| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/18/2006 3:44:02 PM | | Besides abusing it, I think some people are more likely to be affected negatively by it. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/18/2006 4:10:40 PM | It's pretty readily available in Montreal. I remember buying a bottle of it and the man behind the counter made me promise him I would only take half the suggested dose.
there's the idea that cayenne is a thermogenic... but ive read studies that disprove it too. plus, the heartburn is just nasty.
I do take my ephedra on an empty stomach... I really don't feel like eating till about 230 in the afternoon. I know it's bad... but, i can't fathom eating before then | |
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| Hot Rox...
Posted: 6/18/2006 4:20:37 PM | ummmm.....Endorphins... | |
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| Hot Rox...
Posted: 6/18/2006 4:24:27 PM | Healthy food & excersise promote ^^^^^^^them in colaboration with ALL body systems..
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/19/2006 1:51:17 AM | I think it's replaced with hard work and smart eating/activity decisions, and lots of patience.
As for digestable products to help metabolism.... I know every time you eat your metabolism will speed up for about an hour.
i've not had a hunger issue, - so I don;t know about that - but I have used a creatine mix from GNC to help control energy flow during endurance training. - I used it on and off to avoid building a dependance. - and drink lots of water, - it's probably not good for you either! lol | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/19/2006 8:21:11 PM | | Vasopro, Bronkaid, and Primatine are all readily available sources of ephedrine salts. If you need more of a kick there's always llello. | |
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| HOt Rox Update - Yet Again.
Posted: 6/20/2006 5:24:02 PM | I finally got it to give me a bit of energy... HOWEVER - I dont suggest trying it. =)
I drank down a can of Diet Dr Pepper with it, so I had over 240mg of Caffeine at once.
Again - its not something I'd suggest trying, but it gave me the kick that Hot Rox claimed it would =) | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/20/2006 7:53:49 PM | | Well ... I dont know what other people have experienced while taking ephedrine or products containing it but its helped me a lot and I think that it is safe if you use it right. I mean ... If you have heart problems like hypertension, high blood pressure etc ... its common sense, you shouldnt use anything that makes your heart work harder. And taking the precautions like talking to your doctor before using it is important too. I think its totally safe and helps a lot if used correctly and not abused. Some people take over 100 mg a day of the stuff and thats just crazy. Thats the kind of people that give it a bad name. I dont exceed 25 mg ephedrine a day. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/20/2006 8:56:23 PM | | its not "recommended" to go above 8, but 25 is the Absolute max. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/20/2006 9:11:01 PM | | Ya, I mean .. i think 8 mg if your taking it before each meal 3 times, but 25 max. a day i should find the links where i read this to back up me up lol | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/21/2006 4:29:38 PM | Hello everyone.
I don't mean to intrude on you post, but being that I love working out and being fit I kind of could not help my self.
What do anyone here think about Censor? And can anyone here recommend a good energy pill that does not give a spinning or nausea feeling or headaches. Thanks J. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/21/2006 5:25:18 PM | | Depends on what you're lookin at doing. As for that "spinning and nausea" feeling - try reducing the dosage in half. I DO NOT reccomend Ephedra(ine) for you if normal energy pills do this to you. Most of them have high levels of caffeine, which could cause part (or all) of your problems. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/21/2006 6:00:20 PM | Yup, I agree with ya
I think you gotta listen to your body
Always take precautions | |
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| Another Hot Rox Update
Posted: 6/21/2006 9:00:44 PM | Once again.... nothing to report. same as I've stated....
Oh well - they did issue another version of it, which Im not tryin ,=) | |
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| Another Hot Rox Update
Posted: 6/22/2006 7:55:55 AM | proenzi99
this has ephedra and is available i all places, it's also a great multi!! | |
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| Hot Rox...
Posted: 6/24/2006 12:03:19 PM | Honestly, there are things you can take naturally for energy, and even food, carbs before your workout, electrolytes....I am not a big fan of these enery pill junk....all it does it have caffein and give u a kick......and to be honest when u take them they give u a kick before your workout and than after your workout when you are worn out or depleted than you have to be careful you don't plummet and hit bottom when it wears off....
about 4 yrs ago I tried Ripped Fuel and got a kick from it during my workout, but it felt weird, didn't feel like me, and when I wanted to wind down I could not, so I got off them....just didn't feel natural.
People take this for a boost, and some try more and harder than their expectations in the gym cuz of the energy spike and they take a chance of hurting themselves or pushing too far and getting an injury.
