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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/24/2006 9:20:50 PM | actually it's the opposite with me
intelligent women are rightfully threatened by me
cuz they go through all the motions of becomming educated and intelligent,and with great humility and candor
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/25/2006 6:08:54 PM | Athletic_funny1...I did reply to your private message...and had to correct your spelling errors at the same time..remember? lol I'm not overbearing, and or smug in any way. I started a thread, you took it upon yourself to insult me privately (which, in fact, shows your insecurity in conversing with someone that you were too cowardly to reply to MY reply.."unread, deleted"..lol) Too funny!
I am strong in many ways which has taught me to be humble..based only on MY experiences as an independent woman, I have run across men that are abusive, controlling, insecure, and abhor a woman that can take care of herself and any other situation that happens to come along...because they feel not in 'control' any longer of the 'little woman.' I applaud ANY woman that can educate herself, take care of herself and her children without a 'man' to be the soul source of her existence.
And..Athletic...I choose to be single for many reasons now..unlike the belittling private message sent to me this morning by you to build yourself up/feel important...you don't know me, my circumstances, or what, quite frankly what I really look like based on my pictures on my profile. Again, I propose not trying to hurt people in the forums, find something else to do with your time, volunteer for a charitable cause, or join PETA..you have a miserable outlook on what you think people should be or what they deserve in life. I am proud of who I am and what I have accomplished and if ANY man has a problem with that then he is not a 'man'!! Do I make myself 'crystal' clear?? Good!!  But I will tell you one thing my friend...you would be da*mn glad that I am trained to save your sorry butt when you're stuck in a hurricane out in the Gulf of Mexico and have no one to bring your a$$ back to safety but me. Now..belittle me again.
Oh crap...Jwa is on his way...lol
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/25/2006 6:50:53 PM | Goodness Ms Sanschele.........
i think that being independent is good. However, i think to put it out there for a challenge is not good.
Education is good and there are many types of education.
I also think that the more one works on themself, the better they will be.
To not flaunt is more attrative.
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/25/2006 6:58:23 PM | Thank you tralala..I meant not to put it out as a challenge..but ignorant, private messages made me do it..I don't back down. I flaunt nothing..I'm humble and a Christian..just wondering why guys shy away from women that are secure within themselves and successful at the same time. Some of these guys need to be taught what is important in the scheme of life..some of them have never left their perimeters of their state (or Country)..some of them are so stupid that they can't even spell "Democrat" or "Republican", much less know the difference between the two.
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/25/2006 7:05:12 PM | I think it all depends on the individual, and in my experience what your educational background is (like what you studied, or what you do for a living).
I am a student of Political Science. I have the highest marks in my program, and my professors believe I am truely going somewhere (that was my one bragging plug). People within my program, specifically men, seem to resent me for this. I believe that this is because politics is still a male dominated area, with a good old boys network. Men have no problems being on equalfooting with me, but they seem to find it disconcerning when I surpass them.
HOWEVER, men in other programs such as law, soci, or psych, have absolutely no problem with it. So maybe the issue is not men being threatened by educated women, but rather concerned about competition, and the idea that their socially constructed masculine "superiority" in the workplace could be ruined by women. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/25/2006 7:17:18 PM | I see that this is the latest feminist myth making the rounds. "If I am independant, succesful, intelligent, and easy on the eyes (or even if I'm not) then it MUST be that he is intimidated by my self-sufficiency. That is the only possible explanation for why the men don't like me ... oh no...wait, I mean, they like me but they're too scared to admit it in case I further emasculate them."
Ha ha ha...or maybe it's the whole " I'm the ideal woman" thing. Not that any man is smart enough to recognize an abbrasive attitude or smug self-image in a woman but if one were (in theory of course because we all know it isn't actually possible) he might not be interested in a woman who posesses these "attributes". Why he might even interpret it all as hostile and contrary to what a relationship is supposed to be. Not that's the case here of course ... | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/25/2006 7:35:30 PM | Ms Sanschele,
Much said.... maybe i need to clarify, you may have misunderstood what i said.
Idependent is good and i think most men appreciate that.
Regardless of the type of eduation a person has, college, street smart or just good judgement and common sense, may very well go along way in life and that "education" should be appreciated. because a person has a college degree, does not neccesarily deem them to be a smarter or superior person.
When i say humble, i mean to be a decent person and not judge the other person because you may not be all that perfect.
I'm confused when someone refers to themself as Christian because i'm not sure how this applies.
My best to you Ms Sanschele | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 5:22:28 AM | Read msg 118.
I did post my reply and sent it to you personally. I only read the first few lines of your latest post then stopped I'm not interested in your insults, same reason I don't read your mail.
Insecure? Well I run 2 companies, act and public speak.. hard to do that if you are insecure.
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 6:16:47 AM |
I see that this is the latest feminist myth making the rounds. "If I am independant, succesful, intelligent, and easy on the eyes (or even if I'm not) then it MUST be that he is intimidated by my self-sufficiency. That is the only possible explanation for why the men don't like me ... oh no...wait, I mean, they like me but they're too scared to admit it in case I further emasculate them."
