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| Dangerous curves
Posted: 3/9/2007 12:51:47 AM | read any beauty book. The attraction that men have to curves has to do with WAIST TO HIP RATIO. its not about fat. a woman who is 100 lbs and has a .7 ratio and a woman who is 200 lbs and has a .7 ratio are both considered to be attractive.
someone who is 34-24-34 would be an american size 2, or even smaller (thanks to vanity sizing) so no themeasurements i gave are not too high. I'm not even that thin in the waist (embarrasing to admit)
"By 1990 the average hip measurement was 37 inches, while the average mannequins hip measured only 31 inches."
A mannequin is not a model....
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*Contemporary fashion model's measurements: 33-23-33"
thats only 1 inch off of what i gave...whats your point. i was right. its still a .7 ratio.
"On crunching the numbers, he discovered the women were getting both thinner and straighter, with less difference between their waist and bust or hip sizes."
Playboy models are NOT fashion models. And he is right, they are getting less curvy and more FAKE. ironicaslly, it is PLAYBOY models (not fashion models like Kate Moss, she is a fashion icon, but not a sex icon) that supposidly are the standard of beauty, yet they are looking more and more like transexuals. America overall is becoming more tubular though. Fast food and processed food makes it harder to have a tiny waist and "womenly" proportions. You know all the artificial hormones in our foods? its repulsive. we are pretty much eating poison. Also, the fact that we are no longer corsetted from age 5 on has something to do with our waistlines getting bigger as well. | |
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| Dangerous curves
Posted: 3/9/2007 1:53:45 AM | hi
well am only small but by nature not by sliming. silly thing to do.
and am only looking for normal guys. not mr macho. had them types and always turn out to be arsholes or players
hugs
misty
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| Dangerous curves
Posted: 3/9/2007 12:41:36 PM |
read any beauty book. The attraction that men have to curves has to do with WAIST TO HIP RATIO.
I wouldn't say *any* book... but Google was my friend and found what you didn't provide. Apparently Kate Moss has the 0.7 ratio, too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waist-hip_ratio
Not all the facts are clearly cited in this wikipedia article, but it's interesting. I guess the theory of 0.7 ratio was only proposed in 1993. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/11/2007 8:29:24 AM | | Like I said women are shallow too, OK, would you date a guy who is 4 ft. tall? would you date a guy with zits all over there face? Would you date a guy with bad taste in fashion? Would you date a guy with a hair color that you are not looking for? Would you date a guy who is fair skinned Hey the freakin shit goes both ways. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/11/2007 9:17:23 AM | ^^Ah yes BUT women can get away with it and are expected to because we are the ones who for centuries still do the approaching and still do the impressing by spending money on them, buying a ring that costs half your salary to say I want to marry you.
So even though yes women can be shallow too, it is acceptable in the dating scene. Men on the otherhand, not so good. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/11/2007 9:51:52 AM |
dude it's unfortunate but a reality....hot women look for hot men for their "genes" and potential mate....
Honestly, I don't think people are concerned of how "attractive" their kids will look, bercause if the kid turned out ugly, he/she would only have a face a mother could love. LOL. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/11/2007 10:54:46 AM |
dude it's unfortunate but a reality....hot women look for hot men for their "genes" and potential mate.... Honestly, I don't think people are concerned of how "attractive" their kids will look, bercause if the kid turned out ugly, he/she would only have a face a mother could love. LOL.
Actually, I think the "animal" part of our brain does work this way - it's not a rational thought process. It's the stuff of curves, pheromones, basic instinct, and one of the reasons "hotness" is hard to quantify.
The (evolutionary) theory is that it's to assure that the species will survive. It's why bees are attracted to certain flowers and not others - bees are not making rational choices, nor did they necessarily learn which flowers are the best from their parents or magazine covers, but the bees who have that trait will likely reproduce and pass on the trait to their offspring. What's strange with this theory, is that most of the "genetic programming" we all have in us was useful in an environment that was much different from the one we're in now. There weren't medical doctors to help deliver babies, or premature baby wards, or growth hormones, etc. We're still genetically programmed for attraction for life in a much rougher environment (life in the wild).