Take your protein, your amino acids, your electrolytes, maybe Tribex, a testosterone kicker for men, and some simple carbs for quicker digestion for the workout, and you should have enough for a good kick and energy for a workout...if you think you are that draggin on a daily basis, that you need all these caffein kicks it makes me wonder what you are not providing your system that you should be on a low. I always have a ton of energy even when I wanna just sit down and relax!! I don't drink caffein, alcohol, or barely anything with sugar in it....yet anyone who knows me knows I have a ton of energy constantly......
Look as an overall for energy and not just for an hour or so kick, cuz you mess with the up and down yo-yo effect it gives you... | |
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| Hot Rox...
Posted: 6/28/2006 5:31:43 AM | good post awaitingyu, we can add something else here....
studies have shown green tea extract has been shown to speed up the metabolism and burn more fat stores without raising the heart rate!
also CLA fatty acid has been shown to excellerate fat burning for fuel and stop the body from adding fat stores, especially to exisiting fat cels....leading to celulite!
I personally have taken these items for almost two years now, and have had no ill effects and have lost almost 20 lbs in fat!
I also exercise regularly and eat sensibly....a balanced approach to health and fitness with the right choices in supplement will help greatly! J | |
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| Hot Rox...
Posted: 11/20/2007 9:50:19 AM | Ephedra IS legal, but only in tablets and "recommended" doses of 10mg or less. Like any other drug including aspirin, antibiotics, laxatives, etc, they will pose problems for people who use them inconsistent with their true intention and instructions, so "overkill" was the response in this case. But it really is the only thing that is proven to work. Read more here http://www.ephedratalk.com/ .
The tired old saying "its as simple as diet and exercise" doesnt work for most people beacuse our metabolisms are damaged from restrictive dieting.
Most of the ephedra-free supplements are a big joke and scam, but I did get a little help from Metabofire. | |
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| Hot Rox...
Posted: 11/20/2007 5:48:12 PM | Ephedra is just a natural form of Ephedrine HCL.
http://www.buy-ephedra-diet-pills.com/ephedrine-30mg.htm
When I used this stuff back in junior high and high school it was 100% legal and often sold in headshops as "White cross". Little round flat white pills with a score down the center. I believe they were 10mg. They put caffeine to shame. 1-2 would be a nice pick-me-up and four of them would have you flying, blissful, and maybe feeling your scalp tingle. I never took more than four. They lasted about 4 to 6 hours.
No need to touch them since. I'd use caution since this is just an oral form of ephedrine sulfate(injectable form) which is used to restart hearts in the ER. It has its legitimate uses, but be careful with it. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 11/20/2007 10:59:26 PM |
I know it makes my heart rate go from a normal 90 beats/min to 115/min.....can you imagine those that take it and do sports that would normally raise heart rate anyway????? Those people that died probably had it go up to 150/180 or more beats!!!!! um, my *normal* as in resting heartrate is around 68. I routinely get a heartrate over 180 and maintain that for a prolonged period if I go running. Now, all this is without ephedrine/ephedra, but a heart rate of 150 isn't likley to kill anyone younger than 70... | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 11/23/2007 6:43:17 PM | I get up to the 140-150 zone all the time when exercising.
You need to be careful not to get too close to your maximum (safe) heart rate for your age. Subtract your age from 220 to get it. So for me it would be about 185.
anything in the top 20 percent is whats called the protein utilization range, it is so intense that it draws needed fuel from your muscle tissue and thats not what most people want.
The FUR (fat utilization range) is usually in the 60-70% range. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 11/23/2007 7:26:11 PM | | or you could just stop taking drugs altogether and live a life like a human being ? | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 11/25/2007 7:13:20 PM | tell that to someone who is on high blood pressure medication. or a guy who is taking something for ED.  | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 11/27/2007 6:35:31 PM |
CALCIUM (WHAT?? YES CALCIUM HAHA)
We've known for years that calcium is good for the 'ol bones, but research over the last few years has demonstrated it may be good for something else too-weight loss. Several studies have shown an inverse association between calcium intake and body weight or body fat. It seems to be particularly important during weight loss.
While there have been some studies actually supplementing with calcium to enhance weight loss, dairy sources of calcium exert greater benefits than supplemental or fortified sources of this mineral. Knowing calcium is good for the body anyhow, it's important to consume sufficient amounts of dairy products; particularly during caloric reduction.
Ugh. More agri-business crap.
http://www.pcrm.org/health/prevmed/strong_bones.html | |
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