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Posted: 7/13/2006 1:37:03 PM | the women who complain about porn........u have all your millions of toys galore and stores every few blocks for ur pleasure, purchaes your king kong dildos and vibrators 3 times the size of an average guy, get to have another "mantoy" inside of u on top of your guy himself, and you are complaining about a man watching a porn, something he cannot even touch, use on him self or anything??....... unreal lol can u be any more selfish? lol
come on that is like not even something to even complain about...when a woman complains about that to me I just laugh.....i'll say, "so what if the guy has all his thousands of toys to play with and u didn't how insecure would u be than?" lol......yea thought so......
at least most men i would have to say likes when a woman uses her toy with a guy, so I wouldn't be whining about men and porn....GET OVER IT....GET OFF THE INSECURE WAGON.....enjoy it with him and if they are like me, i can only watch somuch before it's untolerable and too erotic, so I shut it off and go crazy on the person I am with.... | |
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Posted: 7/13/2006 1:39:48 PM | I enjoy when my man watches porn.. i enjoy watching him jerking off to porn too!!!!
Nothing wrong with it, we all have our little fantasies.. I think it is better than him going out and dropping his load in someone elses receptacle.. so as far as I am concerned he can jerk away any time he wants. | |
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Posted: 7/13/2006 7:48:32 PM | | he he i love it...i'm away a lot and a guy gotta do what he gotta do...there is no shame in it none, we talk about it openly...lol i have actually put it on and masturbated to it on the couch while he was in the living room on his computer. i wish he would have joined me but he just laughed at me and joked bout how i cant keep my hands off myself | |
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Posted: 7/13/2006 8:09:33 PM | | Humans weren't created to just be attracted to 1 person, and if one option is wacking off and the other is ****ing other people......depending on the relationship the first one should be fine with the girl or the guy | |
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Posted: 7/13/2006 8:28:34 PM | | I figure women (or men for that matter) shouldn't worry if their partner jerks off to porn. If they jerk off to Livestock magazines or humane society pamphlets, then you should worry....and run...and change your name.....and get tested for stuff no human should be tested for. | |
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Posted: 7/13/2006 9:56:36 PM | Okay, I'm sorry to be a "wet blanket," and I know I'm not going to change anyone else's mind. I also know I'm going to prompt a lot of heated replies, but here goes:
One demographic group that's obviously (and sadly) missing here is Christians. Yeah, you know, those people who go to church on Sundays. Though none of the people who have posted here, and maybe none of those who have read the postings (probably because of the nature of the title of the forum), seem to be members of the Christian community, there are still a lot of wonderful Christian women (and men) out there. I think, to a person, those who are sincere about their faith will be found on the "strongly against" side of this issue.
Believe me, I'm not trying to say that I'm perfect, or that any of my Christian brothers or sisters are perfect, I'm just trying to post an opinion that hasn't already been represented here.
Anyway, you may or may not know that Jesus said that anyone who looks upon another lustfully has already committed adultery in his (or her) heart. I've seen a lot of postings that say, "I'd rather he do that than to be out there with another woman." Well, whether you admit it or not, he's already there in his (or her) heart (or mind). If he sees that you are supportive of his lusts, who's to say that won't encourage him to take it a step further? I know not all guys (or girls) will do this, but I promise you, some will. Can you be sure your partner won't? Whether or not he shares his fantasies and pornography with you, I guarantee you he won't share the fact that he has a mistress.
What ever happened to the good old days when a man's wife or a woman's husband was enough? Those were the days when dear old dad would come home to dear old mom (for the younger crowd, I guess this rule would apply to your grandparents), give her a kiss, and enjoy life together with the kids.
I've also seen a lot of people here writing, "It's just porn!" Well, okay, it's just porn, but if you adopt that philosophy, why not say, "It's just prostitution," or "It's just adultery," or "It's just bigomy," or even, "It's just pedophilia"? I'm sure you're thinking they're not the same thing. No, they're not, but gradual acceptance of one vice leads to gradual acceptance of another. Think of your parents or grandparents. Do you think they had a porn collection? Think next of your children. What types of collections will they have?
Before anyone gets in an uproar, please know that I'm not trying to point a finger at anyone or step on any toes. Like I said, I just wanted to post an opinion that hadn't been represented here previously. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 3:54:37 AM | Seeker20060001, I respect your opinion. I find it prosaic, but I respect it.
Jimmy Carter knows the verse about lusting in the heart, as he stated in his Playboy interview. He seems to have survived the shock of realizing he might find others attractive, but not act upon the thought.
As for the "good old days", they're mythos. I know, I know - hard to believe, but people have enjoyed physical beauty for aeons. It wasn't noted quite as frequently, nor was there as much opportunity to act upon it, but it existed. To think otherwise would be akin to personifying the ostrich.
