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Posted: 5/29/2006 6:50:29 PM | I prefer a strong woman. Unfortunately strong women don't prefer me 
We need each other's strengths... it's that easy. Being independant and strong (either gender) is not as rewarding as sharing pension funds at age 65  | |
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dar50
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Joined: 5/26/2006
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Posted: 5/29/2006 7:44:32 PM | | I am at a loss to define what is strength or weakness...and how do we know if someone is 'strong'....being loud and abrasive and not tolerating any crap...well that does not equal strength to me....some of the strongest women I have ever known...would not say 'poop' if their mouths were full of it...they would never be rude or arrogant to anyone..but they are pillars of strength in their souls....so I guess it just depends on what degree of strength or weakness men are looking for..and only they can define it in a woman...it is so hot tonight, I think my brain is fried...I will post this jumbled up little mess anyway...maybe someone else can understand what I just said...because I don't...lol | |
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Posted: 5/29/2006 7:51:23 PM | @Dar... I wouldn't call it a jumbled up mess..... it makes a lot of sense. I could not agree more - true inner strength in all people - regardless of gender, tends to come from truly knowing yourself ... and loving and accepting what you see in the mirror.... not allowing people to push you around, or compromise your boundaries.... but not being loud and abrasive in the process. If we are loud and abrasive in the process, we will probably get that attitude back ... whereas a quiet innner strength tends to go a lot further..... not saying I am perfect at it, or even close.... just working on it.... as I think we all are!!!
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Posted: 5/30/2006 5:54:00 PM | My Island...............
That's because she spoke about herself and didn't validate her strength through senseless (subjective) evaluation of others.
I suggest you read the original post again before spewing comments such as this... This was meant to be a positive thread, one that causes some deeper thought about how men and women interact and view each other instead of mind-numbing jibberish and you were the FIRST to lash out. You completely missed the point and if you think that I need to validate my own worth through others, you are SADLY mistaken...
It just so happens that I know a lot of great women who I admire and believe to be strong and independent for a variety of reasons, several of them who just happen to be on here. Who we surround ourselves with can often reflect who we are or who we strive to be... Believe it or not, I tend to possess a quiet confidence that rarely shows. However, I'm proud of who I am, what I've accomplished and the influences in my life can only help me get better! Call that conceited if you want, because I'm sure you will. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 7:22:50 PM | The following is from the OP:
On the other hand, a strong woman, like any other competition, is a threat to his sense of himself
Forget about her jaded view of men, she degrades those she considers as weak women. In her mind she has one definition of a 'strong woman" She's too busy focusing on her ego to "win" rather than focusing on strength to endure... There is a difference between surviving and having to be the winner.
I prefer a strong woman... but now comes the problem of agreeing what "strong" is. We obviously do not have the same perspective on the subject.
Believe it or not, I tend to possess a quiet confidence that rarely shows. However, I'm proud of who I am, what I've accomplished and the influences in my life can only help me get better! Call that conceited if you want, because I'm sure you will
I don't call that conceited.... I applaud you for feeling that way. I think it is imperative everyone feel that way about themself. I consider it conceited if you were to say that your strength is a threat to another person or if you suggest that, as the title suggests, you are too strong for a man to desire you. That's hogwash and very arrogant thinking.
Actually the thread title is a contradiction.... keeping the terms "strong" and "weak" in mind, the title could easily suggest that strong women like strong men. Therefore her argument is rather redundant.
Oneafternoon (below): I'm bad I guess. It's just that I don't like weak women (or bimbo's for that matter) as the title suggests. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 10:40:23 AM | Oh brother,,,with the words "strong" and "weak" we create an island (no pun intended)
It isn't about the "sexes" its about knowing who you are and being true to it. If you need to constantly advertise or "prove" it, you need to go back to the root. Your core.
Comfortable in your own skin, no matter what "labels" others choose to place on it, and the right to choose whats compatible with you. Seems to me the debate is null and void.
I personally would never be presumptious enough to tell anyone what to think of me. Thats up to you as the individual to determine. And I'm not stubborn enough to think I can "argue" my way to my point of view. It is what it is, and if I'm being me and not "pretending" you are smart enough to decipher.
Peace out
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bernzg
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Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 5/31/2006 10:47:34 AM | Off topic I know...but...
I thought our My_Island had been pulling the wool over our eyes when I saw the picture!
Then I read the profile...had a scary moment, but I'm over it now. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 11:09:33 AM |
I thought our My_Island had been pulling the wool over our eyes when I saw the pictu
Just for the record bernzq,,,I'M the original Myisland. Look at when we each joined
However, couldn't ask for a better copywriter,,,, | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 11:52:48 AM | I prefer a woman who is strong enough to not confuse tenderness with weakness.
