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2Soxx
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Msg: 26 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 8:49:57 AM |
we even have digital you know
ah yes..........John Logie-Baird, blame him and while we're at it lets give that barsteward Alexander Graham Bell a right good knocking too, blimey! Bad Enough John Dunlop got the world moving too not too mention John MacAdam upon who's product the afore mentioned Dunlop's product performs! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 8:55:24 AM | Didn't have to wait long for this to become a pro-Scotland thread, did we?
May I point out that Bell DID NOT invent the telephone - he has been proven to be yet another cheating Sweaty, like the skier!! | |
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2Soxx
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Msg: 28 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:04:03 AM | Msg 27
your posts are repetitive, I was sitting here with a friend making odds (I said a hundred to one on that you'd post within 5 minutes of my post.....how good am I????) on how long it would take YOU to jump in with your ITV/BBC repeat comments, which, by the way, are completely inaccurate but I've come to expect that response from a sullen sassanach! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:36:10 AM | Once again, Soxx, you post a comment referring to the inaccuracy of a previous post, and you are unable to demonstrate why the post was inaccurate. If you are unable to support your comments, perhaps it's time to stop making them? Unless, by some miracle, you can actually start backing up your comments with facts?
FYI The telephone was invented by Meucci....Bell stole the patent. Google his name, and check it out. | |
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2Soxx
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Msg: 30 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:40:00 AM |
you post a comment referring to the inaccuracy of a previous post, and you are unable to demonstrate why the post was inaccurate. If you are unable to support your comments, perhaps it's time to stop making them? Unless, by some miracle, you can actually start backing up your comments with facts?
Because Gary, its a lie, a fabrication of the truth.
As for back up try these two:
http://sln.fi.edu/franklin/inventor/bell.html
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http://www.privateline.com/TelephoneHistory/History1.htm
It would be good if you stopped being so self righteous! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:43:35 AM | So, after viewing those links, do you still claim that Bell invented the telephone, even after that honour has been awarded elsewhere?
Er.... the links still make the false claim about Bell...check Meucci's name on google.
BTW I'm still waiting for you to explain your accusations on another thread, or is it another case of you making statements without having the necessary facts? | |
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2Soxx
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Msg: 32 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:46:57 AM | Gary, are you blind or stupid?
Every Encyclopedia in the English language list Alexander Graham Bell as THE INVENTOR OF THE TELEPHONE.
Are you now going to argue with Collins, Britanica, Microsoft and every other major publisher?
Give it up, accept that the Scots have made a miraculous contribution to science and invention and then move on! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:51:59 AM | Soxx Check this out. It's part of the US congess Resolution on the matter.
"Whereas Meucci was unable to raise sufficient funds to pay his way through the patent application process, and thus had to settle for a caveat, a one year renewable notice of an impending patent, which was first filed on December 28, 1871;
Whereas Meucci later learned that the Western Union affil-iate laboratory reportedly lost his working models, and Meucci, who at this point was living on public assistance, was unable to renew the caveat after 1874;
Whereas in March 1876, Alexander Graham Bell, who conducted experiments in the same laboratory where Meucci’s materials had been stored, was granted a patent and was thereafter credited with inventing the telephone;
Whereas on January 13, 1887, the Government of the United States moved to annul the patent issued to Bell on the grounds of fraud and misrepresentation, a case that the Supreme Court found viable and remanded for trial;
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Whereas Meucci died in October 1889, the Bell patent ex-pired in January 1893, and the case was discontinued as moot without ever reaching the underlying issue of the true inventor of the telephone entitled to the patent; and
Whereas if Meucci had been able to pay the $10 fee to main-tain the caveat after 1874, no patent could have been issued to Bell: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the life and achievements of Antonio Meucci should be recognized, and his work in the invention of the telephone should be acknowledged.
September 25, 2001
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FAV7\092501\092501.045"
Sorry to bore everyone with the facts.
I still await your explanations re my alleged inconsistencies on the other thread. | |
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Joined: 4/11/2006
Msg: 34 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:53:08 AM | Whichever way you look at it, the Scots and the English have benefitted from the Union, despite the inevitable tensions that may sometimes emerge.
Throughout the empire days, the Scots contributed arounf 40% of UK armed forces personnel and, as Soxx mentioned, have developed many ideas and invented a huge array of things that have benefited the country.
It's not all one way though.. if it were, they would have buggered off long ago. The revenue generated in London and beyond subsidises many things the scots take for granted that us english see nowt of.. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:53:43 AM | 1849 Antonio Meucci, an Italian living in Havana, demonstrates a device later called a telephone. (The demonstration involves direct electrical connections to people.)
