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 jazzthief

Joined: 9/21/2005
Msg: 26
English-speaking people don't make war on each other
Posted: 6/15/2006 3:56:28 AM

But weren't those Canadians speaking French in 1812?


Uhhh no....
Maybe the ones from Quebec but most of them were English or descendants of English/British people.

Good lord, Americans know so little about their neighbours!
 anticon

Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 27
English-speaking people don't make war on each other
Posted: 6/15/2006 6:04:10 AM
How about Canada and the US?

How about Germany and everyone else?
You know, Hitler made himself dictator. The official form of government had a parliament... ditto England vs. the US... Ireland vs. England...

Now, I'm sure someone's going to come back with "Oh, those weren't 'real' democracies!'."...

Well, what IS a "real" democracy?

After Florida 2000, can the US call itself a democracy?

I think not...
 Lone Stranger

Joined: 7/15/2005
Msg: 28
English-speaking people don't make war on each other
Posted: 6/15/2006 7:47:32 AM

How about Canada and the US?


That was between the U.S. and the British Empire which Canada was a part of and was a monarchy at the time....when was that....1812 ?



How about Germany and everyone else?
You know, Hitler made himself dictator. The official form of government had a parliament... ditto England vs. the US... Ireland vs. England...


Germany was a democracy in 1932 but the Nazi party had failed to gain a majority of seats during that year. Hindenburg who was Chancellor and under enormous pressure for a number of reasons relented and appointed a desperate Adolf Hitler Chancellor of Germany.
Hitler then brutally swept away democracy along with a lot of other things, by the time war came in 1939 Germany was a fascist dictatorship.

Like it or not Bush was democraticaly re-elected.
 HalftimeDad

Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 29
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English-speaking people don't make war on each other
Posted: 6/15/2006 7:56:09 AM
Nope. There's way too many instances of election fraud, all of which benefited Bush to make any claim of a democratic re-election incredible. A recent Rolling Stone had an article going into this very issue. Exit polls are considered the most reliable polls out there - in the Ukraine when exit polls indicated a different result than the official one it resulted in a democratic mini revolution - and they all said Kerry had won by a comfortable margin.
 Lone Stranger

Joined: 7/15/2005
Msg: 30
English-speaking people don't make war on each other
Posted: 6/15/2006 8:33:56 AM
I agree the US election in 2000 was a mess, I think less than 50,000 votes seperated the Democrats from the Republicans, In the end the Republicans got in with about 49.9 % while the Democrats had about 50.1 %. Bush did win a majority last year however.
Here in Canada we routinely elect governments that have less than 40% of the popular vote.

Britian did not become fully democratic until the passage of the People act in 1918.
Democracy in Britian was a slow process that that required the passage of many acts betwwen 1850 and 1918.
This means that technicaly Britain was not yet a democracy when the First World War broke out in 1914, however neither was Germany.
The war between Ireland (William of Orange ) and Britain was between 1689 - 1691 which lead to Ireland's independance.
 HalftimeDad

Joined: 5/29/2005
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Posted: 6/15/2006 2:08:45 PM
Actually I was referring to the 2004 election. Some precincts got over 300% voter turnout that went all to Bush. Every vote. In Ohio the President of Diebold who supplied the voting machines was also the state chair of the re-election committee. In many states that went to Bush, the exit polls indicated a Kerry victory. All of these states used electronic voting machines, usually supplied by Diebold. This is Tammany Hall on a national level, using 21st century cheating.
 Lone Stranger

Joined: 7/15/2005
Msg: 32
English-speaking people don't make war on each other
Posted: 6/15/2006 3:45:32 PM
I did'nt know about that Halftime.
If this is true then Americans should be very upset, there should be criminal investigations.
Democracy is very important, it's one of the reasons why we don't attack other countries just for the hell of it. Somebody should probably explain that to Bush.
 djaltitude

Joined: 6/20/2006
Msg: 33
English-speaking people don't make war on each other
Posted: 6/21/2006 2:18:06 AM

If you want to get technical, the Holocaust actually started as far back as 1933 when Hitler first got into power and began opening up death camps.


They weren't actually Death Camps until later on in the War. The Final Solution was done in stages. First, there was the Kristallnacht Progrom... then they started the deportation of Polish and German Jews to Ghettos. It wasn't until 1942 that the Nazis started the moving of the Jews into Six Extermination Camps.


As for English Speaking People not making War on each other... the IRA speaks English and they blew up and murdered a lot of Brits. The American Civil War and their War of Independence. Last I checked the US speaks English.
 kamikazekate

Joined: 4/15/2006
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Posted: 6/21/2006 9:27:59 AM
you just gotta read the posts! ^^^^^^
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