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 kiss-me-good-night
Joined: 5/24/2007
Msg: 226
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it depends on the women....some women think thats a turn on....i meant the sweetest guy and his a father
 EyeDye
Joined: 6/19/2007
Msg: 227
why do women run when they find out your a single dad?????
Posted: 7/1/2007 9:22:37 AM

Tsk tsk.

I did an experiment sometime back on a different site. If I don’t mention I have kids my response rate improves by a factor of 5……. That is a VERY big difference. Using this as a basis, it would appear that as many as 85% of women consider kids to be an instant deal-breaker in the dating world. They will not respond. They will not get to know you. Assumptions are made.

1) There is still the stereotype that women make better parents. It is assumed that the man simply wants to date to find a new “mother”.

2) Children cost money. Because the man takes care of his children he will have less money, making him less attractive.

3) People hate competition. Knowing that children are involved the woman feels like she needs to compete for affection.

4) Women that have already had children feel they have already done enough work with raising their own.

5) Despite our pride in our evolutionary process we are still governed by our natural instincts to a large degree. There are a lot of people that feel they would not be able to give love to a child that is not biologically theirs. We can already see a foster system full of older children that are not being adopted.

6) It is assumed that there must be an evil “ex” involved that will make bonding with the children difficult or impossible.

In Canada, custody is broken down in the following averages. Women will get primary custody 90% of the time. Men will get custody 5% of the time. The last 5% will enter the foster care system. So what do these numbers mean? Children require an investment of time and affection so there will be less for the relationship. Generally this means it is easier to date someone without children. Because men seldom get primary custody women can expect that the majority of the men that approach them will not already be caring for children. There is less competition for affection and resources.

Single mothers have their own set of problems to deal with. They are affected by a number of stereotypes that men don’t have. Single mothers are often portrayed as irresponsible, desperate, and easy. The older the age group, the more likely a woman will have children. Getting into their 30s there are is a substantial number of single mothers getting back into the dating game. Unless a man wants to have a much smaller pool of eligible dates he must consider single mothers. Single mothers have a much easier time finding a date than single fathers because of the numbers. The biggest problem single mothers face is the quality of their suitors because of the aforementioned stereotypes unfairly assigned to them.

From everything I have read and seen I would guess that the actual dating pool for single fathers is perhaps 10% of single women or less. While this is a small number, it IS a significant one. The greatest advantage for single fathers is we attract some truly amazing women that look for who we are instead of what we can do for them. Quality over quantity. In the end I would guess it’s actually harder for single mothers for having the reverse. I would not envy them for getting more attention.

*sigh* It is still generally expected for men to make the first move. I really wish it would be easier to know who that 10% is before messaging so we don’t have to see all those discouraging read/deletes though.


AliasIncognito, that was one of the most insightful posts I have ever read on this topic. I must applaud you.
 woody01530
Joined: 6/27/2007
Msg: 228
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Posted: 7/1/2007 9:23:12 AM
I've just joind this site & I have 2 children. My daughter lives with me full time (15). I have my son (12) when he wants to come. He now lives with his mum & the bloke she left me for 22 months ago. He was always closer to her but we get on fine. For most of the first 12 months he lived with me.
Must admit I've found it the same although my friends think it's great that I've done right by my kids but not many woman seem interested. To be honest I think I've just found out what many single mums have had to put up with for years & they have my sympathy. In many respects I'm lucky as my children are older so at least I can get out. It must be much harder for single mums or dads whose kids are much younger.
I've had my 'cards' read & am going to be in luck soon!!
 bounceybarb
Joined: 6/24/2007
Msg: 229
why do women run when they find out your a single dad?????
Posted: 7/1/2007 12:29:00 PM
being a single parent full stop is hard work .male or female. getting back on the dating scene is just as hard. i take my hat off to you and any single dad. i have four kids and on my own . i dont complain but i will say as soon as i mention the word four men run a mile . its a very lonely life being a single parent but i would not change anything about my kids and would never put a man before them. so carry on wiv what your doing and thats being a parent . the thing is yes we have kids but do we not deserve a life to . do these people not realise that the kids do not have to be brought into the relationship. there are was of having good relationships without hurting the kids . to be honest its beta that your not getting people to date rather than letting you and your kids fall in love with them and then dumping you like a sack of shit. good luck and take care
 colly123
Joined: 6/25/2007
Msg: 230
why do women run when they find out your a single dad?????
Posted: 7/1/2007 1:14:57 PM
I would ask the same question-why do men run when they meet a single-Mom-i belive because the other believes that at if the right time comes-he or she will not be number and one and I have to say we all want to be treated like there is no other-with the exception that children are different and it is a differnt love. It obvioulsy takes a special-secure and mature person to handle it-not to mention if the couple wants to spend time together than may not be the amount of time the other person feels the need.
 VictoriaLucy
Joined: 6/13/2007
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Posted: 7/1/2007 3:30:04 PM
sPOT ON ANSWER CAN I TAKE U OUT 4 A DRINK? iTS REFRESHING READIN A MAN WHO HAS HIS HEAD SCREWED ON ,NICE.
 Sweetsunnyside
Joined: 6/27/2007
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Posted: 7/1/2007 4:21:41 PM
theres been alot of answers to this question but i thought i would add my opinion,

