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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 9:23:58 PM | Maybe this apply to certain men,
definately not all,
but to those that may feel that independent women are a threat
because they are something that they are not,
but should be,
male egotistical shock,
competition with a girl,
just not having it. | |
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Luiset
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Joined: 5/29/2006
Msg: 205 | |
| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 9:37:01 PM | It used to be that men were the providers and who women could cry and they would understand and hold their own and not shed a tear. We complained that we wanted men to be in touch with their femine side, well they did and now they are all going GAY. Geez, now I think we as women need to give men a chance to be our strong other half and allow them to be men. Personally, I can't stand seeing a man cry, but I love a man who can cook, dance and still be very male.
I don't want to run with the "big dogs" and don't want to take the place of a man. I think when women start pushing their independence too much, that is when men start feeling treatened. It is good that as women, we can carry our own and have something to stand for. The problem is that most women are loosing their femine side and becoming more of what men don't like.
Let a man be a man and I think in the long run, they will stop feeling threatened by us. I love it when a man treats me like a lady, opens the door, pours my glass of wine and holds me in his arms. There is nothing like a man's embrace to make a women feel safe and warm. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 9:39:39 PM | Do they just feel "inferior?" Why is it, when a woman is educated, self-sufficient, knows what she wants, and what she will tolerate (and NOT tolerate) in a relationship...why do they equate this with 'Feminisim??' I love being a girly-girl...but I can also run with the "big dogs" when I have to...why is this such a threat to men??
I don't feel inferior, in fact this is the type of women that I am attracted to. I don't see that as feminism, I see that as a woman who is confident and secure in herself and is looking to be an equal. If a man finds that a threat, he needs to look at himself seriously.
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 10:37:06 PM | I spoke to a person on here who had modest employment but I had felt that he was the old fashioned guy in fact he stated it many times that he was... and so needless to say it didnt go anywhere nor was it going to ...I can honestly say it was ok at friendship if that and I did not advise him of what I do for employment which probably would of intimidated him...
...so I cant say yes to this one nor no...depends on the people. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 10:42:20 PM |
I don't want to run with the "big dogs" and don't want to take the place of a man. I think when women start pushing their independence too much, that is when men start feeling treatened. It is good that as women, we can carry our own and have something to stand for. The problem is that most women are loosing their femine side and becoming more of what men don't like.
I don't know as I agree with that, I for one *like* having a woman who is my equal, that I can hold a good conversation with, talk about politics or whatever, and even disagree with, but respect each other's opinions.
But I think that "can run with the big dogs" thing, which is wonderful, a respected and good quality in the business world, can sometimes carry over into your personal life. One of my ex's is like that, I work with her, she's *great* at work, helped offload me a lot because you give her something to do, and she *drives* and gets it done. She's a steamroller once you get her going, and our Boss loves her for that.
On the flip side, she's also like that in a relationship (trust me, I know  ), and it can be (no, *is*) very difficult to be in a relationship with somone who is like that in a relationship. Everything in the relationship was (as it ended) "Marry me *now*, or its over". Well, after that it was over, I don't deal well with ultimatums, and that was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, marriage isn't supposed to be an untimatum (especially after only 6 months). Sad, because we are still best of friends, and I know she's really a wonderfully caring person inside, but she still goes into relationships like a steamroller (We've talked about that lately, actually, she's trying to tone it down with the latest BF).
There's another one at work I know (only like 25, too young for me) who I was chatting with a while back, she's done really well, "climbed the ladder" and gotten a lot of respect from people -- and we were chatting about dating and she said "they all think I'm too bossy".
As has been said elsewhere, relationships are about compromise. I love a smart educated, secure, independant woman... I've only dated one really "needy" woman, and that only lasted a week, a definite "turn off" to me. But I don't want a woman that thinks because she makes more than me, or has more "responsible" job, or whatever, that she can be the "boss" of the relationship. Listen to me as well as talking to me, and respect my feelings, my feelings *are* supposed to count aren't they? After all, a realationship *is* supposed to be "partners".
How many women who think their man was "intimidated" by them, actually sat down and talked with them to find out how they felt? Be curious to know. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 11:01:21 PM | Again..thank you all for your replies..running with the 'big dogs' does not make me less than a woman or a 'girly-girl'..only more independent in a 'man's world.' I spent 16 years in the DC area..and know what image should be projected to be accepted...I have risen to many occasions of 'Wine Tasting' in the finest restaurants..and I have come to realize that image is nothing comapared to integrity, diginity, or class. I have all three.
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 11:11:47 PM |
I have risen to many occasions of 'Wine Tasting' in the finest restaurants..and I have come to realize that image is nothing comapared to integrity, diginity, or class. I have all three.
Nothing is ever more of a turn-off than an oversized ego to accessorize an already 'perfect' personality. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 5/31/2006 11:36:07 PM | Geeeezzz.........this think is still going on..????
I don't get why people bothers to fight with this woman.
I say, leave her alone, if it makes her happy to think that men feel threatenet by her and she's educated, and have class....blah blah blah....let her be. | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 6/1/2006 3:56:01 AM | Even though this thread has spun completely out of control it's absolutely hilarious that OP "sanschele" has asked how do we end it now? Yet she keeps posting for her own reasons----pit bull, politician, loves a good debate, email her and she'll eat you alive---geeesh. Originally her comments seemed to be frustration more from chasing men away because of her attitude but she assumed it was we're intimidated by her education, etc. It appears many who have posted replies don't agree with her----that it MIGHT be more her behavior responsible and nothing to do with education or current employment. In general it seems most are not in agreement with her---that's very encouraging. It says she's probably the only one who finds herself "intimidating"!! LOL
If she truly wanted this to end she'd simply stop replying herself---but yet she returns time and time again with more challenges or reasons/excuses in defense of her original post. Someone mentioned she appears to be somewhat of a control freak herself---I think she just hates NOT having the last word. Whoops---she'll be correcting my spelling/grammar OR accusing me of analyzing her state of mind now! That wasn't my intention--please DON'T chastize me Sanschele?? LOL
Someone as intelligent, well-employeed, wine tasting and "intimidating" as she presents herself would have recognized long ago this whole thread has become a no-win situation for her or her points of view. Instead she's either sniping at spelling/grammar or defending herself as though it's important anyone other than herself know what kind of person she really is--as opposed to the one she's managed to portray herself as in this forum. Sanschele: if you REALLY want this to stop------YOU FIRST!!! | |
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| Why are men threatened by an Independent, educated woman???
Posted: 6/1/2006 10:18:12 AM | Again making a fool of herself correcting spelling mistakes when spelling mistakes appear in her own posts. Msg 205 and one other (not bothering to find it). But more to the point is she thinks it makes her look smart to correct spelling.
You bring up things like spelling and "wine tasting" to show your intellect and "class". "Wine tasting" what a joke. Yeah that makes you a decent person. Anyone with "Class" as you call it would never use this word to describe themselves. If you had any you would know that.
Are you eating me alive by looking like a fool. Then it's working.
Take this IQ test. I scored 141. I would guess you are about 100-105
http://www.wilywalnut.com/iq_test/iq_test.htm
Yes please correct my typo's if this make you feel big. See you next tuesday. (crack the code) | |
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