Perhaps the least-followed verse, and yet the greatest to me, is the one that begins, "Judge not...."
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Posted: 7/14/2006 5:45:00 AM | @seeker....
it's called "self control" just because they are watching porn doesn't mean they will go out and commit adultry lol....so a woman using a dildo and her toys, what does that tell you? They going to run out and find a guy to jump on cuz they are using their toys? NOT...They are actually using a foreign object other than their partner, to whome a guy watching porn is NOT....you want to make porn and issue than why are toys never an issue? yea thought so.....I love both with someone....it's called creativity.
U gonna sit there and tell me that watching Skinamax is bad for a persons soul and committing mental adultry too? Why not get rid of all nudidy in the world so that no ones mind deviates from another before them. The people committing adultry or any other form of straying I think has nothing to do with porn.....
If u have self control, know what's right and wrong, have common sense, and on and on, than you should be able to do things without being influenced by porn lol....I mean come on.....better not watch movies with guns or u might have a feeling of going out and shooting someone....
Porn is an avenue for a couple who might be looking for new ways, more creative ways to spice up a relationship maybe, or to add a little spark....yea there's a ton of other ways, but there never is just "one way".....not everyone is Ken and Barbie as a significant other either, so having a little eye candy to rev the engines, theres nothing wrong with it to me.....better than going out to a tittie bar and trying to hook up with a dancer or going on a dating site secretly to find yourself some strange......
If you want to live in a bubble than more power to you lol...but it's porn it's not the devil.......any woman who doesn't like porn, I go, "so do you have toys?" and she's like yes, and so I go hmmmmmm I don't want you cheating on me with BOB, and see their face light up......im joking of course cuz I'm never serious when I say that.
.....like I said, you all have your millions of toys, we have our porn....if us men had a million toys to play with you would still be whining...do u ever see the men whining about u having your toys? rarely...you don't hear them complaing because you have a dildo 3 times the size of the average man do you? yea thought so....if it was reversed I think you women would still be complaining about something...lol....amazing | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 7:47:20 AM | | I think it is awsome that your boyfriend is secure enough in your relationship to be that open with you. I think the number one key to a healty bond is a happy sex life for both of you. As long as he has he needs met than he will be more than willing to do same for you and if watching porn is what he needs to that, than more power to him. He is your man not your child and can do what ever he wants. So you get your freak on girl and don't worry about what other people say. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 7:52:51 AM | | My ex girlfriend hated porn whenever she would discover that I look at porn on the internet she made a real big deal of it. That I was sick needed counseling because men who watch porn are considered cheaters in her mind. But the weird thing was she had 4 different affairs when we were together which I felt was a lot worse then me watching porn at home at least I wasn't acting out on it. Needless to say we broke up because of her idea of healthy sex life. My current girl friend loves porn and our relationship couldnt be better. I dont think porn is bad if you are with a partner that understands that it is just a movie. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 7:55:22 AM | Yes, I agree with twoshadows. My guy was having a problem getting it hard for us to have sex and said earlier in the day he had jerked off twice watching a porn.
I said to him that he should have saved the that for me knowing he was coming over to see me. He said he had woken up horny and had to jerk.
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Posted: 7/14/2006 9:06:35 AM | one of the funniest celeb comments I ever read was when Gwyneth Paltrow mentioned
something like "when guys jerk off to my picture" Ha ha ha! (actually, as she has noted,
her ass doesn't look great in pics and I don't remember ever jerking off to her, but it was
worth a laugh)
as a courtesy I mentioned to my lover that I hadn't known if we were getting together so
earlier in the day I had jerked off -- she said thanks for the info (let her know how much
more work she'd have to do to climax me during the blow job, for instance) -- never have
needed porn, though, my imagination is so vivid... try to stop the naked pictures in my
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Posted: 7/14/2006 9:15:57 AM | | As long as its not animal porn and he isn't humping the family pet then I don't see the harm...its natural...way of releasing tension and it means I don't have to put out...so there... | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 1:30:36 PM | | I beat my dik like it owes me money....if a 'girlfriend' had a problem with it, she best be bringing an alternative solution | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 2:07:04 PM | "As for the 'good old days,' they're mythos. I know, I know - hard to believe, but people have enjoyed physical beauty for aeons. It wasn't noted quite as frequently, nor was there as much opportunity to act upon it, but it existed."
Thank you, "annudderhohummale." I appreciate your opinion and respect it as well. However, I never said pornography hadn't been around for a long time. I've studied art history pretty extensively, so I know it's been there almost as long as man (and woman) has been on the planet. To clarify, I was referring to "the good old days" of a more morally conservative America. "Mythos" doesn't apply there. If you think it does, I would ask you if you were there.
