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 rsx11s

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Posted: 5/30/2007 1:48:22 PM

Aspartame was brought into our food supply,by Donald Rumsfeld


Rumsfeld? Figgers. There was a big contravery in the day because this stuff was passed by the FDA in a special quick-track process and did not undergo the usual rigorous testing.

Of course I don't suspect for a moment Rumsfeld profited from this in any way. That would be so out of character for that smarmy prick.
 specialfxgirl

Joined: 7/5/2005
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Posted: 3/22/2009 4:19:31 PM
here is a awesome video for you to watch .......if you want to hear the whole story.

its really bad stuff

The Flouride Deception

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2886269353175462948&ei=-MbGSeutDITuqAO9nKD3AQ&q=flouride+deception
 Settleforthis

Joined: 12/7/2007
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Posted: 3/23/2009 7:44:46 PM
EDIT: Ack, I shouldn't have skimmed a couple of the posts......someone already made my point.
 guitarguy10

Joined: 11/24/2008
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Posted: 6/21/2009 10:50:55 PM
Helps keep the water clean.
 scorpiomover

Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 6/22/2009 6:47:24 AM
One thing I don't understand. Water seems to be fluorinated, because a small proportion of children don't get into the habit of brushing their teeth, and then eventually leads to them suffering greatly with tooth decay. So why not treat the problems at their source? Why not make those kids brush their teeth first thing when they get to school? Only takes 5 minutes. If you're afraid of singling the kids with bad teeth out, make them ALL brush their teeth. It will onll take 5 minutes. It will give them a break from the boring routine of studying. It cannot be harmful to brush your teeth once more than normal. It will allow the school nurse to correct anyone who brushes their teeth regularly, but incorrectly. It will even introduce kids to putting the things they learn about health into practice, because everyone knows that brushing your teeth is good for you, and so they'll begin to associate what they learn in school, with what they should do at home. Pretty soon, they'll associate everything they learn in school, with what is good to do at home, including a healthy diet and plenty of exercise, and thus we'll kill off the obesity epidemic at a stroke. No major costs, no downsides, and we solve the biggest health crisis facing our children in history. What's wrong with doing that, and leaving the water as it is?
 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 6/23/2009 12:57:00 AM

One thing I don't understand. Water seems to be fluorinated, because a small proportion of children don't get into the habit of brushing their teeth, and then eventually leads to them suffering greatly with tooth decay.


This is not in fact true,

http://cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5014a1.htm


Initial studies of community water fluoridation demonstrated that reductions in childhood dental caries attributable to fluoridation were approximately 50%--60% (94--97). More recent estimates are lower --- 18%--40% (98,99). This decrease in attributable benefit is likely caused by the increasing use of fluoride from other sources, with the widespread use of fluoride toothpaste probably the most important.


Even with toothbrushing, fluoridation in water works.
 78outdoorsguy

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Posted: 6/23/2009 5:27:12 AM
If you don't want flouride in your drinking water, buy a EcoloBlue. The EcoloBlue unit is a Atmospheric Water Generator that takes water vapor from the air and converts it into drinking water. (There's no flouride in water vapor. So this unit is ideal for those people who want to avoid exposure to various toxins, heavy metals and various chemicals that are found in their tap water. And boiling your water will not get rid of any flouride, chemicals, heavy metals or toxins)

By using this you can avoid the flouride, heavy metals and unwanted chemicals in your drinking water. I'm getting mine soon! ( My house is 60 years old and the water has a touch of rust in it. So I want to avoid drinking that!! I also do not feel the need to expose myself to the other toxins and chemicals(like flouride) that are found in regular tap water)

The below is the link to buy this unit

http://www.ecoloblue.com/

The below is a link to youtube. Its a general walk through of this unit. (Use google)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CpWWQNHBgQ
 Chiny®™©

Joined: 7/2/2006
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Posted: 6/23/2009 9:02:52 AM

If you don't want flouride in your drinking water, buy a EcoloBlue. The EcoloBlue unit is a Atmospheric Water Generator that takes water vapor from the air and converts it into drinking water.


Ohhhhhh...........I dunno! What about constant farters? You know that "odors" contain the molecules of the smell that your nose is detecting? eg......when you smell a decomposing body, you are actually detecting the molecules carried in the air and originating from that corpse. Same with a fart, your breathing a gas emanating from decomposing vegetable and animal matter originating in the bowels of the fartee.


I'm getting mine soon!


Ya sure ya don't wanna think about some more?


So I want to avoid drinking that!!


Yep, I know what ya mean.
 jed456

Joined: 4/26/2005
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Posted: 6/23/2009 9:28:00 AM
Gen. Jack D. Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?


On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.

I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.


Gen. Jack D. Ripper: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Well, no, I can't say I have, Jack.

Dr.Strangelove

General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
General Jack D. Ripper: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No.
General Jack D. Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 6/23/2009 12:11:47 PM
Many think there are no Commies.....

Commies are very clever.

They are stealing essence............

Not mine...

Stop the Reds and Pinko's

...No more fluoridation

.........Jack
 jed456

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Posted: 6/23/2009 10:56:29 PM
Many think there are no Commies.....

Commies are very clever.

They are stealing essence............

Not mine...

Stop the Reds and Pinko's

...No more fluoridation

lol Now that was pretty funny!
 rocketsOD

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Posted: 6/27/2009 6:53:12 PM
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OK I know this is an old thread ... however, with the recent overdosing of the water with approx 30times the 'recommended' dosage to the water in Pine Rivers Brisbane.
Whats going on??

This is a link to information about flouride and the medical facts from doctors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYU-Qcp3n5Y&feature=channel_page

I dont feel very easy about it especially when my grandchildren live in that area.
Are there any scientific or medical people out there who can give there personal slant on this subject??

