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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 9:46:32 AM | "hot" women, as you put them are relatively uneducated."
Them's fightin' words! Actually, I don't think the OP even qualified what he meant by "hot woman". First off, "hotness" is subjective. I have met men who I would consider physically attractive, but as soon as they open their mouths, they loose their appeal. On the other hand, I've spoken with men who would not stand out in a crowd based on their looks (in my opinion); yet, when they speak they come alive and can be very sexy.
That said, I read a study once (it was a long time ago, can't source it but you have google) that found people of similar levels of physical attractiveness tend to gravitate to one another. That makes sense to me.
Also I think that the reason why average looking men feel entitled to date extremely "hot" women is because the media tells them that it should be so. Essentially, they are brain-washed by marketing. It's unfortunate, because not even the women in those images can live up to the "hotness" that's expected of them all the time.
Why not try getting to know someone from the inside first? I once knew an "average" looking guy for four years. At first, there was no attraction whatsoever--just friendship. Then suddenly something sparked and the relationship progressed beyond friendship. Although that was twelve years ago, he has now become "the bar" for any potential future lovers.
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 10:30:26 AM | I would have to say that personality is very important. If you can have a nice flowing converstation on many subjects. You have to be able to keep thier interest.
I get alot of comments saying that I am Hot I really don't think I am. But if I am I try to say hello or answer emails to see what the guy is about.
It is true that should be something that physically attracts you and visa versa. It could be a smile or personality that lights up a room...
You just have to talk to them first and get to know them....
Can't judge a book by its cover..........If you do you will miss out of knowing someone wonderful....
Good Luck
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 10:47:35 AM | HAVE YOU EVER???????? ASK OUT A "AVERAGE" LOOKING GIRL ????????????? I LOVE YOUR ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS HEAR IT FROM THE "REAL" MEN!!!!!!!!    HAVE YOUUUUUUUUUU ?????????? I BET THE ANSWER IS "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo" FAYE | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 11:20:16 AM | Oh come on OP. Women are way more flexible on looks than guys. The chance of you seeing an average looking guy with a hot girl is way more likely than visa versa.
I think the problem is that when a woman says she not attracted the guy will interpret her words based on his definition of attracted.
When in reality it’s something far worse. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 11:57:26 AM | Y'know, I'm an average looking guy and have often felt the frustration of not being able to snag the gorgeous women who often catch my eye.
But, the simple truth is that if I was a tall, hot looking guy, I would certainly focus my attention on female hotties, and likely wouldn't give the plain Jane, average women the time of day.
Sound harsh? Well, I'm just being honest. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 7:33:38 PM |
Too many times have women passed me up because I was just "Not attractive enough" yet they say they enjoyed the time out with me, had a laugh, felt comfortable but because I did not cut it in what they look for in looks, I am just not good enough to shine with a personality.
Looks first THEN substance is what they want. Ya I know so do men which is bound to be the comeback.
Just because I may not have a headful of thick black hair, 6-pack abs, and baby blue eyes does not mean I am not worth the time to be with. But unless you got them great looking eyes, that up to date wardrobe, nice shoes and pretty fit with a heasful of hair, you just will find it harder no matter if the women are average or hot...is life and is what us men have no choice but to accept.
Looks can come first, in the middle or at the end of the list...doesn't matter. Still has to be there for each individual.
It's not "attractive enough", its attraction period. Someone can enjoy hanging out with you, be comfortable and have laughs without any physical attraction. My personal comeback is hell yeah we want looks to our personal preference in addition to everything else.
And I don't buy it when the phrase "What one finds unattractive another will find attractive" because most times the majority of women today are attrcted to the same things about a man.
Not true. Some want blondes, some want tall men with a few pounds on them, some want Latin men, some want black men, some want something else, etc etc. There is no freaking one guy out there that we all want. Sorry but it's true....every woman is different, and they are attracted to what they are attracted to. I know this personally, what I like my friends wouldn't even notice and vice versa...out of about four of us, we all like dramatically different men to the point where we ask frequently how blind each one of us is based on what we like. | |
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Jelbee
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 8:23:41 PM | I honestly don't think that women are all attracted to the same things about a man. In my opinion (sorry guys,) but I've never seen something less appealing than five profile pictures of the guy with his shirt up displaying his six-pack abs. I would MUCH prefer a guy with a baby face, a bit of meat on him and some stubble ANY day, over an I-love-myself-6-pack body.
Stereotypically, why don't hot girls give the average guy the chance?
Pshh. For the same reason that those 6-pack ab jocks won't give a second glance to a girl who doesn't turn heads.
Welcome to the real world. ;) | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 9:22:28 PM | Most times...NOT ALL, women will end up with the same taste in men as their friends. Notice though I did say NOT ALL..have to be politically correct here and not generalize.
As I say the majority, which is not 5 out of 10 women more like 8 out of 10.
