| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/24/2007 10:36:48 AM | "First question is: Is 2 tattoos too many if a woman wants to remain feminine or classy?
And Next- Where is the world should I have it done if I have heard the following about tattoos on lower backs:
1. They are considered 'tramp stamps' 2. There are dangers affecting pregnancy if done in that region"
First question...are 2 tattoos too many to remain "classy" or "feminine' ?
Answer: Society tends to label women wearing tattoos as promiscuous and trashy as opposed to classy and feminine, so the more you have, the more likely you'll be labelled.
Second Question: Tramp Stamps...and pregnancy risks.
Answer: I've not seen anything anywhere about tattoos and pregnancy...but yes, the lower back tattoo on a woman is generally considered a signal of sexual availability and/or a liberal attitude towards casual sex. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/24/2007 12:48:41 PM | ...but yes, the lower back tattoo on a woman is generally considered a signal of sexual availability and/or a liberal attitude towards casual sex.
Oh really there Mr. Mannn Are you trying to be an ***hole, or does it just come naturally. I hope somebody slaps you good and hard for that.
It is not a question about the saftey during pregnancy.....it is an epidural that may or may not pose a risk | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/24/2007 2:35:29 PM | Boy oh boy Mr Mann thats opening up a can of worms lol
I think a tattoo on a ladies back is very attractive and sexy no way does it means shes a tramp myself I think it shows self confidents in her character | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/25/2007 3:53:35 AM | Mr. Mann... oh my. Put on your flame suit. j/k.
I don't have any tatoos, mostly because I'm a) a wimp b) worried how they'll look when I'm 60...
OT: I know quite a few classy women with tattoos... I can't see how one affects the other. I think that having a tattoo doesn't make you a tramp. Being a tramp makes you a tramp. If you're not one, then why on earth would having a tattoo in a certain spot all of a sudden make you one? Man - women have fought for decades for the right to make decisions about their own bodies. It's pretty sick that in this day and age men are still trying to dictate otherwise...
About the lower back tattoo - my only thought on it is that it's getting pretty overdone. Everyone and their dog has one... I think it's probably time for the next trend.
PS - I have heard women who have lower back tattoos refer to them as "tramp stamps". My only thought on that is that you should remember people will take you at your own estimation. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/25/2007 5:36:20 AM |
Man - women have fought for decades for the right to make decisions about their own bodies. It's pretty sick that in this day and age men are still trying to dictate otherwise...
Because of one mans opinion you say men are trying to dictate otherwise. I don't think so!!! Here is that word again...Generalizing!!!! | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/25/2007 7:10:17 AM | tell it Leafs...
First time I heard "tramp stamp" was from a group of women who were trying to denigrate a girl they saw and call her a slut. Mann didn't say what he thought it was but reiterated something you can find everywhere in popular culture, on movies, TV, and in magazines and called it generally accepted. My take was he was reporting it as such, not offering an opinion. To me, tattoos means nothing symbolic. However, its hard to deny that the use of "tramp stamp" to suggest the lower back tattoo means relaxed sexual attitude is everywhere and not just being propagated by men. (Google, "what does a tattoo on the lower back mean")
BTW, the pregnancy issue is that some doctors won't give an epidural through a tattoo. Its unclear whether it can cause infection or not. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/25/2007 7:17:13 AM | | I stand corrected. Some men. And even some women. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/25/2007 4:01:52 PM | Tattoo's are great on anyone;) female or male. I dont think any labels anyone - it's rather individuality...its a matter of what you like - not what everyone else likes.
I have one, and I love it - it's between my shoulders of CBI - something Im proud of. Im currently in the middle of getting a 2nd one designed, to be done in a few weeks. I can't Wait!
As for lower back...they look GREAT...I cant wait to get one...most consider them sexy, personally, ya i think they do look great on women. (no I am not a fan of women, I like men)
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/29/2007 5:03:39 AM | Sweetgin: "Oh really there Mr. Mannn Are you trying to be an ***hole, or does it just come naturally. I hope somebody slaps you good and hard for that."
Tattoos are used by their wearers to signify things...likewise, tattoos are are considered by the viewers as signifying things.
In the case of lower back tattoos on women....it's pretty much a universal truth they are considered a signal of sexual availability and/or a liberal attitude towards casual sex.
If you are trying to suggest that the public display of tattoos on fertile woman's pelvic regions is not an inherently sexually signififying act, I think you'd be hard-pressed to make any cogent alternate argument against the notion or would certainly be laughed out of any gathering of sociologists.
I'm sorry if that touches a nerve with you...but calling me names and wishing violence on me doesn't change the way society looks at women with butt antlers. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/29/2007 5:14:36 AM | that was a great insult at the end of your otherwise "insulting" post.
As far as a tattoo on the lower back being a public display......One would have to wear the " sexually available" clothes to make it visable.
Society will look at me the way I display myself in public. When I choose to show someone what is under my clothes ....Society will have nothing to do with it.
And when it is exposed to the person of my choosing....damn right I will be available. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/29/2007 5:35:11 AM | | That is a good point about the back tattoo Sweetgin. If you see a woman dressed up very prim and proper, in a suit etc. they could still have the tattoo but nobody would label them as "easy". It's all in how you present and think of yourself that gives off that image. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/29/2007 9:53:44 AM | See:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tramp+stamp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_back_tattoo
In spite of all the name-calling being done, the fact remains that the lower back tattoo is generally considered more suggestive and more sexual than most other popular female tattoo locations.
