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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/6/2009 11:40:53 PM | I'm not going to defend myself. ~8soldierfalcon8~
^^^^LOL..nor are you going to answer any questions where you don't look like a *superstar* doing so? It's easy to feel like a superior a$$hole when you never answer any of the questions your leading comments provoked....one word comes to mind when I read your posts...coward...aka..fraidy cat...scardey pants...wussie.....it all equals coward in the end..
m_church...don't ask a question you have already formated an opinion about. It is a tacky excuse to validate your personal feelings...Men don't deserve the luxury or gurauntee of tangible proof of what they can expect to get from dating a single mother...in fact it is childish and irresponsible to expect any kind of tangible "proof" from any prospective partner. If men like you need to negotiate a relationship before it progresses naturally...than perhaps men like yourself aren't ready to be in a relationship period.....just sayin | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/6/2009 11:53:37 PM | I am not going to say who, but there is one poster in this forum who I am really glad I met.
She was the one who single handedly destroyed ALL of my uncertainty about whether or not I wanted to get a vasectomy, or date a single mother.
You know who you are... and thank you. Please keep posting in this forum and convincing multitudes of other guys not to date single mothers with your man-hating, ranting, overall azzhattery, and unwillingness to support yourself or take responsibility for your own actions.
I salute you.
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/7/2009 12:05:37 AM |
She was the one who single handedly destroyed ALL of my uncertainty about whether or not I wanted to get a vasectomy, or date a single mother
I'm not sure if you already had your vasectomy or not, but in case you haven't, when you go in for the procedure, have a picture of this poster in your hands so you can look at the person during the operation, lol! | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/7/2009 12:32:09 AM | I am not going to say who, but there is one poster in this forum who I am really glad I met. She was the one who single handedly destroyed ALL of my uncertainty about whether or not I wanted to get a vasectomy, or date a single mother. You know who you are... and thank you. Please keep posting in this forum and convincing multitudes of other guys not to date single mothers with your man-hating, ranting, overall azzhattery, and unwillingness to support yourself or take responsibility for your own actions. I salute you.~8soldierfalcon8 ~
^^^^Well I don't want to openly hog the credit for that accomplishment...but I think your talking about lil 'ol me?
I don't think that the pic she posts in POF is really her. Although the woman is holding a baby in the pic... and that would help. Pregnancy is an STD I do not want. ~8soldierfalcon8 ~
^^^OMG it is me isn't it?!!! And hey....if it was my rants that convinced you to NOT date single mothers and get a vasectomy....I feel like I have saved several women and countless unborn children the frustration of seeing your back walk out the door.... What a compliment..geez I hope you were talking about me....cause I'd feel awfully dumb if you meant it was another person with a baby in her pic that provoked you to have such a profound decision on your life.... BTW....How is your ex wife these days?.....doing better without you? Or are you taking advantage of her weekend passes? | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/7/2009 1:07:56 AM | BTW....How is your ex wife these days?.....doing better without you? Or are you taking advantage of her weekend passes?
^^^ I'm actually going to trade her a pistol and a very large sum of money to get her to sign paperwork stating she will stay out of my life. I was going to do that today, but it is going to have to wait a few days. :)
See, she does not like to work... and likes to mooch off of other people. Kind of like you.
How are you doing with raising your x's dna? Is it doing well for ya? How does it feel to know that you're spending all this time raising people who will more than likely dislike and resent you when they become adults?
Roflcopters.
Karma's a ****.
Tell your mom I said hi... seeing as how she probably lives in the next room over.
PS - notice my use of the quote functions. Perhaps you should get a social worker to explain to you how to do that.
PPS - if I got a girl preggo and she decided to keep it, I would feel it was my chivalrous responsiblity to try to make it work with her and raise the child. I would be miserable.... and any woman who would disregarded my wishes that badly would not be right for me. I would be a victim of my own decency. In some ways, I really envy men would could just walk away.
THIS is why I want to get a vasectomy. But you would not understand... it's not a part of the selfish, man-hating lizzie world.