A lot of people have been classifying this kind of attraction as "superficial" or "shallow" - I think it's wrong to demean it. You could argue that sexual orientation (whether you are attracted to men or women) is shallow for the same reasons. It's a physical attraction that most people can't explain or change rationally.
If an attraction is to things like how muscular or heavy a person is, if she has a big chest or a small waste, or the color of her hair, or if he even *has* hair, we label it as "shallow" -- but if you're turned on/off by those things, it's what's in your programming and you can't really change it (just like you can't change your sexual orientation).
This factor of hotness is animal, and I agree with the above statement that people do look for mates for genetic traits, but it's not something we are really conscious of. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/13/2007 4:59:13 PM | | I laugh at the girls who are so focused on a guys "apparent" confidence, many of these same guys are self-absorbed and become abusive when married and then the woman cries boo hoo. He changed on me. The truth is you never knew him you just bought the facade, however this seems a good match as both are shallow and deserve each other. | |
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fuzzle
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Joined: 4/27/2006
Msg: 653 | |
| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/16/2007 11:46:42 AM | Gotphish:
No, you did NOT say "women are shallow too"... you said "women are shallow"......huge difference. Then you further went on to imply that men are not shallow and that ONLY women are, by stating, and I quote: "If they were more like us guys then they would see the inside of the person and not the shell."
Now as to this:
<div class="quote"> OK, would you date a guy who is 4 ft. tall? would you date a guy with zits all over there face? Would you date a guy with bad taste in fashion? Would you date a guy with a hair color that you are not looking for?
I think a better question is would the OP? He's the one who is complaining about having to date average women (not even below average, just average) and he is a GUY! Since he's complaining about having to date average women, I highly doubt that he'd be willing to date someone fitting the description you've given. So yeah, exactly why were you bashing WOMEN for being shallow??? Funny how you now say..."THE FREAKIN SHIT GOES BOTH WAYS!" Yes, it does! Glad to hear that you now recognize that fact.
You sound kind of bitter towards women...any particular reason? | |
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| Well bud i agree with ya
Posted: 3/17/2007 9:26:16 AM | okay, and the south is made up of low class rednecks. If i lived in the south, the fact that I'm not a redneck wouldnt make me an idiot simply because the majority of the population is idiotic or lame...
And you are basing your knowledge on those from the south on???? You really need to do some serious soul searching, girl. I almost said young lady, but no "lady" of any age would talk to people the way you have! You have to be the most self-centered, know-it-all showing pure ignorance that I have seen on this sight in all of my time being on here! Maybe you should look at your message that you said you get from the troops in Iraq. Look closely at the last word you typed, and reflect on the image you send to people! Whatever you do, you definitely need to learn how to show respect for other people! Based on the comments of yours that I have read, I'd score you so far below average that you'd have to work really hard to make it to average!
BTW, the HEALTHY waist to hip ratio is .8, not .7! There is such thing as being too skinny, but then, someone who has shown the high degree of ignorance that you have wouldn't understand that!
Philt,
I happen to think you look pretty dang good in that uniform! (Like the other pics as well! lol!) I am one who grew up with a lot of military people in my life, and UNLIKE SOME, I have the highest degree for them! The same goes for those who are in public service and do it because they love it instead of for the pay and glory. I guess the little one hasn't stopped long enough to think about what her life would be like if it weren't for those of us who don't live up to her caliber of things! Perhaps she needs to consider that before she continues to bash people and make more enemies than she already has! | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 9:38:08 AM | Men pick and choose who they approach. Women sometimes do the approaching. It's all pretty much even Champ... you've got "hot" potential, so what's makes you unattractive? It's your "tude", dude.
We all have them. Attitudes, that is. And I think it defines more of what we find attractive than what photographically others may point out as appealing features.
If someone is unhappy, bitter, angry, sad, conceited, superficial, insecure, shallow... these are all unattractive veils that overshadow whatever facial or physical beauty they may have.
And the opposite is also true. If you're happy, self-content, humble, caring, positive, fun... people like being around you, you have a beautiful interior. It shows in your smile, your walk, your words -- everything. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 9:44:28 AM | OMG, my friend billbutler, why have you not already snatched this woman up! I checked out her profile, so I know you know her. Wow! She has just become my role model!! lol! Seriously, little girl who has made so many enemies, you need absorb what she says here and check out what this "lady" says on her profile! You might learn a thing or two!
love ya, bill!
