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Anno41
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman??? Posted: 12/4/2006 10:36:40 AM | "I think sometimes what you call threatened, is not really threatened. Alot of men still value the tradional marriages that our ancestors were proud to honour. I guess what i'm saying is, it's not that we feel threatened, it's just that we don't feel it's right. Not that a woman shouldn't be educated or independant. Just that most women who are independant and educated are very self absorbed and it leads to them having to much time to be unnatural./"
I don't know if I got the quote thing right but there is so much that is wrong with this post that I have to comment.
First of all, our ancestors were hunter/gatherers. Our economy has changed significantly. Deal with it. So independent women are "self absorbed"? You mean they are actually taking time for themselves rather than waiting on you hand and foot? This is unnatural? In this day in age, I would say your attitude about gender roles is unnatural. I never could understand what was good and/or "natural" about relegating more than half the world's population to the role of wife, mother, and homemaker, while the other half of the world's population is relatively free to pursue their own interests and talents. Not to mention the taboo on a man who is nurturing or who adopts or posesses qualities that are seen as inherently feminine.
I also take offense to how the word "feminist" has become a dirty word. I cannot stress this enough: pro-woman does not necessitate anti-man. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman??? Posted: 12/4/2006 3:02:55 PM | A "know-it-all," that is full of themselves, is not pleasant whether they are male or female. That does not mean that independant educated women must fall into the "unpleasant" catagory. Many of my friends are successful and intelligent, and I cannot imagine many people that would be threatened by any of them.
Relationships are like riding a horse. If it is not going the way you think it should, it is best to look at your choices and beheavior before blaming the horse. Of couse there are untrained horses that are not worth the effort of trying to saddle. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman??? Posted: 12/4/2006 3:57:08 PM | Msg# 418 - *High Five*, my friend...lol..you are the only man on here that can get away with your response to me and live to tell about it. lol (kisses)
Again, women have been stereotyped for years into feeling as they 'need' a man to live a full, productive life. We don't. Plain and simple. I'm more of a lady than any man could ever imagine..IF the man in question behaves like more of a man than I've witnessed in the last 10 years.
oh..and Hank? I AM holding a shotgun in my pic..very perceptive of you!! But..you KNEW that!!! lol Good boy!! Kodak has a new "Winchester series" out posing as a digital camera. Geesh...
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/4/2006 4:37:10 PM | ^^^^I have a very pleasant attitude, thank you..when I'm treated with respect. Condescending to Hank? Are you kidding me? lol Did you read his ridiculous, attention seeking response to me?
Honey, go back to Abnormal Psych and then e-mail me privately if you have a problem with my responses to him, or anyone else for that matter. Be adult and mature enough to not behave like this on a public forum. lol
If you don't like the thread...then ignore it and don't post. Simple.
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/4/2006 5:26:20 PM | Jwa- lose the attitude and the weight...you ARE intelligent but hate me for no other reason than I stand up for myself and take no crap from anyone. And am a woman to boot.
Sans..if you want to continue to berate me for being independent and strong..then bring it on!! I won't back down, EVER!! WTF did I do to you???? Nothing..just plain..nothing!! Dang, boy!! But feel free to express your unhappiness at the expense of others. I can take it..lol
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/4/2006 5:58:17 PM | After reading through all the posts on this topic it appears to me that some (notice I said some and not all) men are really really frightened of a woman who can take care of herself. I have three brothers who are all basically rednecks except for one area, they love strong independent women. Their grandmother was a strong independent woman who worked alongside my grandfather. They were a team.
Now having said all that, my grandmother always told us girls that we were smarter than men but that the only way to be truly happy with them is not to let them know that you are. Kind of old fashioned advice because she was born in 1900. But after reading these posts.....I think her advice still rings true. | |
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/4/2006 6:18:47 PM | Ladybrett...thank you for your post..my grandmother told me the same. I was afraid of her as a child and she molded me into a 'princess'..damn..wrong generation..lol.
You are kind, and I will not behead you on this post as I have done other's..damn, girl..you have touched my soul..dag..how did you touch my heart and soul at the same time like that?
How? It can't be done with me. Purely Impossible?!?!?! But thank you just the same. You did it! hugs..this thread is done..thank you Ladybrett for falling into my life when you did! Dang..you guardian angels are EVERYWHERE!!!! hehe
Thank you for intercepting when I needed you, hon.