For the most part, only stupid, careless, or selfish people become single mothers. Period. That said, it would be just my luck to be in a relationship and have the 1 in a million chance that my gf gets preggo on birth control. Hence the vasectomy.
If I ever want to have kids, there are LOTS of kids out there who need to be adopted to a good home. | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/7/2009 1:19:38 AM | How are you doing with raising your x's dna? Is it doing well for ya? How does it feel to know that you're spending all this time raising people who will more than likely dislike and resent you when they become adults?~8soldierfalcon8~
^^^^Things are going okay...or so my accountant tells me....but hey...balllet lessons are expensive I hear! ...should be a valis tax deduction though!
If I WERE YOU with a person of YOUR attitude...I would be worried about how MY kids are going to treat YOU when you reach those golden years... somethin to think 'bout!
PS - notice my use of the quote functions. Perhaps you should get a social worker to explain to you how to do that.~8soldierfalcon8~
Ahhh...been on here for like 3 years now.....just can't be bothered to figure out how to qoute using my laptop....I'm lazy y'know!
If I ever want to have kids, there are LOTS of kids out there who need to be adopted to a good home. ~8soldierfalcon8~
^^^God help those poor little souls that fall into your warped world!
Snip...snip....lemme know if ya need some frozen peas...I'd be glad to throw you a can! | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/7/2009 1:31:59 AM | ^^^ ::eyerolll::
Ok lizzie. That was kind of lame, though... I mean, for you.
I was expecting a ridiculous long, man bashing rant.
I think I may have thrown you for a loop by demonstrating that all men will not walk away from a pregnant women...
Must have really thrown you for a loop that I wouldn't. Even knowing that I am totally against it and I would be miserable.
Additionally, you don't know anything about my world. A child raised by me would be a truly incredible human being... and also know that the person raising it was not rejected by the person who contributed half of his/her dna. ;) Can your spawn say that?
I'm just not selfish enough to feel it necessary to pass on my DNA. If I ever do want to have kids, I can have one AND save a life by adopting.
Think about that. Also consider the fact that if I ever DO adopt, I will have had to be approved for parenthood by a very rigorous process and probably taking parenting classes too. | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/7/2009 10:50:49 AM | Ok you two, you are making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.....the love between you is so infectious....
Soldier, I am so disappointed because I thought I was the woman who made you think about getting a vasectomy.... Now I don't feel special anymore.....how are ya gonna make it up to me?
Truth be told, I am incredibly happy and incredibly content these days because I am in a place that is truly wonderful.......I am in love (something I honestly didn't think I could ever allow again) and being loved by a man who appreciates, respects and cares for me in exactly the way I need to be cared for. I bring to his life me and all I have to offer to anyone, mind body and soul and it is plenty enough for him. He is happy to be with me and that is everything.
So if you asked him what he would be missing out if he chose not to date a single mom, he would say everything..........and so quite frankly would I, because I would not have him in my life.
What many of you fail to take into consideration in these philosophical discussions is simply this.....when you meet the one that you connect with, it doesn't matter if children are involved or not......all that matters is the connection you have with each other. With that connection, everything can be negotiated together and will be for as long as that is what you want to do. Stop wanting that and the relationship dies. If you are on the same page and work together as a team, there is really nothing you cannot do together to work through the obstacles tossed in your way.
Now, that the last thing I really expected was to meet up with him again after 23 years and if someone had told me even 4 months ago, I would be where I am right now I would not have believed them. If I had for one second thought about him philosophically, that would have killed the relationship right then and there. He has two children, I have two children...the logistics alone are daunting (and so is the idea of selling our respective homes and buying a much larger one together), the building of relationships between the children and the non-bio parent is also daunting, so are the attitude of some of our common friends towards our being together. If either one of us allowed for one second to allow fear to enter our hearts and replace the love, we would not have a relationship. I simply am refusing to allow fear to take up a place in my heart and he is making that same choice. (It is a choice)
Life is not meant to be solitary, it is meant to be shared with someone who makes you smile, with whom you feel wonderful and with whom you feel all things are possible with committment and communication.