Knowing a 'little' about neuro-toxins like flouride, I know it is very difficult to pinpoint the symptoms as they r varied in type and severity. It has been suggested the more 'modern' diseases such as chronic fatigue (fybromyalgia) and Lupus could be caused by the overload of such neurotoxins as mercury and flouride in our environment.
Whats your take on the subject?? Should we be allowing the government to make medical decisions for us?? They already blackmail us into immunising our children by denying FTB to anyone who refuses or cant provide proof their child has been imuniosed?? Whats that all about?? Should we be allowing a mass medicating of the population??
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 *motown*cowgirl*

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Posted: 6/28/2009 4:50:44 AM
fluorides are a toxic by-product of the aluminum mining industry. back when Alcoa was going gangbusters during the heydey of the industrial revolution and before the EPA came along, cows were dropping dead in the fields from flouride poisoning. some genius figured out that small amounts of fluoride seemed to have a small, temporary, positive effect on the incredible rates of decay that were being seen in children's teeth, never mind that their diets were complete & total shit in the first place. in a nutshell, that's how fluoride became good for you.

the effects of fluoride poisoning are cumulative. there is circumstantial evidence that links aluminum toxicity to alzheimer's disease. could it be that it's not aluminum per se, but a lifetime of consuming flouridated toothpaste & water? goddamn me to hell for such impertinent questions!

and never mind that in the best of all possible worlds, fluoride is a DRUG that is routinely dumped into the water supply without regard to age, weight, pre-existing conditions and all the other factors that any sane & competent doctor on the planet takes into consideration before writing a prescription for your ass. you can also go ahead and ignore the fact that the so-called research results were flawed and debatable at best, and faked outright at worst, and that Crest comes with a warning label saying that if you should happen to swallow a significant amount of the stuff you should call a poison control center immediately. everybody else does.

 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 6/28/2009 6:10:28 AM
Why the heck would you go to a youtube video for your information about something as complex as medical issues? The reality is that while some conspiracy groups and rabidly anti communist groups like the John Birch Society who are anti fluoride claim that it's somehow bad for us (neurotoxin sounds scary until you realize how many substances are neurotoxic at vastly higher quantities) they always fail to provide any evidence and simply state a series of leading questions which they then fail to answer.


Knowing a 'little' about neuro-toxins like flouride, I know it is very difficult to pinpoint the symptoms as they r varied in type and severity. It has been suggested the more 'modern' diseases such as chronic fatigue (fybromyalgia) and Lupus could be caused by the overload of such neurotoxins as mercury and flouride in our environment.
Whats your take on the subject?? Should we be allowing the government to make medical decisions for us?? They already blackmail us into immunising our children by denying FTB to anyone who refuses or cant provide proof their child has been imuniosed?? Whats that all about?? Should we be allowing a mass medicating of the population??


If a person is too stupid to vaccinate their children against things like Polio, damned right there should be consequences. As for fluoride in the water. Feel free to drink out of puddles if you don't want the government making medical treatment for you. If you hate government involvement so much then water treatment obviously is some decision that was taken away from you, it's just sad that your disease ridden rotten tooth children might not appreciate it.
 mungojoe

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Posted: 6/28/2009 12:17:37 PM
Knowing a 'little' about neuro-toxins like flouride, I know it is very difficult to pinpoint the symptoms as they r varied in type and severity. It has been suggested the more 'modern' diseases such as chronic fatigue (fybromyalgia) and Lupus could be caused by the overload of such neurotoxins as mercury and flouride in our environment.
Whats your take on the subject?? Should we be allowing the government to make medical decisions for us?? They already blackmail us into immunising our children by denying FTB to anyone who refuses or cant provide proof their child has been imuniosed?? Whats that all about?? Should we be allowing a mass medicating of the population??

There is not an element on Earth that is not toxic to humans and many fall into the category of neurotoxin (lead, mercury, aluminum, silver, gold, nickel, etc.) to some degree. Even the very elements and compounds we ABSOLUTELY NEED to maintain health and life itself are fatally toxic (potassium, sodium, calcium, chlorine, oxygen, WATER, B Vitamins, etc.) to human life.

The only issue at hand is: In what degree?

Of course fluoride is toxic in excessive amounts, pretty much everything is but, until we can find a better, even less toxic (but, most likely still toxic in its own right) way of fixing calcium it is the only reliable method for the purpose it is used for. Let's not forget that toothdecay itself can be toxic and life-depriving.

And, incidently, for all those making this "big deal" of the ALCOA connection, the fluorides used to fluoridate water and toothpaste contain ZERO aluminum. The forms used are (originaly) sodium fluoride and (now) acids and salts of fluorosilicates (either sodium or hydrogen attached to fluorine and silicon).
 RealityAlways

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Posted: 7/13/2009 2:09:46 PM
For the true intellectuals out there investigate how fluoride effects the pineal gland.
 motownmaniax

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Posted: 8/8/2009 1:08:04 AM
I'm reminded of another scene in Dr. Strangelove when Group Captain Mandrake explains to General Jack Ripper about the fluoride treatment of water being completely safe. Ripper thinks it a Communist conspiracy to impurify our precious bodily fluids...lol.

"Now look at me, Jack? Do I look all rancid and clotted? And I drink a lot of water, y'know. I'm what you might call a water man, Jack. That's what I am. And I can swear to you there's nothing wrong with my bodily fluids, not a thing."

Since fluoridated water has been around for decades and has shown absolutely no overwhelming evidence of chronic harm is evidently lost on skeptics. Thirsty, off to drink some fluoridated water...BRB.
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