| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 3:58:52 AM | I can't listen to his music anymore to be honest. Just like Gary Glitter "you wana be in my gang" whole new meaning now.
There's probably a few songs of jacko's that's got hidden meanings behind them.
Also i think there's better artists out now than him. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 4:10:44 AM | Nobody despises you Scorpio.
You have done nothing wrong other than some misguided but well intentioned support for someone you admire.
A lot (including me) won't agree with you but you're entitled to your opinion.
Everything from his weird habits to the strange ways his kids were conceived to order in yet another financial arrangement serves to paint him badly.
I wouldn't play his records now either as they are now seen in a different light and i wouldn't want to be supporting a paedo in any manner, even one as trivial as playing records.
How long til we get "Now thats what I call Paedophilia Vol 1" featuring Gary Glitter, Michael Jackson, Jonathan King.... | |
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Joined: 4/11/2006
Msg: 28 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 4:19:42 AM | Putting aside the accusations Michael Jackson is the greatest music artist and performer walking this planet today surely you cant mock that!
For one thing, Jacko doesn't walk, he moonwalks
Secondly.. he hasn't produced any records of note in well over a decade
Thirdly.. I don't even rate him that much. I know a lot of people like Thriller, but not even the neutral (and the neutral likes thriller) would put it up there with the great albums of The Beatles, Floyd, Stone Roses etc etc
My own view is that there are hundreds of bands and musicians out there that kick Jackos lil white ass into touch... starting with Pavement | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 5:29:11 AM | He paid up and bought off first child at point in trial where childs evidence was solid statement describing MJs willie which apparently has identifiable marks.
Evidence against him was overwhelming but not enough for jury who sadly, like many on here and in real life do not have the training or experience in how sex offenders operate to see how he so closely fits the profile. Sex abuse will continue to plague us and destroy lives when people are so ready to give benefit of doubt. If you knew nothing about rocket science you wouldnt give your tuppenceworth to the next space shuttle engineers would you? So why feel able to give opinion on child abuse if not a specialist? Every time someone gives support to MJ and disbelieves it makes it harder for abused kids to speak out, they feel no one will believe them. | |
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Joined: 4/11/2006
Msg: 30 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 5:33:57 AM | Well I don't know much about rocket science but I know a hell of a lot about brain surgery.
Just the other day, I was talking to some guy about the subtle nuances of Paul McCartney's bass part in 'The Girl is Mine' and he said.. well it's hardly rocket science is it? And I told him - no, but then what is? And he said.. I'm no brain surgeon but in my view Paul McCartney's playing is rubbish on that track. And I told him that, although I'm not a brain surgeon myself, I know a hell of a lot about it, and that in my view, his performance was certainly passable and added quite a bit of value to the track. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 11:15:33 AM | If I was Michael Jackson, and I was in court over child abuse allegations I'd simply say this....
If I, was a millionaire paedophile and I'm not, but if I was I defiantly have a fun fair in my back garden...
Come on he couldn't be more dodgy if his house was made out of sweets.... | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 12:20:51 PM | ^^^^^ and this is from our very own resident sick puppy 
I still don't know what to think on this subject although I am leaning towards him being a sick perv, like the saying goes no smoke without fire. I certainly wouldn't let my boys spend the night there let alone in his bed, no way.
No Dean not even for 10 million, well not unless I was there too maybe lol | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/2/2006 8:51:49 PM | | News flash for you. Here in the states hes hasnt been popular for years.He is kinda been over since the late 80s. He is really creepy, grown men dont share beds with kids period unless your related and even then there comes a time to stop.Didnt you ever notice he doesnt do this with little girls. His family supports him cause he is the sole bread winner of the family. Even black folk here find him too strange, after all he was a black man at one time. I have no idea and no one else can tell me how you can change the color of your skin like that. To many blk folk he has turned his back on his heritage. | |
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Joined: 6/29/2005
Msg: 35 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 12:37:38 AM | mysterious..no the parents werent normal, im just saying what I would do.
and you can make all the excuses under the sun for MJ, but for whatever reason he held his kid over the balcony-its not the actions of a normal man and that poor child is gonna be just as messed up as MJ is when he is older.
you say its time he was left alone to get on with his life etc..well if he didnt keep doing such crazy and abnormal things and left kids alone-he would indeed be left alone himself.
there is no smoke without fire. | |
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Joined: 5/19/2006
Msg: 36 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 4:19:30 AM | He would never be left alone even if he didnt do these strange acts, its what comes with being famous, but he did not choose this life he was born into it. I am not justifying what he does but I can understand why he does what hes does.
I am no cynic and I like to see the good in everybody especially Michael as he has brought good to so many peoples lives, but this doesnt mean I am not aware that abuse like this happens everyday and its totally discraceful and it sickens me. Anyone who has commited this crime diserves to be locked away forever, away from society, but I really cant see him doing it. Greed, fame ,fortune everybody wants to get in on the action and Michael's an easy target. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 4:47:05 AM | Scorpio, I am curious......
This is a purely hypothetical question, but just suppose it was proved somehow that he WAS guilty....What would you think of him then ?
Would you continue to be a fan ? Play his records ??
I'm not being malicious, just curious as to what a fans reaction would be. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 5:51:50 AM | Famous people are easy targets?!