I WAS there, and I remember a safer, friendlier, happier world. I'm not claiming that there was no pornography or sexual experimentation/expression in the American past that I remember or prior. I know better. I'm just stating that in my little portion of the world, and I think in the majority of the rest of it, those elements were absent. Regardless of what you may think, morals have declined in this society at an alarming rate (alarming to me, at least).
I know that society and media always claim that morality has remained constant throughout history, but it's not true. It has been alternately strengthening and weakening since the day the second apple was plucked from the tree. Strangely, history also records that pornographic images, and immoral behavior in general, have increased sharply within a short time-span of the fall of almost all past societies. I don't necessarily think that pornography caused these types of events, but I surely don't think it helped, and I don't think any other intelligent person could claim that it did.
I already addressed self-control and this forum is not really about sexual toys, so I won't spend a lot of time addressing those issues here. However, one other person seems to be under the impression that I'm against pornography, but in favor of toys. I guess this means that he thinks I'm female. Did it ever occur to you that I might be male? Personally, I place both of these issues in the same category.
Oh, and by the way, I'm also a big fan of the "Judge not, lest ye be judged" scripture. But I don't think I'm being judgemental. At least not of any specific person. As I stated twice before, and now for the third time, I'm just stating an opinion that had not already been expressed.
Funny, though, I do feel like I'm BEING judged! | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 5:04:18 PM | To clarify, I was referring to "the good old days" of a more morally conservative America. "Mythos" doesn't apply there. If you think it does, I would ask you if you were there. I am a full decade older than you - of course I recognize the era. Perhaps you are correct, "mythos" may not be a good fit - more "mythopeic."
I would agree that the times at least appeared more morally conservative, and certainlly were compared to today. Does that make them "good old days"? *Shrug* Hindsight is 20-20, and rose-colored glasses seem to be most oft-worn when looking back.
I can't agree that those were the "good old days" even sexually when some lovers could not express that love for fear of reprisal. To me, love is love, and a reason for celebration, not a time for hesitation.
Visual stimulation, in the form of erotica (not necessarily pornographia), as we both agree, has been with us since time-immemorial. Where we perhaps part is whether it has ever truly waned, or whether it simply was forced underground by strictures.
Then again, perhaps I'm just playing devil's advocate.
I'm sorry you feel that you are being judged negatively - that certainly was not my intent. But I don't think you truly could expect so varied an opinion to be accepted routinely.
Best wishes to you.
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Posted: 7/14/2006 5:30:38 PM |
Anyway, you may or may not know that Jesus said that anyone who looks upon another lustfully has already committed adultery in his (or her) heart. I've seen a lot of postings that say, "I'd rather he do that than to be out there with another woman." Well, whether you admit it or not, he's already there in his (or her) heart (or mind). If he sees that you are supportive of his lusts, who's to say that won't encourage him to take it a step further? I know not all guys (or girls) will do this, but I promise you, some will. Can you be sure your partner won't? Whether or not he shares his fantasies and pornography with you, I guarantee you he won't share the fact that he has a mistress. - Seeker20060001
That's because Jesus was wrong.
Talk about an unpopular opinion? You bet. But anyone who tells you that thinking about something is JUST as bad as doing something is seriously whacked in the head. Or got whacked in the head. Or dropped on his head as an infant.
You can't get an STD from a fantasy. You can't get a fantasy pregnant. You can't start a relationship with a fantasy.
So yes, Virginia, there is a difference between thinking about something and doing it. If you had a choice, would you rather I think about shooting you in the chest with a .44 magnum? Or would you rather I do it? Or are you indifferent because they're both the same thing, and one is just as bad as the other?
If the best wisdom you've got to offer is a slippery slope analogy - "Hey, if you don't drop the hammer on porn hard and fast, he'll be wanting to rape goats with a midget in an orgy and post it online!" - then maybe it's best that your point of view wasn't represented previously in the discussion, because overall, the talk was reasonable and sane up to now.
What ever happened to the good old days when a man's wife or a woman's husband was enough? Those were the days when dear old dad would come home to dear old mom (for the younger crowd, I guess this rule would apply to your grandparents), give her a kiss, and enjoy life together with the kids. - Seeker20060001
Those good old days are a myth, and if you can get an older person to talk about things the way they really happened, instead of the Focus on the Family sanitized version of the past, you'll see that. People were cheating on their husbands/wives back then, just like now, and there was porn, and hookers - just like now.
You aren't going to make anyone any better by mythologizing a past that never existed.
