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 sassyaquarius

Joined: 4/10/2006
Msg: 416
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/27/2006 12:18:35 AM
A person who is average looking is probably above average in another area and only the chosen few actually see that... also, average and hot are totally subjective and based on individual tastes...
 Swampfox

Joined: 3/10/2005
Msg: 417
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Posted: 12/27/2006 12:32:12 AM

Average will always find it hard to date no matter what. Harder for the guy who has the average looks compared to the girl with the average looks. She can set her standards high and still get tons of dates.

Yea no kidding.
 DJChickie401

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 418
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Posted: 12/27/2006 5:35:43 AM
Ha. We're all average. The people who don't appear to be average to the rest of us are more than average only in their own heads, and have figured out a way to convince others that they are superior. It's all just an illusion.

Mindset, mindset, mindset.
 alexandria_gal

Joined: 9/4/2006
Msg: 419
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Posted: 12/27/2006 6:09:40 AM
People can be above average, average, or below average depending on the person who's doing the looking. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

My bf and I have this discussion all the time. We'll be on our walk. Some guy will look at me, and he'll say. "Did you notice that guy just looked at you". I'll say no, because I never notice. I'm either listening to my music if I'm alone, or looking at him, if we're together.

He'll tell me everyone looks at me. I always reply that isn't true. Guys who like short, curvy blondes will take the time to look at me. If they like tall exotic brunettes, they won't give me a second glance, they'll think "ick, not my type". No one is attractive to everyone.

It's all good.

 ulao

Joined: 6/10/2006
Msg: 420
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/27/2006 7:04:18 AM
A test was conducted at a university. They took a composite average of all the men, then all the women and produced the average person of each sex. This was done for the age of 25 I think..Then a survey to 100 people to see where the image ranged (1-10) mixed with other known good looking and not so good looking people. The average images had the highest score of 10.
 TheDancingQueen

Joined: 11/11/2006
Msg: 421
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/27/2006 10:20:16 AM
It's no secret, if you want to stand out in a girl's mind, you have to stand out from the crowd.

People who are very good at one thing like music or art or sports tend to stand out from the crowd. It's why musicians and jocks get so many girls. Some people have a good sense of humor. Some can do magic tricks.

Having an average life, where you excel at nothing, is going to hurt you more than being average looking.
 Brian_Thorn

Joined: 9/7/2006
Msg: 422
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Posted: 12/27/2006 1:51:17 PM

It's no secret, if you want to stand out in a girl's mind, you have to stand out from the crowd.

People who are very good at one thing like music or art or sports tend to stand out from the crowd. It's why musicians and jocks get so many girls. Some people have a good sense of humor. Some can do magic tricks.

Having an average life, where you excel at nothing, is going to hurt you more than being average looking.


Displaying the intelligence of the average Mollusk won't get you to far either. Celebrating the moral turpitude of the average Hollywood Agent doesn't bode well for your future either. Having an average life, where you don't pin your future on one particular set of ridiculously inconsequential, albeit superficial assets and/or ideals, is going to hurt you alot less than an average set of tata's and the opinions of an average Californian Bimbo who has yet to experience enough life to come off sounding as anything other than vapid. But hell, what do I know? By all means apparently being judgemental, high handed, and superficial is all it takes to get ahead these days right? Its what's on the outside that matters right?

Have fun
 SammyBaby21

Joined: 7/25/2006
Msg: 423
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/28/2006 8:43:41 PM

It's no secret, if you want to stand out in a girl's mind, you have to stand out from the crowd.

People who are very good at one thing like music or art or sports tend to stand out from the crowd. It's why musicians and jocks get so many girls. Some people have a good sense of humor. Some can do magic tricks.

Having an average life, where you excel at nothing, is going to hurt you more than being average looking.


...Wow. Just... wow.

Anyway... So being a supposed "hot girl" [with a brain may I add] I may be able to shed some light on this discussion.

Girls do give chances to the average looking guys. The thing is, the average guys their picking all have something in common - they all are extremely attractive in one way or another.

For example, a lot of the guys I've dated have been pretty average looking, but they all either exude confidence, are hilarious, or a bit mysterious. They are mostly outgoing, outspoken, and very well articulated.

You want a 'hot girl' to give you a chance? Show her the millions of other reasons she should be dating you, like the fact that you can make her laugh until she cries, or that you can debate world issues with each other. And for the love of God PLEASE don't be clingy or annoying, like bugging her 50 times a day about why she doesn't call or want to meet up with you right away. Give a girl some time, which will show her your patient, but not enough time so she forgets about you :P
 azraiderfan57

Joined: 8/19/2006
Msg: 424
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/29/2006 10:32:43 PM
Generally speaking, your income generally determines the type of woman you will get. More often than not, you get what you can afford. Water seeks it's own level. Etc Etc Etc.

