| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/10/2006 6:07:25 PM | | I would like a so what called "independent woman" to give us all logic and PROOF in detail to how men are intimidated by independent women. They keep saying we are intimidated but there is no real logical proof when they say it. What does a man actually do to make you think he is intimidated? | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/10/2006 6:21:41 PM | I don't think it's a threat at all (at least not to me).
Actually it's a major turn on.
But I agree with the people who are indicating that there is a fine line between independance/power and feminism.
You cross that line when you speak out too loud and start segregating and offending. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/10/2006 11:32:55 PM | I can't say as i have found many men here threatened by women who are independant and educated. In fact most of the men i have talked to prefer not to be caregivers to someone. I think that mutual respect is the most important quality to have between people and that brings comes from understanding each other boundaries and strengths.
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/10/2006 11:38:25 PM | I just had to say that i really liked your story it was moving and shows another part that we miss out on in our lives and you are right it is the "wisdom of those that have already travelled the road". I was blessed with knowing both sets of my grandparents as well as both my great-grandmothers and the gift of knowledge they gave me is PRICELESS....TY for your story
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/11/2006 3:41:50 AM | WOW!! Mr Piano's story WAS and IS very awe-inspiring---awesome as the kids say today!! In contrast to the bubble brained chick that began this thread the woman described in that life is all the things OP claims to be yet she DOES it and doesn't just think she's all that. I'll bet the word "intimidating" never has been applied to this mans wife, instead she probably inspires her husband onto things he might not have attempted on his own---and in an encouraging, supportative way. All the time she's most likely retained her unique individuality without being ****y about it.
Were we all more willing to "be there" for the other people in our lives stories like this would be the norm instead of such a rarity!!
Thanks for the story Mr Piano4te-----very nice!! | |
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Zedex
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/11/2006 4:09:38 PM |
why do they equate this with 'Feminisim??'
Ummm; because it usually is... What I'd like to know, however, is why can't they tolerate a man who has less? Men have done so forever, but not you gals; oh no, that just wouldn't be proper, now would it... | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/11/2006 4:33:42 PM |
"...because they're usually ugly. Attractive women don't usually need to be very independent. Look at the top female C.E.O.'s, they're educated and independent and they are all ugly!"
sorry dude - not very convincing. And no one checks out male C.E.O.s to find out if they are ugly or not.
Thanks for the grammer lesson. Apparently you've had your face in a book instead of on a magazine. Which proves my point even futher. Homely women are smart and independent.
as for the top male C.E.O.'s they have money and hot women! they don't need looks.
An independent women is claiming they don't need a man...but i have yet to meet a truly independent women. The chip always falls off their shoulder when the pressure gets to tough. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/11/2006 6:18:16 PM | JWA....
You're quite welcome. Glad to hear somebody was a moved as I was. It's those encounters in my life that I look for every day. Like I said, I especially like listening to the elders.
The statement really is true......'Behind every successful man is a GOOD woman'.....I totally believe that.....but some have let their egos get the better of them, to believe simply because the word WOMAN is there, it applies to all......it doesn't.....Boy is there a huge difference.......And they are getting fewer and fewer as the generations come along. The SMARTEST, MOST INTELLIGENT women I ever met in my life were the one's without so much as a college education.
I read the cover story of Newsweek magazine a couple of months ago called "The Trouble With Boys". It talked about how boys are failing out an an ALARMING rate now in high schools, and women now outnumber the men in college. The reason was this......forty years ago, and initiative to change curricullums in schools to help girls better. Which, I never understood - because I can still remember a girl named Laura doing PRETTY good without so much 'specializing' when we did flash card drills together....
The bottom line now, is that girls educations got the emphasis since the feminist movement took over.....the PROBLEM however, is that the same generation of feminists had KIDS....and, it's almost sounding as if the women who HAD the boys just decided they WERE boys, so WHY BOTHER, and that their education wasn't as important as their DAUGHTERS....Because the education actually starts at HOME....it is NOT the responsibility of the school systems.....In the end, it's the PARENT who is responsible for whether their kid GETS their homework or not........The man hatred started even then.......hmmmmmmm........Pardon me....but....weren't WOMEN supposed to have ALL the answers? Couldn't they do it so much BETTER than men? So how is it that the majority of kids NOW in SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS....the MAJORITY being given custody TO THE MOM....can't seem to have the answer in regards to their SON!!! Or is it just malicious neglect of the very sons they have because they were BOYS!! Boys that they claim need RIDALIN because they just can't handle their ENERGY LEVELS simply for being BOYS....Do you know HOW MANY PhD'd moms I have talked to who tell me their kid has ADD?????? While they sit at a computer......There was a REASON a DAD was needed around the house.........Apparently all the single moms who chased away the man in their life didn't quite have it all together in the first place......Intimidated by one of these educated geniuses???? I'm ready to send em to HRS for neglect......LOL | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 8/11/2006 8:39:32 PM | I like a well educated intelligent women. What I dont like is a lady that uses this against me. I like it when a women knows what they want; it's less trouble to me. girly girls are fantastic and so are financially responsible ones. :)
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 10/27/2006 10:26:17 AM | i can barely read this your killin me! im pissin myself you must be an absolute blast to hang around with.