Ha ha ha...or maybe it's the whole " I'm the ideal woman" thing. Not that any man is smart enough to recognize an abbrasive attitude or smug self-image in a woman but if one were (in theory of course because we all know it isn't actually possible) he might not be interested in a woman who posesses these "attributes". Why he might even interpret it all as hostile and contrary to what a relationship is supposed to be. Not that's the case here of course ...
That's priceless; couldn't have said it better myself. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 7:38:37 AM | They arent.
The Russian have a word for this which roughly translated means, 'victim of her own succcess" russian women have embraced equal oppurtunity since the revoloution but seem to havetrouble embraacing men.
Successful women still havent come to terms with the idea that they are so successful that most of the men in thier lives will be less successful than them. and they won't date them. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 7:43:57 AM | 97% of men are control freaks and micromanage the relationship they are in.90% of women let them and like men to be this way in the relationship.
thats why most men like submissive /passive women.
i prefer a strong independent minded woman who is willing to let a relationship be an equal partnership. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 8:07:23 AM | msg 104 Really smart women do not ask such silly questions....
This OP is one of the sadest people I've ever come across. This thread is a cry for attention. She fights with everyone on here.
Most of the men have responded that they are not threatened by independence and education. So there is her answer. Then what is the real reason men are afraid of her?
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 8:26:38 AM | Intelligent, educated, independent women are very often less attractive than the women they are superior to in those other areas. It's not a matter of intimidation in many of these cases but instead a matter of men not finding "mannish" traits encapsulated in a lesser package when other choices abound.
The one personal experience that really stuck in my mind: I took a brilliant (and attractive) woman I had seen a few times out to a very nice restaurant and play. It was the first time I'd seen her done up that way. And it was awful. She didn't have a clue about makeup and she had no idea how to walk hin her heels plus she seemed to just not be feminine in general despite the dress.
All that said, I'll take the smart and independent one over the armpiece...as long she's put together well...and knows how to walk. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 8:56:24 AM | nothing wrong with smart, succsessful, independent women that way you can pay for half of everything when we go out.
has anyone ever noticed that "strong independent" women never refuse alimony from their exs'. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 11:14:43 AM | "Intelligent, educated, independent women are very often less attractive than the women they are superior to in those other areas."
I'm intelligent and educated.I know that for sure.As far as being attractive goes, I get asked out by a fair share of the so called hot men.So, must be I am attractive too. I have great fashion sense because I know how to dress up.So please do not generalize.I think you are talking about the nerdy educated women.But they are few if you really think about it.
But Amor you usually make a lot of sense. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 11:29:21 AM | I often wonder why women think men are attracted to a woman that spends 14hr days making a lot of money rather than the housewife that takes care of the home, works out often, and enjoys cooking. Not me I like the hefty businesswomen they're more  | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 11:39:55 AM |
..just wondering why guys shy away from women that are secure within themselves and successful at the same time. Some of these guys need to be taught what is important in the scheme of life..some of them have never left their perimeters of their state (or Country)..some of them are so stupid that they can't even spell "Democrat" or "Republican", much less know the difference between the two.
Sanschele, excellently put, but you have to admit that this is true for women too. It is the same "machine" that produces them both, isn't it?
And I was in Florida before! Why, oh why, all interesting women are so far away from me??????  | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 1:35:46 PM | roxannia
I should have expanded the logic there. I mean that the frequency of intelligent, educated and independent traits all in one woman is far lower than the frequency of attractiveness. IT just stands to reason that the odds of a woman having all those traits plus attractiveness are far worse than just attractiveness alone.
As for the "do not generalize" comment, I think that it's obvious that we are forced to generalize in a discussion forum and that there are inherently exceptions to every statement that generalizes.
Does THAT make more sense?
[disclaimer: still post-op and full of drugs right now...] | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 3:31:01 PM | | SANSCHELE. It is not that they do not get it; it is because they do not share YOUR opinion on what YOU think is the finer art of romance, love, mutual respect and equality. I myself am around highly educated women all the time, and what I notice quite often is simply that some educated women do have a chip on their shoulder and have a tendency to act superior. However, I find it a turn-on when I find a woman who can truly balance being educated, successful, feminine and be approachable. Many though lose sight and over compensate, and that is a turn off to me. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/26/2006 3:31:06 PM | Thank you all for your replies..and Pansa, yes, indeed this thread could have well been written by any gender. We all think and act on different levels depending on our culture, social upbringing, past experiences, and basic communication skills. My past experiences prompted me to start this thread hoping for some intelligent feedback on the subject...indeed, there TONS of smart men (AND women) on this site (including yourself), I might add. 
Oh, and message 147? (Or is it Dr. Phil?) Thanks so much for diagnosing my emotional state...but, again..*sigh*....sadest is spelled S-A-D-D-E-S-T. If you are going to bash, please do it with proper spelling from now on. I thought Public Speakers (as you claim to be) read and proof-read their material before show-time!!! lol Need a hug now?
No, Pansa...all of the REALLY interesting people are in California!!!!
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