Firstly has many have already said you deserve every respect its a bloody hard job bringing up kids single handed,every gal as do guys have their own reasons for not wanting to date single parents with kids....some its because of not being able to have your full attention 24/7, for others its the 'OMG he's got kids living with him',

I have come to realize that with a great deal on dateing sites they read the 'has kids' in your profile and suddenly label you with the word 'desperate',
'desperate' for cyber fun
'desperate' for a mum/or dad for the kids
'desperate' for getting straight onto msn and chatting about indecent garbage
'desperate' for whatever catorgory they want to put you in

But one thing these people are not 'desperate' for is to meet you in person they suddenly, has you say treat the situation as a diesese.

Best way i can answer to your question of why is .....because they dont have respect for how hard it is to bring up kids,they dont have any idea how hard it can be at times to bring kids up single handed,they have never had to do it after all they still have the 'no ties, no responsiblities, no comitment fun' life......i have found that haveing kids is also 'fun' so personally i look at it as its their loss
 TsvPrincess
Joined: 6/12/2007
Msg: 233
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Posted: 7/2/2007 3:40:32 AM
Ohhh it's so cliche! Boo Hoo we're single parents and nobody wants us! I think dating is so full of assumptions and unrealistic expectations!

I am an intelligent, hard working, honest, attractive (and clearly modest) single parent. Why do we HAVE to be in a relationship to be considered 'normal' anyway??? Lonliness is a killer! sure we all wish we had someone to curl up on the lounge with at times, but so many people in this world live only for themselves and will never understand what it takes to put others before yourself FOREVER...of course I am talking of my children.

I have thought about this a lot lately and started wondering, if I was single, unattached with no kids, would I want to get involved with a single parent? Probably not to be very honest...not unless it was something extraordinary....so what chance do I have if even I DON'T WANT TO date me!!?? LOL!!

Yes! I have kids!!! I feel like making up a sign to wear on my body when I go on a date which answers all the private questions guys have straight up...yes 2 sons 8 and 10 father lives 2 hours away, has them every seond weekend and some holidays, yes we're still good friends, no we don't sleep together, yes we were married, yes both kids are his! Yes I work full time and pay all my own bills, I don't know if I want any more kids...maybe. Blah blah (oh look at the time I have to go).
 Seekin1GoodGuy
Joined: 6/28/2007
Msg: 234
why do women run when they find out your a single dad?????
Posted: 7/2/2007 8:10:02 AM
Are you kidding me? I've dated men with children and men without. Although my kids are both teens now, I'd prefer to date men with kids versus those without, since they know what being unselfish and raising kids is all about.
 chrissyfit
Joined: 4/7/2004
Msg: 235
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Posted: 7/2/2007 3:27:20 PM
this thread is totally tired. women date men with children all the time...and even marry them, hence the "evil stepmother" stereotype. perhaps you're just looking for love in all the wrong places (as the sappy tune from urban cowboy posits). the other way to think about it is...why on earth would you want to have anything to do with a woman who sees kids as a liability in a relationship? kind if weeds out the non-potentials quite nicely, i would say.
 LadyExec
Joined: 6/28/2007
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Posted: 7/2/2007 5:05:59 PM
I've been on both sides of the fense in regard to dating someone with children and dating while being a single mother myself. I don't know that women flee from someone with children...but I do know that when a woman dates a man she wants to feel special she is amazingly special from the onset of the relationship.