jeff. oh! and p.s its a control thing, men lik....LOVE to control women because we know deep down inside we are inferior to them. some men place women on a pedistal and others(like myself) just treat people with respect. a woman is not something to be feared. a woman should be admired. anyhow my brain is thinking faster than i can type so...toodles | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 10/27/2006 10:31:36 AM | I have a female friend in Norway who thinks the same way. She has a Master's degree. She said guys would run the other way when they find that out about her and go for the waitress types. To me it would be a godsend if I could find a woman who was financially independent and educated in her own right! Not that I'm looking for a sugar momma, but if both are making at least $30,000 a year each, then you can do a lot with that money!
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 10/27/2006 10:41:55 AM | First off.....let me say that i love an independent strong woman................and im NOTthe least bit intimidated by them......im a very aggressive male in business--and very grounded,,,,so it takes a lot to "shake my ground"....I do have ONE big problem with independent woman however................Why is it that independent woman claim to be an equal to a man...ie....financially,mentally and emotionally,,,,some even are so bold to say physically.....BUT HERES THE TEST--- when it comes time to paying their own way-then thats when we know they definitetly CANT run with the BIG DOGS-they expect the guy to pay......................thats where i lose some respect for them.....INDEPENDENT,,,,by definition,, INCLUDES NOT being DEPENDENT on a man paying your way 9 times out of 10..............All you SELF PROCLAIMED INDEPENDENT WOMAN would be far better off telling it like it is.............Just say your semi-independent............then i will be more than happy to flip the bill..........In other words....if you want the BIG DOG title of being called MISS INDEPENDENT.......then follow thru with all that goes with the title !!!!---one of which is paying ur own way,,,,,etc.
Thanks for reading.....Anthony | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 10/27/2006 1:01:07 PM | | Sanschele I consider myself an educated, independent woman and I haven't found that men are threatened by me UNLESS it's in a business setting and I'm in charge. And even then it's not a rule but an exception. That is a whole different ballgame. In life I don't hide my intelligence but I don't flog them with it either. In my experience I have found most men appreciate an intelligent woman who can hold her own in a conversation. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 10/27/2006 1:32:35 PM | I like strong intelligent men. They are not threatened by me. Yes, I do threaten some men...and I like that because atleast I don't have to waiste my time with them. Oh, and I have LOVED Men who have not had the education I have. I still love them. Also, I have loved men who make less money than me. That's not the important thing. The last man I was with who made less money and had less education, left because he thought he'd drag me down. It broke my heart. It was his spirit I fell in love with. Atleast he found the courage to step up and take my hand even if it was only for a little while.
He enriched me. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 10/28/2006 1:22:49 AM | msg 354: I don't think it's a threat at all (at least not to me).
Actually it's a major turn on.
But I agree with the people who are indicating that there is a fine line between independance/power and feminism.
You cross that line when you speak out too loud and start segregating and offending.
very true, its no difference to a man questioning why are women so frigid and scared of accomplished millionaires whilst not realising his being rich/sucessful got nothing to do with his being turned down.
its almost a little manipulative really - the question, putting the receveing end (the asscused) in a position to do as you said or admit that they are the names you called, it sounds like if youre not threaten, come pursue me, i dare you! or if youre not frigid, come to bed with me, i dare you!
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tho more likely, its a result of doubting if men are feeling inferior, and intrepreting the rejections as simply men being threatened, i think, its not about trying to find out 'why' men are threatened/why is a women's accomplishments 'such a threat' - which is itself an assumption that hold little truth if any, especailly after seeing other posters pointing out the flasehood of it.
msg 1: Do they just feel "inferior?" Why is it, when a woman is educated, self-sufficient, knows what she wants, and what she will tolerate (and NOT tolerate) in a relationship...why do they equate this with 'Feminisim??' I love being a girly-girl...but I can also run with the "big dogs" when I have to...why is this such a threat to men??
i m not sure what a girly girl is, but i guess demanding reasons for an assumption, especailly a down-putting one, is a trait thats difficult for men (men/women) to feel attraction for. | |
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Zedex
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 12/1/2006 10:41:57 PM | no its not a case of feeling threatened it a case of finding them types too boring or they are just too busy with work and shit.i run a mile from them too.haaaa but i guess they would run a mile from me to lol.not my type.  | |
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