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| Golddiggers and paranoia
Posted: 12/5/2007 12:20:53 AM | OP....
I don't think money has everything to do with what a woman wants... :)
I've dated guys who were well off and guys were were not so well off...i've had well off men pursue me to no avail because of their personalities.....
point blank...in the long run money doesn't matter in choosing who you WANT to spend the rest of your life with. Then again, money really does bring a sense of security, which women innately desire....
Personally, I'm headed in the right direction, I make enough for myself at the moment, and only plan on making more with my education and my future career....I'm not looking for a rich man but i'm looking for a man on the same track......I cannot see myself marrying a man making 20 or 30 grand less than myself....
but then again some of those guys with thick ass wallets really piss me off (AM I THE ONLY LADY OUT HERE WHO THINKS IT SHOWS A LACK OF CLASS TO FLAUNT THE DESIGNER LABEL AND SALARY?) Gold diggers should be alone at least until they realise money does NOT make the man. | |
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| Golddiggers and paranoia
Posted: 12/5/2007 12:22:46 AM | You are young, supragirl.
You will soon realise how much stuff costs, and how hard you have to work to make more than min wage.
And then you won't think of yourself as wanting money, just entitled to some of the finer things. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 12:29:36 AM | | women have to deal with pervs,we have to deal with this.when a girl asks me what i do for a living i tell her ..work.if she asks again soon after i say have a nice day and good luck.wouldnt matter to me how much money i had so it shoulnt matter to you. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:00:44 AM | | Yes, because you can't help who you fall in love with when you fall hard. Love, Titus | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:49:40 AM | | The simple answer...absolutely...but that's just me. The quality of the person is far more important then what they got. I actually rather have the simple life and less drama...then the life with all the glory and glamour. When friends tell me they want to marry rich...I ask them...have you met one!?!? From my experience...they're not the best people. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 2:32:27 AM | 1) use the old car 2) go low budget for starters.... if all goes well
try again ......  ........... i got burned being nice | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 2:49:58 AM |
women have to deal with pervs,we have to deal with this.when a girl asks me what i do for a living i tell her ..work.if she asks again soon after i say have a nice day and good luck.wouldnt matter to me how much money i had so it shoulnt matter to you.
You know, sometimes women are interested in your profession because it says a lot about you, or they want to make conversation, or because they'd like to express an interest in your life rather than simply talk about themselves all night. Its not ALWAYS about money.  | |
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| Golddiggers and paranoia
Posted: 12/5/2007 3:03:41 AM | I always ask what do you do.......the sub question is
Do you like what you do?
Is your work interesting?
Maybe we start a conversation on one aspect of who you are.
I have just recently been brushed off because of that very question.......paranoia is unbecoming........makes me think the person is very arrogant to presume I care what's in his wallet.
I will pass, I don't have any time to waste with anyone who can't be natural and will continually try to second guess the least of my questions. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 4:49:26 AM | There was another similar thread. Again, * I * personally do not understand why "what do you do* is such a loaded question. It is like any other question -" do you have kids?"" Do you have a family/siblings?" "Where did you go to school?" Those are not off limits I hope???
Why oh why should that be any different? Answer honestly and spare yourself and others some disappointment.
Men think "what do you do for living" implies *how much you make*?
What it implies *to me* is:
Does a person have a direction in life? have found something that they enjoy(more or less) AND that pays bills or they are "still looking for themselves" while living in their momma's basement last N years?
I'd expect men in late 30s-40to have that already figured out, or maybe be on their 2nd career.
If all that is golddigging, then let it be so.
Let it begin.. hehe...I know I am about to get stoned here. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 6:45:47 AM | and someone here has an apparent and severe "sour grapes" case. Makes me wonder - if they are so disillusioned re women and carry so much grudge, why are they on a DATING site? Unless, of course, thay have switched teams  , then my bad. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 9:15:28 AM |
and someone here has an apparent and severe "sour grapes" case. Makes me wonder - if they are so disillusioned re women and carry so much grudge, why are they on a DATING site? Unless, of course, thay have switched teams , then my bad.
Ah, the "if you don't want me you must be gay, hee hee" line.
No chica, I'm here because I, no longer giving a damn about women or relationships with them, can talk about the 900lb gorilla in the room the cowed boys who are scared of saying the wrong thing and therefore putting themselves in the celibacy box won't.
Sometimes women here ask questions and never get a straight answer, cause she won't like the answer. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 10:58:08 AM | Did all the guys on here asked you to vindicate all their misfortunes with women? Just curous. And no, Lord forbid, I would not ever think in terms of "if he does not want me then he must be.. " because I am adult enough to know well that people have different tastes and preferences which may or may not include moi. But this IS the dating site, and sounds like you don't like ANY female, so...
thanks for volunteering in your advocacy efforts 
I do realize you probably need to see to belive, and apparently you only see what you choose to see. Very human.. So I can only try (likely in vain) to tell you that there are plenty of women who are NOT after someone else's money, stuff, house etc. On the other hand, they expect a man to be self supportung and on his feet enough that she would not have to become a momma to an overgrown boy, but rather go on enjoying their life and relationship together as two mature responsible adults. So why get sooo indignant about simple question? I think it only can be explained by not having a plausable answer and immediately golddigger labels start being slapped liberally. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 11:29:04 AM | I am a GOLD DIGGER, and have been for 44 years!!! I have been digging for a HEART of GOLD!! Obviously I haven't found my Man with a heart of gold thus far, wish me luck!  | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:06:26 PM |
Did all the guys on here asked you to vindicate all their misfortunes with women? Just curous. And no, Lord forbid, I would not ever think in terms of "if he does not want me then he must be.. "
No more than I asked you for your unsolicited attempts at psychoanalysis.
because I am adult enough to know well that people have different tastes and preferences which may or may not include moi. But this IS the dating site, and sounds like you don't like ANY female, so...