It's not often that you see a really rich guy with a really ugly girl on his arm. But you quite often see really amazing girls on the arm of homely but rich guys. Look at rock stars -- some of the ugliest guys on earth, but they get laid more than you can ever hope to. Money and power will attract women just as much as a 12" penis. Work hard on your career. Strive high. Don't settle. Stay hungry. Girls upgrade all the time to a richer man and guys do it to with hotter and younger girls.
 Many001

Joined: 12/1/2006
Msg: 425
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/30/2006 3:04:25 AM
I've dated many average looking men too...looks mean very little if the guy lacks intelligence or humour. I've dated guys that would be considered "hot" pretty boys, but they had no personality at all, and because of that I wasn't attracted to them. Perhaps initially, but after speaking to them the attraction was lost. Some of the men I have been most attracted to have been totally average Joe's. For instance...I have the hots for someone I work with that's almost 20 years older than me, he has a belly, and dresses terribly, but is soooooo smart and funny and powerful. He is definitely average...but I am crazy attracted to him. Almost uncontrollable.
 classandsass

Joined: 12/23/2006
Msg: 426
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/30/2006 6:18:47 AM
I agree 100% shore66. I've found that whether they are male or female..."hot" = way too much ego for me.
 classandsass

Joined: 12/23/2006
Msg: 427
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/30/2006 6:20:47 AM
Sorry Champ...I totally disagree...hot men don't consider average women any more than hot women consider average men...its only the lucky who make it...lol.
 bluelight139

Joined: 7/4/2006
Msg: 428
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Posted: 12/30/2006 6:41:21 AM
The thing with hot girls is they get hit on by all guys so they probably hear the same boring sh*t all the time and are always looking for that 1 person that has everything they want. In all honesty you should be looking for someone who is right for YOU. You shouldn't be looking for approval from her you should be basing your choices on who YOU would like to meet and you really can't do that from a couple of hot pictures or some bulls**t that took someone forever to think up and type out.
 brandiw

Joined: 4/6/2006
Msg: 429
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Posted: 12/30/2006 7:48:40 AM
Ummmmmmm, you're complaining that hot girls are so shallow that they won't date you...but your criteria for dating them is just as shallow....

Wow...
 The_Champ_Is_Here

Joined: 10/12/2006
Msg: 430
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/30/2006 8:09:15 AM
I have never dated what many would call hot,, the few women I have dated were what you would call average looking.
For us average looking guys, it is alot of competing with the hot guys and I personally doubt an average looking guy could get a hot looking woman over a hot looking guy.
 DJChickie401

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 431
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Posted: 12/30/2006 8:14:40 AM
This thread is full of some qualities I find totally unattractive, or "un-hot". Extreme ego, generalization, entitlement, and self-deprecation.

All are generally dating repellant. People, check yourselves.
 The_Champ_Is_Here

Joined: 10/12/2006
Msg: 432
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 12/30/2006 8:51:15 AM

This thread is full of some qualities I find totally unattractive, or "un-hot". Extreme ego, generalization, entitlement, and self-deprecation.

All are generally dating repellant. People, check yourselves.


So what you might be saying is, all of us guys have a chance with any woman? Or we should take a chance with any woman? Even if they shoot you down one by one just laugh at it and continue to approach and see what happens?
I dunno but approaching say 30 women and not one giving me the time of day tells me that I may not be their type..no?
Then from there I would look at these women and see what they all have in common somewhat and then not ask those women out or approach those type of women. Is why I said I would not bother with hot women because I would know I was not their type and so they would not give me a chance, being an average looking guy. Or is this wrong?
 DJChickie401

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 433
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Posted: 12/30/2006 9:06:22 AM
So what you might be saying is, all of us guys have a chance with any woman? Or we should take a chance with any woman?

Basically that's what about 80 other people besides myself in this thread alone might have been saying. What I was saying in the previous post is basically that some people have those qualities to blame for not dating many at this point in their lives. It's so much easier to blame the person (s) you've dated for the problems you face than to actually look at yourself and ask what you're contributing to your own fate.

Even if they shoot you down one by one just laugh at it and continue to approach and see what happens?

Yes. But the trick is to have the confidence to not let it bother you and continue. If all you're trying to do is prove that you're not going to succeed a bunch of times, then go rent a movie instead and do something more productive with your time.

I dunno but approaching say 30 women and not one giving me the time of day tells me that I may not be their type..no?

What it tells you is that you have a vibe that says "don't bother with me because not even I think I am worthy of you" and women are obviously responding to that in droves. It's quite extreme in your thread posts so in person it's gotta be unbearable.

Then from there I would look at these women and see what they all have in common somewhat and then not ask those women out or approach those type of women. Is why I said I would not bother with hot women because I would know I was not their type and so they would not give me a chance, being an average looking guy. Or is this wrong?

Yes, it's wrong - and a bazillion people have already said that. Unless you believe it's wrong, in which case you are totally right because your attitude makes any other result impossible.

You're just trying to get us all to say "ok Champ, we give up. You're not worthy." But it doesn't matter what we think. It matters what YOU think. If you're mindset is that it's not worth it, then you're right....because you believe it. I think this is a great way for you to get a perpetual redundant pep talk from everyone here, and for people to say you're good looking and a great catch and ask you why you're single. Why else would you keep trying to prove people are wrong after they keep telling you what works?