BTW, has anyone realized that the OP (jazzytrumpeter) has left the building? This thread IS two years old, after all! lol! And still the debate goes one! What a shallow world in which we live!! lol! | |
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fuzzle
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Joined: 4/27/2006
Msg: 658 | |
| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 9:48:42 AM |
It does go both ways BUT women can get away with it, men cannot. We do the approaching, you do the picking and choosing of who is worth it.
I beg to differ Champ. We (women) also approach and suffer rejection, don't know why you would assume that only men approach and only women do the choosing but you are way, way wrong, bud.
As always, Janet is right...go Janet!!! | |
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Joined: 2/25/2007
Msg: 659 | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 10:00:07 AM | Of course Janet is right..she is a woman, and women are always right..never wrong. I learned that years ago. Men do wrong..women can do no wrong. Is just how it goes.
Go Janet...you are so right. My "tude" is the unattractive part of me, when in fact I have been told that my personality is what shines, but if I was more attractive to look at then dating would be better for me.
Hey just going by what was said to me in my early 20's and now late 30's. As a few women on POF told me, image is everything, if the image is not there, the personality will never be known because the woman will not care.
I never believed that but now I am beginning to.
I asked a few women that if I went out and blew $2000-$3000 on clothes, that would make things better? Their answer, "I bet if you followed fashion trends and wore the clothes women like to see on men, you would not have a hard time dating."
Interesting I thought. But is true if the women do not find the outside attractive, they sure are not going to want to get to know what is on the inside. Human nature. | |
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fuzzle
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Joined: 4/27/2006
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 10:11:51 AM | I asked a few eomen that if I went out and blew $2000-$3000 on clothes, that would make things better? Their answer, "I bet if you followed fashion trends and wore the clothes women like to see on men, you would not have a hard time dating."
Maybe you should consider the source hon, clothes don't make the man! I have no idea what kind of women you are asking but I would suggest they are the wrong kind.
You can spend all the money you want on clothes, but if a bitter, crummy attitude comes out when you open your mouth, you've just wasted 2 or 3 grand. I don't know how much Donald Trump or Bill Gates spend on their clothes but I assume it's probably a fair bit and I wouldn't date either one of them, nothing about either of them interests me. Furthermore, if someobdy just wants to date me because of what I'm wearing, I wouldn't be interested in dating them either..... | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 10:21:29 AM | | I agree, Champ! Besides, the only problems I have when reading your profile is the non-religious part (I'm Southern Baptist), the fact that you live in Canada (I'm in the south), and that you took down the picture of you with Shania! That must have been too cool meeting her! As for myself, I'd LOVE to meet Sam Elliott!! Now there is one HOT man! Okay, Jon Bon Jovi makes two, but I like him only because to listen to him, he doesn't realize how hot he is!! | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 10:37:09 AM | | Champ, you learned that years ago from your mother -- before you ever even thought about dating. But its time to grow up and be a man and cut those apron strings that keep you a little boy. And others won't understand what I'm saying, but I know you do. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/17/2007 11:06:58 AM | | Haha Janet is always a good laugh....but see when someone has always got good luck in dating, can pick and choose who they want to date, of course they will think everyone will be able to do the same. Which I understand for most yes, everyone will have good luck and everyone will have no problems dating if they are what the other person wants I know. | |
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| Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 5/28/2007 6:27:01 PM | Y do hot guys never give ugly betty's a chance huh? lmao but honestly i would jus like to say it may just be the guys personality i date ugly men all the time. Lol but thats beside the point i figure myself very good looking and i never get asked out on dates by good or ugly lookin men so wat is the probelm here? Maybe its me lol. And as per the stalking statement ,as a victim of every man i go out on a date with turing into a stalker . i would jus like to say it is true lol girls do not like guys showing up at their houses unannounced or callin a million times or sayin i love u after the first date. its a lil creepy no matter who u r. So the only advice i would have for an average joe lookin for a step up from the ugly betty's of the world, just dont be creepy. make sure u aint got rancid breath and go for it. thats all it really is not that complicated . ps u will probaly get rejected many times lol but eventually u wiiiiiiillll get lucky! | |
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