Anyone with children knows they take priority and it takes a woman who is confident in this knowledge to understand that a man with children will have other priorities at times and can't be available to them 24x7. You have your priorities in the right order. One day you will find an amazing lady who will cherish you for being a great father.

Happy hunting!
 snowhite51683
Joined: 6/26/2007
Msg: 237
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Posted: 7/2/2007 5:11:55 PM
I am a single mother of a 3 year old. I wouldn't mind dating someone that had children. I love children. There is someone out there that is right for you. You just need to be patient. When you aren't looking for someone, the right person will come along. Let them come to you. I have the same problem sometimes. I just tell them, my daughter comes first, and if you don't like it, you know where the door is. I am not going to pick anybody over my daughter. She comes first. Your children will always be there for you, a stranger won't. Good luck in finding that special someone. She will be lucky in having you in her life. Amanda
 solodad7
Joined: 12/7/2005
Msg: 238
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Posted: 7/2/2007 5:41:52 PM
Its really simple actually, these women want you all to themselves. Even more simply speaking they are selfish. As for deadbeat dads I'll let you in on a secret the Family Responsabily Office hides. Of 100% of Fathers paying support almost 70 % pay on time and on a regular basis Of 100% Mothers paying support only about 4 % pay on time on a regular basis. Go figure. We're not deseased we're noble and our kids need us. Be wary though god forbid one says something thats negative or factual about womens down falls.
I have raised two wonderful daughters now for ten years now both headed for college. I know I'm a good father and a good pearson but more importantly I don't water down the truth about how society favors women regardless of the best interests of the children.
 solodad7
Joined: 12/7/2005
Msg: 239
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Posted: 7/2/2007 6:12:34 PM
see women are great for changing it to a "What about me?" its always about them
 50%dork,50%lady
Joined: 6/25/2007
Msg: 240
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Posted: 7/2/2007 8:54:06 PM
I find that when a man tells me he has custody, it increases my respect for him . Hard to put my finger on why... maybe cuz my ex refused to discipline or parent, and I admire a man that takes the role seriously.
 lilmomma75
Joined: 6/27/2007
Msg: 241
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Posted: 7/3/2007 3:44:03 PM
i can't answer that for ya, but i am a single mother of 3 sons. I am goin through a divorce. My sons' father passed away 7 yrs ago and i remarried a man who said that he loved them like they were his...well, needless to say he left us for a 19 yr old girl and drugs and has not had anything to do with my sons....so i ask the question...was it so easy for him to just leave?? now they haven't just lost one dad but 2? but he had no children of his own...i don't know if that had anything to do with it. I try to do the best i can with them and they know that i am always here for them. There has to be good ppl left in the world is i can say. But the world is also full of selfish ppl...
 marishka1001
Joined: 2/15/2007
Msg: 242
why do women run when they find out your a single dad?????
Posted: 7/4/2007 5:55:21 AM
I am a single dad of 2 great teenagers I have been divorced for 5 yrs and haven't found anyone that will even date me much less anyone who will except me for my kids. Why do women think that a single dad is Taboo to date? You would think with all the deadbeat dads out there someone who is taking care of their kids would be respected. But no its like I have a desease when they find out I have kids. Can someone tell me why????????