1854 Meucci demonstrates an electric telephone in New York
1860 Meucci demonstrates his telephone on Staten Island
2 June 1875 Alexander Graham Bell first transmits voice.
The modern telephone is the result of work done by many hands, all worthy of recognition of their addition to the field. Only in the last ten years, however, has the British government announced that it now recognises (primarily for educational purposes) Antonio Meucci as the 'first inventor' of the telephone.
If you go to wikipedia there is more on this subject.
Edit:ah well that was a waste of my time cheers Gary !!! | |
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2Soxx
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Msg: 36 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 9:59:31 AM | For Gary who is a big fan of "Google"
Search on: who invented the telephone
you'll find that the very first search result says Alexander Graham Bell
As does every encyclopedia............I'm beginning to detect a benign sense of jealousy please say it ain't so?  | |
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Joined: 4/11/2006
Msg: 37 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:02:45 AM | The Brits have always been good at inventing things.. (scots and english)
It's just a pity we arn't as good at manufacturing them and selling them across the world.. we should go into partnership with Japan and make a killing!! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:02:52 AM | Actually Soxx, it's not like you to miss a word out, but if you insert the word "REAL" into that thread search, you'll get the correct answer!
Did you bother to read MSG 33 and 35? If you don't wish to check information that is provided, you'll only continue to make yourself appear ridiculous. But, let's face it - you're pretty good at doing that, given your inability to respond to direct requests.
And please don't infer that posters are stupid!! | |
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2Soxx
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Msg: 39 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:05:28 AM | Arguing with ALL the major encylopedia publishers is what is termed being ridiculous, my son!
Still...........I assume that as you can only pick on the telephone issue that you accept the true greatness of the many other Scottish pioneers, inventors and scientists? Yes?
And please don't infer that posters are stupid!!
by the same token, please do not infer that posters are sweaty either, there's a good chappy now run along! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:10:56 AM | If you check this link(its free) the invention of the telephone
should become more clear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone
And theres no point trying to dispute the facts,Wikipedia is considered
the Number 1 encyclopedia in print or online.
I dont think anyone is disputing Bell played a huge part in the telephones
invention,but respect should be given to those who with their earlier
contributions enabled him to be the first to transmit the human voice
Nuff Said | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:11:10 AM | MSG 39 Yes, as well as acknowledging the cheating antics of that particular Scot, I can see that his non-criminal countrymen have done quite well.
Er...Sweaty is not a description...it's slang for Jocks (Sweaty socks). Good pun on your name, funnily enough!
I didn't bring up the telephone issue.....upon examining the posts, I discover that the subject was raised by.....O my God!! by YOU, Soxx!!
I'd be careful in future about ramming your countrymen down our throats - some aren't as good as they seem! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:12:32 AM | Have a look at this site
http://www.answers.com/topic/invention-of-the-telephone
It says both of you little boys are correct, they both helped in the invention of the Telephone, but there was others trying to come up with their own ideas and the Telephone is a product of all of the peoples different designs. | |
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2Soxx
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Joined: 2/14/2006
Msg: 45 | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:17:39 AM |
And theres no point trying to dispute the facts,Wikipedia is considered
the Number 1 encyclopedia in print or online.
By whom, exactly? You? Oh I see..........I'm a believer! Honest Guv!
Msg 42
Errrrr I mentioned Alexander Graham Bell, NOT the telephone...holy batcakes it was non-other than Gary who mentioned the telephone. You should be in the Labour party mate, your ability to lie knows no bounds! 
You've successfully bored the livin' crap outta me, I'm off to get showered and go out and have some fun with my partner this evening. I'm sure you'll have just as much fun here | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:18:43 AM | Er Kez..if you read that page which you kindly provided, it clearly states that Meucci is accepted as being the first inventor of the telephone. It also clearly states that Bell re-invented Meucci's device.
This was all decided in 2002 - I suggest that people buy some new books from the nice door-to-door salesman!!
You know all about lying, though, don't you??
Showering for your partner? Hope he's worth it!! | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:21:22 AM | ERM in America, it also states that many other people started off the process of inventing the telephone well before Meucci, so you could say he stole it from them. All I'm saying is that they all contributed to it, Bell being the last.
oh and Don't be so rude about my mum please. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2006 10:27:13 AM | Msg 45
Well yes by me and millions of other users
Try it yourself type a name or anything even Mars Bar
and i can guarantee its wikipedia will turn up in your first
page of search im surprised you have never heard of it
seeing as most cut and paste kings on here have.
On a lighter note John Logie Baird was not the sole inventor of the Television it
routes can be traced back to a russian Paul Nipkow,Philo Taylor Farnsworth and Vladimir Zworykin all helped invent the Television though nobody ever gives them credit. | |
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