Bottom line - and there's no long drawn out statistics or information about this: If your attitude sucks, then people aren't going to be into you. If you don't like yourself, no one else will either. Blame it on numbers, and classes and income and status all you want, but no one who isn't into themselves is gonna sell it to anyone else. You can argue it, you may not like it, you might agree with it. But it is what it is.
 The_Champ_Is_Here

Joined: 10/12/2006
Msg: 434
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Posted: 12/30/2006 9:23:24 AM
See I never knew any women or men who thought they were good enough for anyone. Never knew that was how to think. See when, I, myself get rejected and it happens alot, then I look at the type of women I seem to have been approaching. And no it does not have anything to do with how I come across I can bet on that. What I say on here and what I do are two different things.
I know what women I am so not their type, and some who I may be able to get IF I was not lacking something. But all in all I believe as a person each of us knows what we can and cannot get in terms of dating.
I know I could never get that beautiful hot redhead who comes into the store everyday, to go for a coffee with me. Not her type.
The latin girl who works with me, not her type.
Now maybe the Indian girl who shops all the time but then being very rusty on my approach I would hesitate because I would either talk too much or be too obvious.
Not approaching women much for years, it becomes harder I find to gather the courage up to approach someone. For me anyhow.
I know I am a great guy, BUT I may not seem that way to many women I would approach.
I'll approach tons this coming year to maybe shake the hesitation and fear and make it more a fun game of chance. Who knows. I will say I do feel better as a person now than I did a year ago. It is gettinbg my confidence back and courage to approach is what I have to work on now.
 strummer52

Joined: 10/9/2006
Msg: 435
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Posted: 12/30/2006 9:24:12 AM
hmmmmm. If all you want, is to date a hot girl, then break out the visa and dial up 1-976-hot-babe. If you want a relationship with a woman, you might want to consider some qualities other than good looks, like integrity, heart,humor,passion, (about life in general) because a couple of decades down the road "hot" is gonna fade into luke warm, and you better hope the person your sitting across the table from at dinner is someone you can talk to, and laugh with or you will find yourself alone,even while your with someone.
 Brian_Thorn

Joined: 9/7/2006
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Posted: 12/30/2006 9:31:07 AM
This thread is full of some qualities I find totally unattractive, or "un-hot". Extreme ego, generalization, entitlement, and self-deprecation.

All are generally dating repellant. People, check yourselves.


Meow! Retract those claws kitten lest you become the very thing you abhor. I guess it's a good thing that most Men prefer not to date furry domesticated mammals of the feline persuasion then huh? Apparently Hawt guys never give a chance to average looking kitties. Perhaps a seperate thread is in order. What's new tabbycat, meow, meow meow.

Have fun

PS: I thought posting pet pictures sans ower, was against the rules?
 Streamwise

Joined: 4/16/2006
Msg: 437
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Posted: 12/30/2006 9:55:12 AM
Dancing Queen wrote:
People who are very good at one thing like music or art or sports tend to stand out from the crowd. It's why musicians and jocks get so many girls.


So maybe I should put an album out. I'm serious, I have all the tools in place.

In fact stop wating my time on here and devote 100% of my free time to it?

Maybe a good New Years resolution!
 DJChickie401

Joined: 10/16/2005
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Posted: 12/30/2006 10:01:55 AM
PS: I thought posting pet pictures sans ower, was against the rules?

Yes, unless the posters on POF were absolutely beyond sick of seeing the owner and can call her picture up by pure annoying memory (that would be self-deprecation, lmao). AND if the pet was cuter than the owner (totally the truth)! It'll be back but I am sure everyone will appreciate the break.

Oh, and of course my rating pic is still up (sans ego).

: )
 Streamwise

Joined: 4/16/2006
Msg: 439
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Posted: 12/30/2006 10:04:34 AM

If you want a relationship with a woman, you might want to consider some qualities other than good looks, like integrity, heart,humor,passion, (about life in general) because a couple of decades down the road "hot" is gonna fade into luke warm, and you better hope the person your sitting across the table from at dinner is someone you can talk to, and laugh with or you will find yourself alone,even while your with someone.


And I should qualify my first post - what Strummer describes is really what I want. It also seems to be true that many of those with the potential for these qualities are focused on the superfical these days (as others have posted ladies have so much more choice these days - unless you're one of the guys that stand out like Dancing Queen pointed out).

It is sad but true that these days 80% of the women want 20% of the guys and I think that dynamic wasn;t the norm 40 oor 50 years ago (sort of a Hollywood/TV/Magizine factor skewing expectaions and what traits women value now as opposed to in the past)
 krashin2me

Joined: 12/23/2006
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Posted: 12/30/2006 10:36:19 AM
Thorn, you are truly a person of wisdom. This average guy salutes you

I have lived long enough to know everything you are saying is true. At the same time, Hot girls are people too. Everyone is free to choose based on whatever criteria they like. The young lady you responded to, let's face it, is a beautiful woman. However, in the end, the divorce rate for her and her friends will be the same as for us and ours.
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