One that can actually accept at face value that someone respects her accomplishments and doesn't need to constantly stroke her ego.
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Posted: 6/1/2006 6:22:21 PM | | It depends on what u believe strength is.I've met some strong ladies who are sweethearts.A lady who works full time,cleans and takes care of her loved ones is as strong as any man.I also know some ladies who are involved with the community and can stand their ground with the best of them.Nurses work with the sick and dying,,and smile every day,,Now that is strength.And yet all of these ladies are consided by some to be the weaker sex I'll never know why.I like someone who is strong with a soft heart. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2006 6:44:13 PM | I think it is interesting that we all have different views on what defines "strong" women. I feel that women sometimes need to be strong in their views, confident in their strengths, supportive of their ideas - especially in business. I know a lot of women who have gotten to the upper ranks in the business world - title etc. but still are ridiculed for being tough in the boardroom - when in reality they are just as tough as a man would be but get a different response. I think strength comes from character, how you conduct yourself, fair, insightful, do you listen to others and care about feelings, how do you cope with making unpopular decisions, are you a mentor or a meany? I get the impression from the leader of this thread that she is an AMAZING WOMAN. Someone who has great friends, has had love in her life, and is just wondering if there is a disconnect for finding that forever love because she is strong. I am no expert on this but I think the man that is meant for you will not be defined as strong or weak, in fact he will admire your strength, admire your soft underbelly (everyone has one), he will find the perfect way to bring out the best in you and love you for who you are. And not to get on Island's hit list - I don't think the response to the original thread was fair. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Cheers
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Posted: 6/1/2006 7:13:14 PM | And not to get on Island's hit list
Don't worry... I don't have a hit list and I don't begrudge anyone for having an opinion.
Edit: Regarding message #64 - men are allowed opinions without having to be told to apologise for disagreeing with a woman - this isn't "Oprah", ya know -LOL!!
Maybe I'll better understand her objective if she can define what a "weak" woman is. According to her thread title, married/dating women (loved by a man) must be weak because men only love weak women.... hmmmm. | |
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Joined: 3/7/2006
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Posted: 6/1/2006 8:16:38 PM | we should all realize that being strong means you can be weak as well. and vise versa.
everyone it seems is trying to decide on what weak and strong mean. and they're overlooking the fact that these definitions are whatever you personally think they are. it's all a matter of opinion to each person.. i myself think that both definitions of strong and weak can mean both positive and negitive things....it's all in when you chose to be weak and when you chose to be strong, that matter. i prefer neither strong nor weak men, i prefer someone that knows the difference. | |
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Posted: 6/2/2006 11:10:19 AM | Be yourself. Be true to yourself. The right man will appreciate you for that and will fall in love with the real you. Don't compromise who you are to attract a man - a man will be attracted to you - the whole package. Not a solution but it is the only way to go. If you change to attract someone they are not with the real you.
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Posted: 6/3/2006 10:01:01 PM |
Maybe I'll better understand her objective if she can define what a "weak" woman is. According to her thread title, married/dating women (loved by a man) must be weak because men only love weak women.... hmmmm.
Forget about her jaded view of men, she degrades those she considers as weak women. In her mind she has one definition of a 'strong woman" She's too busy focusing on her ego to "win" rather than focusing on strength to endure... There is a difference between surviving and having to be the winner.
If you read a little closer My Island... the comment about "competition" is part of a quote taken from a book!! (which was clearly bolded) Also, the title of the thread is in reference to it as well! Maybe you should take the time to distinguish between one's words and comments of others that is being presented.
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Joined: 10/2/2004
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Posted: 6/3/2006 11:16:07 PM | My opinion of being strong is the ability to pick yourself up, dust off and move on. Life if full of ups and downs and don't let it wear you down. Be yourself, enjoy what makes you happy and don't let the past get you down. We've all been hurt, don't carry that with you and don't punish someone else for what someone has done to you. Everyone is different and treat everyone well. There are people that try to run over others and I just feel sorry for them. Why would you want to do that to anyone and isn't it sad they feel to get ahead or feel better about themselves they feel the need to.