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/4/2006 8:03:20 PM | 436 and OP, my grandmother was the classic strong willed competent women, and the world truly is worse off without her. One glaring difference I have discerned between her and the pair of you is that she was sure enough of herself that she never once felt the need to beat her chest and declare " look how strong and independant i am" .... she knew it and let her actions and choices speak for themselves. That is true strength of character. No hero ever said "look at me I am a hero" they just did what they felt was right when the time called for it.
Sorry ladies whether or not it is true you seem to be displaying yourselves as the female equivalent of the guy with the small winkie out picking fights trying to show everyone how strong and virile he is. | |
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/4/2006 8:21:56 PM | FINALLY!! After 18 pages and over 400 hundred posts, Loony Tunz nailed it. I can only say I heartily agree and stand up and cheer.  As OTB used to say BEST POST ON THIS THREAD! | |
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/4/2006 8:25:04 PM | Msg# 441..sorry you feel that way.
My Grandmother died in a fire that my grandfather set by arson. He wanted me dead as well.
I lived..and she died.
Try to live with THAT as a strong woman. And I am. And I do. Daily.
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman??? Posted: 12/4/2006 8:38:42 PM | Must be the "people" you draw in.......I find men have an easier time "deleting" you for speaking up than to take a little heat if you don't put them on there pedestal they feel they should be on.....but I guess they always will have "those" women who will swoon them. Looks are not everything........it is inner truth and honesty, that speaks all.
Attractive, is not in those that speak LOUDLY....but in those that speak less.......good luck to you all. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman??? Posted: 12/5/2006 5:01:34 AM | | I dig it, it means I dont have to be the entertainment, and I dont get smothered 24/7. A woman who has her own life, knows what she wants, and has interests beyond snuggling and being in my back pocket everyday is a score! | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman??? Posted: 12/5/2006 5:07:29 AM | | Some do some dont..I dont --I have worked with females as far back as I can remember even in the service..Some are good --some use their position and some just use the system..Others try and hard the bad ones ruin it for the good ones...So all I can say is find someone who has just as much to loose as you do..Then you put aside the boss, education, money issues and you join as one when it comes to the home life--you do your part and he does his...50-50 since you both should work and provide.. Send an email and I'll explain it to you some time. | |
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/5/2006 6:09:08 AM | LooneyTunes and bucwhatever and the other penis puppets
Read my post again. That you would be threatened by such a post is actually quite humorous! Then read it again until you get it!
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/5/2006 8:12:00 AM | First of all, our ancestors were hunter/gatherers. Our economy has changed significantly. Deal with it. So independent women are "self absorbed"? You mean they are actually taking time for themselves rather than waiting on you hand and foot?
Our economy may have changed but human nature remains the same.
Yeah SOME independant women are "self absorbed" ...and some are just caught up in the rat race and some are trying to live up to the image presented to them by the feminist inspired "ideal"...and yeah for sure they are taking lot's of time for themselves.
"waiting on you hand and foot" .....I don't know if ever many women really did ..maybe a little bit to their kids (great moms) .... ..there has been mention of grandmothers in this thread...I wonder if any of these grandma's were waitresses to their hubbies??.....I doubt it .....neither of my grandma's waited on my grand dads excessively that's for sure ...both grandma's were very strong women.. but my one grandma was especially tough ....I ate my vegetables believe me.
I think that feminism has skewed the past to fit their women were/are repressed agenda ...women were probably in a lot of ways more powerful then... than they are now . | |
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| Why are men threatened by a condescending ninny? Posted: 12/5/2006 8:59:40 AM | men complain that i'm too independent and 'too smart for my own good.'
yet, they always come back...because i treat them well. i listen to them, make thoughtful comments, offer suggestions (when asked) to their problems, take an interest in their vehicles (or music or home improvement or whatever). i have plenty of their favorite foods on hand. i refrain from complaining. in other words, i treat them as though they mean the world to me, which typically they do.
however, i don't alter my personality or my ethics for anyone.
we walk a fine line when we stand in our power, yet manage to nurture and support those around us at the same time.
i respect a man who can respect that. | |
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