What about the children targeted by these rich fat cats. Money talks and 9/10 times these days, kiddie fiddlers like him will get away with it. Because they can buy the best lawyers, i wonder how many MJ fans were on the jury? And they didn't want to believe their beloved star could do such a thing.
I'm sorry but there's definitely something not right with him. And as many have said, there's no smoke without fire. I hope the truth comes out sooner rather than later, then hopefully no more kids will be hurt by him.
I think his own kids should be taken off him for a start. If a family here did anything to their kids like he has done. At the very least they'd be on the child protection register, sent on a parenting course, and psychological evaluations done on the parent. He's got away with far too much. Makes me sick to the stomach.
FFS will our kids every be able to grow up without been messed up for life by theses b@stards. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 5:57:12 AM | What time is bed time in the jackson house
When the big hand touches the little hand..
He was found inocent and with the media scratching at him and plenty of insiders talking im sure they would have nailed him by now.
Innocent untill presumed guilty.. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 6:21:32 AM | I would just like to say i totally agree with you. I have loved michael jackson forever and i have even been fortunate enough to see him in concert (it was amazing) These people that accuse him of all these terrible things just want his money, if this wasnt true he would be in jail right now serving time but instead he walked free because he is INNOCENT!! I just want to add that just because he is famous and he has been in the limelight all of his life people seem to think they have the right to pass comment on the person he is today when really it has nothing to do with anyone apart from him and his family. I will always be behind michael and if people want to slate him then that is thier perogative but more fool them when they are proven wrong. Anyway i think everyone should leave him alone and let him get on with his life, like i said if he had done anything wrong then he would be in jail right now...... | |
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Joined: 6/29/2005
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 6:34:53 AM | ok i know im going on a tad too much lol but do you not think that sleeping in the same bed as a child who is NOT even yours is alarming? that holding a baby over a high balcony (even if for a split second) is alarming?
maybe he hasnt molested a kid but he sure as hell isnt doing anything right by them.
admit it, if any non celebrity had done anything remotely like MJ has done (whether he claims its innocently or not), they would have been put on the at risk registar within a blink of an eye.
so what if he used to make good music..whoopee f'ing doo!! he is a lunatic who needs psychiatric help and fast................................. ok im done i promise   | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 6:44:18 AM | OK you can't believe everything you read on the net, but this has some interesting stuff about the case, like what evidence the jury weren't allowed to see such as pictures of Sicko's bits.
One of the alleged victims had described his genitalia to the police...
There's loads on it, have a read....
http://crime.about.com/od/current/a/jackson.htm | |
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Joined: 5/19/2006
Msg: 45 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/3/2006 4:01:23 PM | Scorpio, I am curious......
This is a purely hypothetical question, but just suppose it was proved somehow that he WAS guilty....What would you think of him then ?
Would you continue to be a fan ? Play his records ??
I'm not being malicious, just curious as to what a fans reaction would be.
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No NO NO NO!! There is no way you would find me playing his songs and still be a fan if he was really proven to be a child molester I would feel sickened and deeply saddened. | |
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Joined: 5/19/2006
Msg: 46 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/4/2006 3:45:17 AM | ''There's probably a few songs of jacko's that's got hidden meanings behind them''
Yes mistress h, there are and if you opened your mind as well as your ears and really listened to his songs then maybe you would understand his lyrics. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/4/2006 4:01:54 AM | Oh believe me i'm very opened minded. Maybe i'm just more biased as I've worked with children who have been abused sexually.
And Gary Glitters song use to be a laugh, got people up dancing. My nanna loved his music, he was great then in his own right.
You wana be in my gang?
Now it's a case of was he really singing you wana be in my paedophile ring?
Concerning MJ I do understand that OK innocent until proven guilty, and your standing by him because in the eyes of the courts, he was found innocent. Fair enough.
But the law sucks sometimes, and people do get away with things that have done wrong. Especially when you've got money and fame behind you. | |
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Joined: 5/19/2006
Msg: 48 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/4/2006 5:23:55 AM | | I know there are injustices in the law sometimes, but can you not sometimes just see what someone is just by looking at them? I know a gay man when I see one and Gary Glitter to me does look like a Paedophile. Fame and fortune didnt get Glitter anywhere did it ,so no if he is guilty having money didnt help get him off. | |
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| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/4/2006 8:28:15 AM |
but can you not sometimes just see what someone is just by looking at them? I know a gay man when I see one and Gary Glitter to me does look like a Paedophile.
I really wish it was that easy to tell what people are like just by looking at them.
You can't judge someone just by their looks...
Know one walks around with a face that says, i am a murderer, rapist etc, if they did, it would save a lot of victims that suffer at the hands of such people.
And on what Michael Jackson looks like, well know one will ever know even himself, because everything about his features have been surgically altered.
Yes by law he was "proved innocent", but any man that puts children in his bed that he is not the father of or related to, is not right. And will cause suspicion and allegations. Along with the other evidence the lawyers tried to bring into this case, but were not allowed to use. Something has got to have gone on. I personally will never believe he is fully innocent. | |
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Joined: 5/19/2006
Msg: 50 | |
| Why are people so cynical against Michael Jackson?
Posted: 6/4/2006 9:17:30 AM | | Yes I think that the eyes bare the key to the soul, take a look a Myra Hindley, Ian Brady, ted bundy and Ian huntley come on you would have to be blind not to see the evil in their eyes. I know that no matter what the courts say and what I think that you will never believe he is innocent so we will just have to agree to disagree. | |
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