Life is risky business but you never take a risk, you are existing....you are not living....trust me on that, it is a lesson I learned years ago.
Now soldier and Lizbeth, stop and already!  | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/7/2009 10:26:02 PM | Additionally, you don't know anything about my world. A child raised by me would be a truly incredible human being... and also know that the person raising it was not rejected by the person who contributed half of his/her dna. ;) Can your spawn say that? ~8soldierfalcon8~
^^^^Soo your saying that you would raise your child in YOUR image?...WOW..scarey...I hope you plan on riding the school bus with them everyday until you can teach them self-defence!! It is no wonder to me you take great pleasure in demeaning and mocking my child's insecurities when it comes to her bio father...good one!!...you just got one up on a four year old!.. In any case....still hanging on to this can of peas.. lemme know when your ready to get the big SNIP!
*Additionally you don't know anything about my world either..but your posts still make you look like an Ar$se hole regardless of what you think of me... | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 4:33:24 AM | ^^^ I have to admire your tenacity in trying to decipher her posts after all this time, FS... LOL!!
I think I hit a nerve about how she got rejected... and rejected... and will still get rejected again.
If the woman went gay, she'd get rejected by women.
I wonder why? ::innocent face::
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In my opinion someone who has children who will not date someone with children is really hypocritical. True, it is their preferences, but it's hypocritical none the less.
You brought up the philosphical connection here... but I disagree with you. Whole heartedly.
I simply will not date someone who does not meet my standards. Period. I don't let emotion come into play at all until my head says it's ok. Some of my good friends don't understand how I can do this... but they can't - and it's why they end up with so many people who are wrong for them.
So... I have to disagree with you, IAITSoul. I also have to point out that we are different genders. What I look for, and how I approach dating is fundamentally different. I simply will not date a single mother. Ever. To me, in my mind, it makes her damaged goods I don't want. I want a new car - not the old VW bus.
That said, I am super glad for you! Your life sounds wonderful. My life is not too bad at the moment either. I am just really looking forward to moving away from WV, and maybe finding someone decent to date. The writing is on the wall basically that unless I move first, or find another transplant like me, there will be no dating for me in WV.
WV girls and I just do not mesh. At all. I get lots of attention but not really by anyone I am interested in as well.
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 5:59:11 AM | Well now I'm just pissed.
I get no credit for you absolute loathing of single mothers soldier? well crap...I'll have to try harder next time. Oh and please post proof of your vasectomy once you do get it (do gas stations offer health insurance? ) so we can all sleep better at night knowing you aren't going to knock up the next Miss Teen.
WV girls and I just do not mesh. At all. I get lots of attention but not really by anyone I am interested in as well.
That is pretty sad. When do you stop thinking it is them and realize it is you?
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 8:10:09 AM |
I don't let emotion come into play at all until my head says it's ok. Some of my good friends don't understand how I can do this... but they can't - and it's why they end up with so many people who are wrong for them.
Soldier, you are still quite young. I don't want this to come off condescending at all but I realize it might so please know that it was not my intent. You may live to eat those words humbly. You can be as logical as you want but honestly....you may well one day see a woman, have a conversation with her and wammo.....you want her in a way that you have never wanted another woman in your life. You may be so shocked to experience that connection with someone, you won't even ask if she is a mother or not and she won't necessarily tell you. I can see now the struggle you will face within you as you try to reconcile the feelings you have about her (deep within you in a place probably not yet touched by any woman in you) with your attitude about dating a single mother. I hope if you find yourself in this situation, you listen to your soul and not your ego (and by ego I mean your brain).....
That said, I am super glad for you! Your life sounds wonderful.
Thanks  | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 8:34:57 AM | In my opinion someone who has children who will not date someone with children is really hypocritical. True, it is their preferences, but it's hypocritical none the less.