Yeah, and there's a lot of young and clueless men unaware that women are only out to **** up and exploit the men around them. Consider me as similar to the feminist who went around burning bras in stores in the 60s.
So I can only try (likely in vain) to tell you that there are plenty of women who are NOT after someone else's money, stuff, house etc.
LOL they're called nuns
On the other hand, they expect a man to be self supportung and on his feet enough that she would not have to become a momma to an overgrown boy, but rather go on enjoying their life and relationship together as two mature responsible adults. So why get sooo indignant about simple question? I think it only can be explained by not having a plausable answer and immediately golddigger labels start being slapped liberally.
I can support myself fine. I just ain't supporting YOU. That's a deal killer for women right there. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:20:10 PM |
If all that is golddigging, then let it be so.
Let it begin.. hehe...I know I am about to get stoned here.
stop promoting drug use in this thread.
hehehah
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:21:49 PM |
I can support myself fine. I just ain't supporting YOU.
Ahem....I don't recollect asking you (or anyone else for that matter) to support me...
The topic was why some guys become indignant when asked "what do you do?". So how is that supporting me?
Must be really disappointing when you come across someone who does not fit into your favorite definition | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:23:06 PM | I was using "you" in its general sense, not a specific one.
The answer is one you don't like- "so what do you do" is prima facie evidence that you're about to be judged and/or rejected on how much money you can and will give a girl QED | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:37:45 PM | | I don't think it matters how much money a guy makes. What it comes down to for me is that I work hard for my money and I don't think I could respect a man that didn't work and that had no money. And how can you be with anyone in any sense if you don't respect them? I've always said I don't care if you are flipping burgers at McDonalds are the CEO of a fortune 500 company as long as you freaking have a job and are trying. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:37:50 PM |
you're about to be judged and/or rejected on how much money you can and will give a girl QED
MY meaning behind asking such questions is not so much "how much"
but rather "how stable" "how together you are" and "are you responsible enough to actually hold a job" .
I know it is probably rather diffciult for you to see a distiction between trying to find out how stable and responsible a person is and golddigging (as you have apparently found your gospel and preaching it), so I will digress. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 1:50:20 PM | Unfortunately there are gold diggers out there and rich men more than willing to pay for the trophy. I live in Phoenix which is close to Scottsdale. I call it Snotsdale. My point is that Scottsdale is known for gold diggers who have artificial looks. They look like they just stepped off of a magazine cover. And they (and their parents in a lot of cases) don't invest all that money on their bodies for their own gratification. They do it to attract rich men: some are professionals and some are pro athletes.
Here's the kicker....I know two woman who are actually raising their daughters to be "pretty". They are not sending them to school. One is counting on her daughter's modeling talent and the other is counting on her daughter hooking up with a son of a rich professional that the parents are aquainted with.
Then there is the bling factor that popular culture tells us we MUST have. You can only own the best of the best to be accepted. Otherwise you're a poser.
So we have this:
1. Bling is in.
2. It takes cash to get bling.
3. It takes looks (ie rich husband) or an education to get cash.
People's priorities are all messed up and in the end we will have a generation of people who don't know what love means and are suing each other for half of the cash in order to fulfill their self absorbed lives. The women will be uneducated bimbos and the men will be out buying the red corvette at age 50 and buying mass quantities of "Just for Men" hair color so they can go pick up another trophy for the mantle.
How sad. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 2:27:27 PM | Luna -
I like Scottsdale. I was there on business in May and found the air and desert landscaping and the relative property values would net me a desert McMansion for what I could get a shoebox for in the District. Anyway...almost makes me miss Tucson...
Something I wanted to comment on:
3. It takes looks (ie rich husband) or an education to get cash.
I find this to be somewhat accurate. Over time I've noticed that"better" looking people are given more leeway in pretty much everything they do.
Example: In a constituents briefing there was a gentleman from my company that conducted a 15 minute talk. As I sat there I came to realize EVERYONE in the room was fixated on him...despite the fact he wasn't really saying anything. They even gave a standing ovation. When I discussed this with another coworker he commented that the speaker was over 6' with classic All-American looks that sprinkled in small anectodes about his quarterbacking days (I wish I made that up). So...in a room filled with highly intelligent business people, their objectivity of the relevance of what they were being told was thrown out the window, just because their speaker was pretty.
I find that freakin fascinating. I gotta go.
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Posted: 12/5/2007 5:33:23 PM |
but rather "how stable" "how together you are" and "are you responsible enough to actually hold a job" .
What about someone who is independantly wealthy? A trust fund baby with seven figures who doesn't work cause he doesn't have to? | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 5:52:01 PM | Bikerscum
you apparently didn't read what i wrote, because i never once said anything of the sort (WANTING MONEY? what?) | |
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| Golddiggers and paranoia
Posted: 12/5/2007 5:54:08 PM | I read what you wrote.
I said as you get older, your ideas about men having to have money will change. | |
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