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Posted: 6/8/2006 5:48:38 AM | | Pandy you don't seem to me to pose any threat to masculinity, if that is important to you. I am haveing a problem reading what kind of a man who may impress you. No on can really mean that have you leaves no room for comprimise. Good relationship are based on a certain amount of compremise because most men don't claim to be Jesus, and most would admit that maybe there is room for improvement. You say men must accept the way you are. Is there no room for improvement in you? Dan | |
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Posted: 6/8/2006 6:15:27 AM | | As do most people, women and men, I have both qualities. I think men love that they don't have to spend what little time they have in our busy world taking care of me. Constantly reasurring me, fixing all my problems. They can just enjoy me. I also occasionally need a strong shoulder, falter under the weight of life, and know they also enjoy being that strong shoulder propping me up. I've been lucky, known a lot of strong men. Also seen their softer side. Nothing more touching then when a strong man can cry in front of you and accept a strong shoulder in return. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2006 8:46:21 AM | I have discovered that the men in my life are very challenged by my abilities ... I'm always very careful to let them know that being complex (as I am) does not in any way shape or form mean that I am complicated.
I hope that someday, I will find a man who truly knows the difference.
Unfortunately, when men find out how many things I am able to do and do participate in, they either feel threatened or severly challenged. They can't seem to accept a woman who can do construction work, can work on her own car (okay change oil and such ... can definitely change a flat tire), sing, dance, cook, sew ... I'm a nurse. That means I'm not the squeemish type as well. As they find out all the things I can do, they just start backing off.
Don't men want women who can help them with a home project? Can help change a flat tire or the oil? Is capable of sewing the curtains needed in the home as opposed to running out and buying the finished product?
I love strong men ... men who are capable as I am of doing many things ... men who are complex yet not complicated ... flexible and not set in their ways. I think possessing the ability to be flexable shows strength ... set in your ways shows weakness, and an inability to be accepting of others' ways as well.
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Posted: 6/8/2006 8:55:05 AM | | Maybe I've been lucky? Or are we "strong" women using this as an excuse for being alone? I've never heard or seen a man being put off by my being "strong". Most men I've dated admire and respect what I've been able to do on my own. I have never considered myself to be strong, just did what I had to do. Maybe self professed "strong" women have a chip on their shoulders? Just a thought. | |
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Joined: 5/28/2006
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Posted: 6/8/2006 10:26:45 AM | This is a very interesting thread.
It's really a two parter. One - that men love weak women and Two - that women love strong men but Part One is definitely getting WAYYYYY more air time than Part Two. I'm curious why that is. Is it somehow more "acceptable" that women love strong men than for men to love weak women?
Okay, we (women) seem to have to start with a declaration that we, too, are one of the "strong women" group. I'm afraid I can't in good conscience join in. I don't think I am. I've met some strong women. My grandmother was the midwife of our village in Nova Scotia and would treat blacks and Native Americans equally when the doctors would not see them in the early 1900's. That took courage. My mother was a huge part of getting women in Ontario's factories equal wages for equal work. That took strength. Compared to them, I've done squat. I haven't faced down an angry mob, I haven't faced down a bunch of corporate lawyers. Hell, sometimes, I'm not sure if I want Coke or Pepsi. And I've sure failed some tests of fortitude in my life. In group situations, I tend to be rather quiet. So I guess that makes me one of the "weak ones" and men love me? Really? Can't say I noticed that. They usually make me their best friend and date the showy ones.
And on to Part Two ... I've been guilty of that, I think. And I know I've made a lot of mistakes on what constitutes strength in a man. I tend to date emotionally unavailable men and think somehow the fact that they are cold equals strong. I like to think I've finally gotten over that one. I've dated physically strong men like body builders and such and thought that was strength and realized, no that was vanity. I tried dating the sensitive ones but ...er... that is difficult. Not for me but for the guy. I found I really didn't mind seeing a guy cry. I didn't think the least bit less of him, however, try to convince him of that! Geesh! I don't think the guy forgives -you- for witnessing a breakdown of his, no matter how unjudgemental you are of it. And what's a girl to do about that? I didn't see the breakdown as weak, I thought it took bravery and I was actually very deeply honoured to be "let in". But it definitely damaged our relationship - actually it was never the same again. So is it really that women love strong men or that men can't stand to perceive themselves as weak men? Just a thought.
And roxy, *chuckling* My mom can so take your mom. However, pretty sure you can kick my ass. (And nobody messes with Granny or she'll make you take this homemade cough syrup made from goosefat and molasses and other crap. The most disgusting tasting thing on earth. It works because you're terrified to cough again around her!) | |
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Posted: 6/8/2006 11:49:20 AM | | I'm quite strong & it hasn't effected my relationship with my b/f. ok, hes on the weaker side, but I still love the guy. The only thing that bothers him is that I can toss him over my shoulder & walk off with him (hes a tall bean pole). | |
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