I've also seen a lot of people here writing, "It's just porn!" Well, okay, it's just porn, but if you adopt that philosophy, why not say, "It's just prostitution," or "It's just adultery," or "It's just bigomy," or even, "It's just pedophilia"? I'm sure you're thinking they're not the same thing. No, they're not, but gradual acceptance of one vice leads to gradual acceptance of another. Think of your parents or grandparents. Do you think they had a porn collection? Think next of your children. What types of collections will they have? - Seeker20060001
More slippery slope BS. So if a guy is looking at Playboy one day, he'll probably be raping children in a year or two?
Yes, some of our grandparents had porn collections. Yes, many of them had affairs. And yes, our children will probably have porn collections, too.
And the world will keep turning, and people will keep wringing their hands. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 5:42:55 PM |
To clarify, I was referring to "the good old days" of a more morally conservative America. "Mythos" doesn't apply there. If you think it does, I would ask you if you were there. - Seeker20060001
You're only 42 years old! You're not old enough to wax nostalgic, yet. You were born in 1964 on the cusp of the Vietnam War. That means you weren't "there," my friend. You experienced a small slice of life, and you were in your teens in the 70s. Your experience would have been significantly different if you'd been a black man, say, growing up in Alabama, or a gay man growing up anywhere at all.
While you were growing up, Americans were dying by the THOUSANDS and their names listed on television every day, and you're talking about a more peaceful, morally pure America?
What planet are you from?
I WAS there, and I remember a safer, friendlier, happier world. I'm not claiming that there was no pornography or sexual experimentation/expression in the American past that I remember or prior. I know better. I'm just stating that in my little portion of the world, and I think in the majority of the rest of it, those elements were absent. Regardless of what you may think, morals have declined in this society at an alarming rate (alarming to me, at least). - Seeker20060001
No, it wasn't. It was a scary time when young men were afraid of being drafted and sent overseas to fight in a losing war that makes our present experience in Iraq look like a Sunday afternoon tea party. You grew up in the 60s when people were experimenting with free love, and living in communes.
I know that society and media always claim that morality has remained constant throughout history, but it's not true. It has been alternately strengthening and weakening since the day the second apple was plucked from the tree. Strangely, history also records that pornographic images, and immoral behavior in general, have increased sharply within a short time-span of the fall of almost all past societies. - Seeker20060001
Thank you, Edward Gibbons. But no, it's not a myth perpetuated by the media or society. The world has always had whores and sexual immorality, and there has always been blackness and sin in the human heart. Your Bible says so. There is NOTHING new under the sun.
Your attitude isn't even Biblical. Are you sure you're a Christian?
Funny, though, I do feel like I'm BEING judged! - Seeker20060001
That's because, like a lot of Christians when they first enter online discussions, you probably entered it with a martyr's complex - you come by it naturally, I'm sure - and assume that everyone is against you, and that this is a good thing.
In any online discussions, ideas have to EARN their place to be heard, and respected. Yours are no different, and if you followed many of the discussions on this forum, you will see sharp disagreement between people of all backgrounds and sorts.
Sorry. No judgment for you. You're just like everyone else. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 11:29:32 PM | I don't want to continue this beyond this thread, so I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that I won't. This forum is supposed to be about women's opinions of men masturbating to pornography and I think we've gotten way off the intended path.
Each person who has posted a thread here has a valid opinion. Like fingerprints, though, no two opinions are exactly alike. Thus, this has developed into a debate that has little to do with the subject. But...
Jesus was wrong? Whacked? Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's fairly obvious that you don't even understand what He was talking about. He was not referring to the obvious damaging physical effects of sinful actions; He was referring to the damaging effects of sin, any sin, on the immortal human soul. Since any sin is enough to condemn a man (or woman) to Hell, the effect of fantasizing about the sin is just as bad (again, to the soul) as actually committing it. Thus, He was correct in His assessment.
Also, I'm kind of tired of stating this, but again, I never said there wasn't sin or corruption, sexual or otherwise, in the past. As a matter of fact, I indicated that I knew that there has been "since the second apple was plucked from the tree." I simply stated that it was currently on the upsurge in our society.
And by the way, I don't know where you guys grew up, but things HAVE changed quite a bit in my 42 years. Maybe I was sheltered or just naive beyond reason. I don't know. But I do know that things were better when I was growing up. Not ideal, just better. Less crime, less violence, less hatred, less exploitation. I, for one, miss that.
I'm also not sure of anything regarding your respective families. I don't know them. I do know my own family, though, and there were no pornography collections or adulterous affairs. Again, I'm not saying it didn't happen to some people, just not to my family or, for that matter, to anyone else I knew.
Well, let's just agree to disagree. I've stated my opinion, you've stated yours. I also indicated in my first posting that I didn't think I would change anyone's mind. I guess you're my proof.
For what it's worth, I do wish you well and I hope that whatever quests either of you may initiate in your lives in search of enlightenment will be rewarded with just that. As always, I pray that mine will as well. | |
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