| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 11/7/2007 9:29:28 PM | Or are you just being obtuse?
Hey if it'll put an end to this idiocy let's just say that yes, I am just being obtuse. Jeez. What happened to that scroll wheel on your mouse you were telling all your faithful friends about? Use it man. I will too. | |
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 11/8/2007 4:30:42 AM | | yet another thread which has degenerated into a slagfest....a sorry cesspool of ad hominem fallacies....what a shame....whether one embraces buddhism as a philosophy or a religion, loving kindness is the language spoken where we gather.... | |
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 11/8/2007 1:07:38 PM | | ^^^^ Very good post Rainsands! According to the Dalai Lama, kindness is the only religion you need. | |
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 2/18/2008 9:48:48 AM | The Rock says........ It dosn't matter
I say its a pointless talking about it.
The word religion came from the word religio. look it up yourselves and make you own mind up.
Theres one truth about this thread that is theres resentment towards the word religion. I dont need to point out why 
Ill add one other thing... The idea of buddhists coming together is to talk about Lord Buddha,Dhamma so on so on and not ideal chit chat. by using mindful words you maybe able to give answer without 5 pages of posts.
with Metta
John
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 2/18/2008 2:36:24 PM | Paul; even though i kinda agree with your repeated assertions that Buddhism and classical Hinduism are(i would say "might") be called sibling faiths; i do not agree with some of the statements you made.
its interesting you would make them given the fact that you are a religion-major
paulthesane
Are you even listening to me? I said CLASSICAL HINDUISM, the Hinudism we know today...
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the Hinduism that we know of today, the one that we point and say THAT is Hinduism
can you define Hinduism? if so pls do so for me.
Buddhism even PREDATES the various schools of Hindu philosophy.
predates "some" schools of Hinduism. yes
In short: there was a myriad of various philosophical thoughts and schools in the period. [u]All of them shared common heritage in the historic vedic religion[/u]. some became Hinduism, some became Buddhism, others Jainism, and so on.
[u]The Vedas unified the shamanic traditions in the Vedic religion[/u], Hinduism developed due to the later commentary texts.
I'm appalled and astonished that you would claim that Hinduism as we know it arose from the Vedic religion!.
Hinduism today is the amalgamation of two major religious traditions, and only One was the Vedic religious tradition. in fact Hinduism as we know it owes a Lot to indigenous native religious Traditions.
A lot of things that we take for granted In Hinduism do not have a Vedic origin. the Goddesses of Hinduism are a good example of the Dravidian Mother goddess religious tradition's influence on the Vedic religion. furthermore the practice of Yoga itself can be traced back to the Indus valley civilization of the Natives.
and let us not forget that one of the major anthropomorphic deities of Hinduism; Siva is probably a native god who got co-opted into the Vedic religion. and there is evidence to believe that the practice of using flowers and rice grains as a form of offering rather than animal sacrifice(horse sacrifice to be specific)to the gods is also one that the Vedic religion took from the Native religious tradition.
and the list goes on..so much so that what see now as "Hinduism" is pretty much the native religion interspaced with some Vedic iconography and terms/concepts..a far cry from the picture you presented.
its really galling that you would avoid mentioning this when talking about the origin of Hinduism. i'm sure it was an oversight
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 2/18/2008 3:40:57 PM | | Thank You rainsand. Well said. I believe in the jewish messiah. I've recently started studying w/ a buddhist nun. Wow! It has really given a whole new meaning to what this jewish rebel taught. I don't buy the reincarnation thing,but that's ok. To all my "christian" friends out there...you don't know what your missing! | |
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 6/18/2008 1:32:45 AM | Mmmm...I just saw a lot of threads and debating about Buddha and Hinduism and what not. The accepted belief is that is he chose to be reborn at that time in that place because of prevailing beliefs 2500 years ago and could give a nudge in the right direction as the peoples
could accept his teachings much more readily then, say, a Viking village. Of course I won't argue about this, and please don't say anything about the run-on sentence(s) as I am really wanting to be un-attached to sleepiness but just thought I would post a little something something while my so unmindful mind was still on topic...
P.S. If a wall isn't a wall, and then it is a wall, and then in the end it isn't a wall(the whole emptiness thing and progressing through the different stages of recognizing REALITY)...
...can we say that about mind???
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:45:20 PM | Buddha (Sanskrit meaning Enlightened One) wanted to know why people suffer.
He sat under a tree and meditated until he "awoke" after determining that "desire causes suffering.".
When he told others they couldn't believe that enlightenment was so simple.
So they started adding to it to make it more 'religious" until we have the many forms of Buddhism we have today.
After Buddha told people that "suffering causes desire."
They asked him how he came to that conclusion.
He said, I meditated.
So they figured if they meditated they would come up with the same conclusion.
I often wonder what part of "desire causes suffering" they didn't understand.
Buddhism is not what the Buddha wanted.
He did not want followers.
He did not want a Buddhist "religion.
He only wanted people to understand that 'desire causes suffering."
If you understand that you will become as enlightened as the Buddha.
If you don't, you can try meditating until you do.
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 6/18/2008 3:17:30 PM |
Is buddhism considered a religion or a state of mind? What is the definition of religion (do you have to have worship or a god, for example)?
Buddhism is considered an Ancient Religion. I have questioned that "name" for a long time. It's a state of being: mind, body and soul. There is no god to worship and Buddha (several of them in fact) would not wish to be in a position of "the eyes" of others imitating, fearing, or otherwise using them as icons for the study of the prinicples.
On a related note, is there a religion or a label for the following belief: This person believes in reincarnation. This person also doesn't believe in society's values and morals (perhaps a complete sociopath or sociopathic tendencies - meaning absence of conscience and inability to understand right and wrong)? Lastly, would a person like that be reincarnated as a slug?
Reincarnation is so broad that would be impossible to answer. If you truly wish to know the answer, it's most likely within you. (Written like a true Buddhist....LOL)  | |
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| Is buddhism a religion?
Posted: 7/22/2008 3:40:51 PM | Yup, Ray ... concise and neat.
When we stop looking for the answers inside of us, that's when our path becomes a religion. | |
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