Yeah, because it's better for someone to make a crappy step-parent than to avoid it altogether. 
And what happened to everyone is allowed their dating preferences? | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 4:08:52 PM | ^^^ That's why I tried to put a disclaimer on there, Bosox.
I get no credit for you absolute loathing of single mothers soldier? well crap...I'll have to try harder next time. Oh and please post proof of your vasectomy once you do get it (do gas stations offer health insurance? )
No, sorry. You're just a random, ugly handicapped chick who doesn't like me. There are tons of them around the world. You all should form a club or something.
Lizzie is the monster.
I make more money while unemployed, not on any sort of government assistance at all than most people in this country do working full time. ;) Does that eat at 'ya? Additionally, my grandparents are rich and will not live forever. I'm the favorite grandchild.
And I actually get free health care at VA hospitals since I am a veteran.
I really don't want for anything.
And if you have never been to WV, don't be so hasty in your judgements. Even if you hate my guts as a person, spending a few days here would probably make you feel sorry for me.
This is the most obese, uneducated, hopeless place I have ever seen. WV is FULL of unwed, young mothers, and people who basically have no aspirations for anything greater than barely making it by.
It's sad.
I want to date an equal. I do not think that is asking for too much. My x wife was my equal before she went crazy, and my adventures with her around the country were the best times of my life. | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 4:20:43 PM | I don't see why it is surprising at all that a young man does not want to date women who have already been married and/or had children. Don't some of you remember back to your younger years? Did your ideal romantic partner already have a marriage and children under their belt? Mine didn't, no way.
Let's be honest, having children by another person usually is a detriment, not an advantage, in a relationship. The ideal for most young people is to start out fresh with one another, no previous marriages, no children by other people, etc., etc. | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 6:41:41 PM |
^^^ That's why I tried to put a disclaimer on there, Bosox.
How is it hypocritical? If they're complaining about not being able to get a date because they have a child, and then they won't date another single parent, that is hypocritical.
But if a single parent understands if someone isn't into dating someone with kids, and also doesn't want to date someone with kids, how is that hypocritical? | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 7:04:08 PM |
Let's be honest, having children by another person usually is a detriment, not an advantage, in a relationship. The ideal for most young people is to start out fresh with one another, no previous marriages, no children by other people, etc., etc.
I agree with what you said. As one gets older though the ideal is less likely to occur so being open-minded may be a wise thing to be, or not. | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/8/2009 7:19:07 PM |
I agree with what you said. As one gets older though the ideal is less likely to occur so being open-minded may be a wise thing to be, or not.
I agree with that, since that is exactly what happened to me. Actually, I had a VERY specific type of man I wanted, from a particular ethnic/religious group. even from a certain town (not the one I lived in, either), with a certain personality type. So when I met my husband who had all of these qualities, the single parent thing was no big deal, especially since his child was a teen. | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/10/2009 1:00:09 AM | Lizzie is the monster.~8soldierfalcon8~
^^^stop it soldier....your making me blush ...Your insults are so gratifying...since I view them as huge compliments because you are too obtuse to reply to any of the questions I have poked you with in the last 4 pages...but you move away WV...I am sure it is every woman there that is the problem..it couldn't possibly be you....Just a tip...you might wanna stand up straight when you go out in public...instead of trying to lick your ball*s or kiss your own backside....Generally women are attracted to a man's eyes...y'know...window to the soul and all!. just a thought before you pack up and move to???? ...Oz? | |
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| How are Men missing out, If they choose not to Date sigle moms Posted: 8/10/2009 7:25:16 AM | So is your overall financial plan to basically wait for your grandparents to die off? Niiice.
And I have to agree with Liz. I'm SURE it is all the women there. Go ahead and move. I'm sure you will have better luck elsewhere. But just not Alabama...don't know anyone here that would fancy an overweight, unemployed, egotistical self-proclaimed genius either.
I thought you left anyways? Went to greener pastures where you are more understood? WTF happened to that? | |
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