not tear them down.
It is also interesting to note, that in my personal opinion, that the gentlest, most caring, loving women I have ever met were also those who were the strongest, most confident and capable. Those that truly posses that strength don't need to advertise it..
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Posted: 5/29/2006 2:58:43 PM |
My Island... It's funny how you praise one female claiming to be strong, yet accuse another of being conceited, arrogant, and ignorant. How unfortunate it is, that you cast stones without knowing one iota about the individual
That's because she spoke about herself and didn't validate her strength through senseless (subjective) evaluation of others. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2006 3:53:02 PM | Coping an attitude is not a show of strength from either male or female, we used to call this being a bully. It's the inner strength to face up to whatever challenges come your way.
When I was a teenager my Dad asked me to dispose of his ashes when the time came as I had the inner strength to deal with it, unlike my older sister who would be too soft to handle it. I had to do this when I was 21.
I've met many people who have had to face worse trials and tribulations throughout their lives than I've ever had to face, and some of these people are real shy and quite. They deal with what comes their way and never cave in to adversity, that to me is true strength. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2006 5:42:35 PM | | I think the whole thing is quite interesting. I am very independant, single mom, great career, always done things for myself, mom always drilled into my head "never let yourself be dependant on a man" or anyone for that matter. My friends too are great sexy independant and intelligent women, and I gotta say that at this age and juncture in our lives, we seem to be mostly single. I have dated guys that say " oh I think an independant woman is sexy" but then they high tail it out of there when I voice an opinion. hmmmm....go figure. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2006 5:42:46 PM | | I think the whole thing is quite interesting. I am very independant, single mom, great career, always done things for myself, mom always drilled into my head "never let yourself be dependant on a man" or anyone for that matter. My friends too are great sexy independant and intelligent women, and I gotta say that at this age and juncture in our lives, we seem to be mostly single. I have dated guys that say " oh I think an independant woman is sexy" but then they high tail it out of there when I voice an opinion. hmmmm....go figure. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2006 5:48:20 PM | | Greanize I love how you worded this "I may be strong as in independant, self supporting, and a survivor, but I am still a woman who desires a man in her life...a companion, a partner, a friend, a lover, and a protector. I still feel, have feelings, have vulnerabilities, have moments of weakness, and moments of strength. I am independant because I am alone and I have to be. I am self-supporting because I have to be. I am a survivor because I have to be." It speaks volumes and its exactly how I feel. Just because you are an independant woman, doesnt mean you do not want someone to share yourself with, I'm a tad tired of waking up alone in my big comfy bed......But I wont compromise myself and act needy. I would love a man to be an equal, each with opinions, it makes for great debates.......and great makeup sex. LOL | |
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Posted: 5/29/2006 6:16:12 PM | I would love to show my weak side but it's difficult when you have been strong for so long ... just when I think I can show my weaker side no one knows what to do with me when I do ...  | |
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