No, I don't mind dating a single dad, in fact that's great you've taken responsibility for your kids...i applaude you! If we were closer, I'd ask you out...lol

Maybe you're dating the wrong type of women, perhaps they don't like kids.
 PI314
Joined: 12/17/2006
Msg: 243
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Posted: 7/4/2007 7:11:48 AM
Bam Bam,

I agree with you. I think single moms have it much easier... it is because everyone expects a single mom and it is much more accepted in society. Women do not accept single dads because women are less forgiving. The system does not encourage men to do what is right and what is difficult which is to take an active role in their childrens lives beyond just financial support. I have been out with women who have outright stated they have no interest in a man who has kids. I myself have never taken that view with a women with children.
 Betti Bewp
Joined: 4/27/2007
Msg: 244
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Posted: 7/4/2007 4:28:38 PM
I dont get it either...it happens for single parent women as well. (guys) What I do know is this,
Part of my criteria questions in determining if I would like to date a fellow, is if there is kids, how does he take care of them. I respect men who are involved with their children no matter what age, and I respect men who are able to have a healthy relationship with the mother of their children...when I hear that kids come first, and the parents have gotten past the divorce crap and have moved on, and are able to work things out in the best interests of their kids,,,this tells me of a maturity level and a sharing and caring qualities. I would want to be included in the relationship of my dating partner with children and vice versa sometimes, but also know the importance of the one on one quality time of parent and child. if women are running from you because you have children...let them run. and keep running...I knnow if guys are saying to me that they dont like kids or no kids...I dont even bat an eyelash, because it is not a match.
have fun fishing
betti
 Hiwayman
Joined: 6/29/2007
Msg: 245
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Posted: 7/4/2007 11:45:31 PM
Well the truth is OP is that the gals know you've been picked over already and there is nothing left. At least thats what they told me when I was raising my kids.
 Shallow Hal 58
Joined: 5/20/2007
Msg: 246
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Posted: 7/5/2007 4:21:45 AM
it make it almost impossible for a woman to take half of your house, pension ....
when it's your children. theres no gold mine for them there.
 timbits_icecap
Joined: 8/12/2007
Msg: 247
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Posted: 8/29/2007 6:11:13 AM
Don't stereotype women,it kinda made me sad when I read your posting.I am a single Mom of 10 years , and walked away from 2 abusive marriages with nothing and asked for nothing. Yes I started over twice from dirt and loved every minute of the challenge.I also think that what you each came into the marriage with is yours and what you have gained together is split and that's just the way it should be,unless you're weird like me and walk away. Things are just that, things, things don't make the world go round, and things don't make a marriage work,and things sure aren't worth fighting over and making a painful situation even more painful. and to answer the question about single dads,I really don't know. I think it is very admirable and these dads need to be commended, because any guy can be a father, but it takes a man to be a dad.Anyway enough blathering about what I think, have yourself a glorious day knowing that you fill the shoes of a man!!
 Gentleman Joe
Joined: 6/6/2007
Msg: 248
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Posted: 9/4/2007 1:42:38 PM
Because they know we are unable to give them all the things that they are sure they deserve. The women are looking for a guy who can afford to splurg. They dont want to deal with us and our stuggles. They have there own challenges. It just makes things easy. I know this doesnt apply to everyone but if you want to be with a Barbie you have to have something going for ya.

Its just human nature.
 Gentleman Joe
Joined: 6/6/2007
Msg: 249
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Posted: 9/4/2007 1:59:02 PM
Man thats just two funny.... You hit it right on the head... Hey man your profile is just funny as shit...

Isn't It Ironic!!! Don't Ya Think....
 harleyblue
Joined: 4/29/2007
Msg: 250
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Posted: 9/4/2007 2:53:47 PM
Wow..this thread is still going strong, too. I have to say - a lot of men run when they find out that you're a single mom, too. I think that's why I've been single for so long.
To answer your question, though... I don't run when I find out a guy is a single dad. I just tread very cautiously. I think I posted this somewhere else, but here goes.. I met a guy on here. We've been talking on the phone for weeks, but haven't been able to get together due to his work schedule and his children. He has full custody 0f them (they're 8 and 10) and has help from his parents when need be. He wanted to meet somewhere the other night - and bring his son along because he didn't have a sitter. He got very offended when I said that I didn't want to meet his son - at least not on the first date. Needless to say, I don't think we'll ever meet. He also got upset with me when I said that if he wants to meet me - or any woman - that he will have to make an effort, plan ahead, and get a sitter. That's just one of the reasons why I "run" when I find out a guy has young children - I have a teenager and I'm quite finished with all the babysitters, etc. However.. I don't "run" from all single dads, especially those who have teenagers around my son's age. Please don't lump all of us women into the same category.
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