Anyhow they will most times end up with the same tatse in men somewhat no matter what. And usually ask them what they think of him. And for sure if 'the girl' say "He is ok" which is a polite way of saying "You can do better girl" you can bet she won't be giving that guy a chance.
But is life and yes the real world. It does suck for the average chump who is expected to approach women and get shot down in flames but shake it off and accept it.
I have approached hot women, gorgeous women for a laugh to entertain those who didn't have the courage to approach them. Just to prove I will get shot down..and boy do I ever.
But usually women will not give an average guy a chance anyhow, no maater if you have so much in common, she wants that hot guy she can look at and say "Wow" not say "Why do I like him again"
And I see alot of average looking women with really good looking guys. Not sure where you people are not seeing it but hot guys are what ALL women here in Toronto want. And most times they get them, no matter if she is average or hot.
Hot women? They only want the best and always want the best on the outside first. And why not, when they have the best on the outside..right? | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 9:25:21 PM | | Hmmm... Why does she not give you a chance? What is a chance? Is she supposed to spend an entire evening with you while not knowing you? Is it that you didn't like the way she looked at you? Was it perhaps the fact that your initial conversation wasn't interesting? Who knows. But I think Hot women will definitely give an average guy a chance, but the average guy has to come with some confidence and some joie de vivre. I think although attractive women may turn more heads, they do come with insecurities as well, and if they aren't polite enough to interact with you, then you are better off in the long run. If your current approach isnt working, try something new. Mix it up. But don't get discouraged, nor change yourself to the point of being someone you aren't. I think the better approach is finding the above average woman that once you get to know her, her 8/10 becomes an 11/10 and she not only gets better looking the more you know, but you will truly enjoy being around her in a confident and more equal relationship.. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 9:32:45 PM | | Most women enjoy and find guys putting on an act is impressive, being someone you are not. Go out and people watch. Watch guys approach women and see the dumb acts they put on that women just love. That has boggled my mind because you are not seeing what the guy is like really, you are seeing an act. Being yourself will definitely get more women to not give a guy a chance. And ya I know..not all of us are like this. Is that not what every person says regardless? Of course. Saying the truth is wrong, saying what someone wants to hear is right. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 9:36:20 PM | | I would like to reverse the subject why do nice looking men never give a chance to the average looking woman...They want a barbie type woman and and the average woman never stands a chance because all the nice looking men want to have a fantasy woman | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 9:39:42 PM | | I totaly agree with the cant judge a book by its cover theory I say this all the time to the men that do not want to take the time to know how I am...I certainly think men can be very shallow on what they want in looks and do not want to take the time to know the average woman and how she is.. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/10/2006 9:49:40 PM | As always things get turned around and becomes "But what about us" for the women. You all hold the power in dating...you hold the aces. You make the final decision and it is all how you use that power. The power to pick and choose, I wish I had that power. But I am a guy.
I see tons of average looking women with great looking guys. I see and know lots of average looking women who want those hot guys. They look at us average chumps and think "I can do better than that" | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/11/2006 7:29:50 AM | ^^^ We hold the power? WTF? It's just dating. What exactly would we hold the aces for? I've been shot down by guys. I've dated guys who've disappeared on me. It happens to everyone. Being rejected isn't unique to one's gender.
Champ, you're not a bad looking guy at all but there's a lot of negativity in your posts which reflect your personality and that might be what turns women off. If you go up to a woman expecting to be rejected, then ya...you're probably going to get rejected. You're not even going up to her with a serious intention of picking her up. It's for laughs, as you've said. Why would a woman want to go out with you if you don't even feel positive about yourself? | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/11/2006 7:46:52 AM | Why is it that we guys are so expected to be all positive, confident, happy, smiling when it comes to being shot down alot? Are we supposed to have some sort of body armour that rebounds off the rejection?
Also where does the confidence come from? Is it bought in a store? Do you just wake up one day and have it? No..it is built up fro successes. Seems alot of people forget that when you get rejected alot over a length of time, it does make you step back at times and say is it really worth it. Maybe what they say is true.
And when you get dates alot over time you don't hesitate and so the odd rejection does not bother you.
Geez I never knew rejection made you think positive and think right on she shot me down onto the next one...for a few years and then still be all into it.
I used to look at rejection as fun...sure why not, didn't want it to bring me down, but years later it started to set in that maybe they were right when they rejected me.
And then as the years go on why not hesitate unless for sure she will date you or for some reason you do think you have a chance and go for it.
This year I think I may have approached 5 women as a total. And only one I thought I did have a chance with, the others? I knew for sure it was a waste of time not being in their league or their type. But listening to all the talk from people saying you never know, I tried...and funny thing is...I got shot down.
See making it a laugh to get rejected also sometimes eases the feeling of it. Ya it sucks being shot down but joking about it afterwards and laughing is better than thinking "Great why did I bother"
Also why would a guy be serious about picking up a woman or asking her out when he more or less can tell from the getgo he has no chance. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/11/2006 9:40:06 AM | Champ: You're putting a lot of importance on things that aren't important. Confidence comes from within...you either have it or you don't and if you don't, then you have to work on that. Being accepted by women should not make you feel more comfident about yourself. It's not anyone's job to help you out in that sense.
You should be happy and enjoy life because you're lucky to have one, be healthy, etc.
If women reject you, so what? It has nothing to do with who you are or what's "wrong" with you because there's nothing wrong with you unless YOU feel there's something wrong with you. What women think, doesn't matter. I realize rejection is hard, however, you can't take it personally which is what you are doing. You've made jokes and games out of it but you do that because you're hurt.
You have to be happy all on your own before you can find someone to be happy with. Easier said then done, I know but very true.
Please don't think I'm trying to insult you or anything. I speak from experience. I was a very sad person and went through depression for quite a few years. I would get rejected and such because I was the unhappy person. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/11/2006 4:58:27 PM | WOW.......me....as a somewhat older woman, remember 30 years ago in high school....the rejection was abundant......the "cool, popular" crowd.......I was amongst it, but the latter part of it......I just was friends with the "hot chicks".......they all got the hotties. ( and may I say, some of my best friends are still beautiful, and they never flaunted it, they just were "luckier" than I, at the time )
We grew up with this stigma......but ya know, I just had my 30 year class reunion, and I'll be damned if those "gorgeous, althletic" men......haven't turned out to be.....just like my parents. Some bald, gray and fat.......
Rejection is always terrible.......but if you don't have the confidence in yourself going in.....you are doomed......if you DO have confidence in yourself going in....and get the "boot"......then it's there loss....not yours. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/11/2006 9:42:49 PM | Oh women ar4e not that evil I know, and although I may complain that they set their standards pretty high, but I also ahve to acknowledge them for doing that too.
Women have to weed out the losers and undesirables and of course guys who are wotthwhile will fall through those cracks along with the undesirables due to lacking in some areas. Is life.
Reason I make a joke out of rejection more now, is I went through a bitter and jaded stage, I let the comments "Unattractive, not dating material, no physical attraction" get to me for a few years, but then I said hey reality is that..reality. So you come to terms with it and accept it, and I make fun of my misfortunes and hey why not.
I am not down about it as when you get it for some long you are used to it basically.
And I know no matter what the girl looks like, or how she is, I am most times not her type because first impression is, how you look. But I know that I can become friends with women I meet no problem. And for so long I wanted one out of 1000 women I met to maybe like me more. Does not happen. Now I say, oh well I tried, life goes on, and I just go forward acceoting more and more rejection if I approach a woman.
But nowadays it is very rare. Usually if I have become friendly with someone and I know she would never date me I can feel comfortable saying "I want you" but I know I can't have her and so it becomes more a hamless joking conversation really.
Hey cheap thrills are better than no thrills I say. I will take being able to hug 10 women and flirt with them than being rejected by 10 women.
One friend put it good I am a good opener, great negotiator but a terrible closer....still to this day and that comment was made 12 years ago to me from a girl friend. | |
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Jelbee
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Joined: 11/23/2006
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/12/2006 1:49:23 AM | Holy freaking jaded.
I know for a fact that I'll be in a bar and I'll chat it up with a guy who makes my friends' noses wrinkle. Not ALL women judge based on first appearance.
Furthermore... "no matter what the girl looks like," my ass. I'd like to see you approach a woman in a bar who you consider "unnattractive" and see if you get "shot down." Perchance the types of women you approach are materialistic and self-absorbed. And perhaps YOU are overlooking the women who would be more appreciative of your finer qualities.
I've been rejected a dozen times or more when I've put myself out there, it HAPPENS. You, unfortunately, will not be EVERYONE'S type. But you'll eventually find someone whose type you are.
My point: Stop bashing my gender based on a few (or few thousand, according to you) who weren't into you. And chin up. Hell, I'm half your age, and I can concede that you're not a bad looking guy. So stop ****ing, and move along. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/12/2006 4:27:52 PM | | I have read a number of replies here and I have to disagree with a lot of the conclusions that have been made here. Just to use the old cliché that has been used here before "Don't judge a book by its cover". Yes, there are some women who are very physically attractive and are also snobby and have a very shallow belief system but in my experience it is not the majority of them. Actually, most of them are very nice people once you get to know them. The main thing to keep in mind is this: THEY'RE JUST PEOPLE! They have their own dreams, wishes, needs, feelings and they can be hurt just the same as anyone else. I've found they also don't want to be judged solely on their appearance anymore than we (us guys) do. Sure they love to be complimented now and then but if you put them up on a pedestal and think you don’t have a chance with them in my opinion you’ve already ruined your chances with them. Besides, any girl who is cool, down to earth and worth being with wouldn’t like that anyway because it would actually make her uncomfortable. Ultimately, if you just give these "hotties" half the chance you would like them to give you then you will find they're wonderful women. Try approaching them with this in mind and I bet you will find you have more in common with them than you think. Good luck fellas! | |
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