As it happens, I rather like lower back tattoos on a woman, along with pierced belly buttons and pierced nipples. Yum. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/29/2007 2:57:49 PM | Personally, I don't give a sh!t what anyone else wants to call a lower back tattoo or any other tattoo. I don't care if it's allegedly "sexually suggestive". As Sweet Gin said, it's only sexually suggestive if you're out flaunting the tat by wearing clothing that doesn't cover it. Even then, if you're concerned about what other people are going to think, then perhaps you should hide under a rock somewhere and never do anything without checking with "society" first. Screw that. I'll do what pleases ME, because in my world, I come first, not "society's" viewpoint.
No, I do not currently have any tattoos. Yes, I plan to get 4 of them. Yes, one is a lower back tattoo. I've waited all my life so far to get them, because I wanted to make absolutely certain that any ink I put on my body was going to be something I would never regret putting there, and that it would be something that meant something to me.
Honestly, it shouldn't matter what other people think it means, as long as you and those who are special to you, know what YOUR reason is for doing something. If it's not hurting anyone else, why the hell does it matter what other people think?
If someone is going to judge me, as a person, by whether or not I have ink in a specific place, they're too narrow minded for me to want to know them anyway, so no loss if they don't like my tattoos. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/29/2007 4:02:24 PM | | ^^^Awesome post and very well put. It's scary. You're starting to sound like me. lol. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/30/2007 10:07:46 AM |
If someone is going to judge me, as a person, by whether or not I have ink in a specific place, they're too narrow minded for me to want to know them anyway, so no loss if they don't like my tattoos.
But the female body is already a work of art (even if some of them are done on a bad canvas)
Tattoes just seem to cheapen it and ruin the perferction. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 9/30/2007 11:56:22 AM | You're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to mine. We disagree. That won't change. I'm not going to get involved in an argument, or debate, over this type of difference of opinion.
The fact that you feel tattoos cheapens a female body simply indicates that you are one of those who would be no loss, since you would obviously judge me, as a person, because of some ink that I chose to have placed on my body. Getting a tattoo won't change who I am, it won't lower my level of intelligence, or my morals and values so it shouldn't change anyone's opinion of me. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/3/2007 3:53:41 AM | To me tatoo's on a classy woman make's her even more sexy. So I say 4 or 5 are good. But don't come home looking like a painting. That's gross on anyone. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/3/2007 6:40:17 AM |
First question is: Is 2 tattoos too many if a woman wants to remain feminine or classy?
Since you asked for opinions...
One tattoo is too many if a woman wants to remain feminine or classy.
Regards, Mac | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/3/2007 1:37:15 PM | Though society tends to view tattoos on women with mixed messages (ranging from trashy to empowerful to hot) depending on the size, style and placement of the tattoo, there is also a centuries old tradition of the "feminine" tattoo, usually a small, discreetly-placed flower, butterfly, etc.
Personally, how I tattoos on women is a matter of individual taste...some tattoos on some women I like very much. Some I don't. We're all snowflakes, so everyone's different. | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/3/2007 3:16:25 PM |
We're all snowflakes, so everyone's different
I am thinking, 'flakes' more so than snowflakes. hehe...
Anyway I do not have any tattoos, and not sure if I would ever get one, but one never knows. And I don't think anyone should ever get their partner's name in ink! Yikes! But I do chuckle over those who think that a woman who has one is automatically tagged as a loose woman. And to those men who can't stand women who have them, it really cuts down your chances of finding a woman, as there are a LOT of women out there who have them! Broaden your minds gentlemen! Look over the canvas! Tattoos are forms of expression, period! | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/6/2007 6:59:07 PM | tattoos- an expensive sometimes painfull way of expressing your individuality although everyone seems to be getting them and you can choose your designs out of catalogues so the individual claim is somewhat diluted by this. Or you can go for your own, some chinese/japanese writing perhaps ( check menus first maybe?) There is only one good tattoo and that is in edinburgh! Full stop! | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/6/2007 8:33:39 PM |
The fact that you feel tattoos cheapens a female body simply indicates that you are one of those who would be no loss, since you would obviously judge me, as a person, because of some ink that I chose to have placed on my body. Getting a tattoo won't change who I am, it won't lower my level of intelligence, or my morals and values so it shouldn't change anyone's opinion of me AGREED! I got my tattoo when I turned 40 Did my morals, values & IQ suddenly change when the ink seeped into my skin
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/7/2007 10:10:03 AM | The fact that you feel tattoos cheapens a female body simply indicates that you are one of those who would be no loss, since you would obviously judge me, as a person, because of some ink that I chose to have placed on my body. Getting a tattoo won't change who I am, it won't lower my level of intelligence, or my morals and values so it shouldn't change anyone's opinion of me.
Your missing the point of what I posted.
If you think getting a tattoo improves who you are then you are mistaken. It is like buying jewelry or shoes to feel better. It is an artificial thing -- and in the long run you are stuck with it. I am simply trying to point out that tatoos do not improve someone. From an artistic point of view they ruin something that is already attractive -- especially when taken to the extreme as some tend to do..
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/7/2007 10:14:32 AM |
Your missing the point of what I posted.
If you think getting a tattoo improves who you are then you are mistaken. It is like buying jewelry or shoes to feel better. It is an artificial thing -- and in the long run you are stuck with it. I am simply trying to point out that tatoos do not improve someone. From an artistic point of view they ruin something that is already attractive -- especially when taken to the extreme as some tend to do.. Holy twisting what she said. Why can't a tattoo just be a part of who you are rather than something that cheapens you or improves you????? | |
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| Tattoos on Women Posted: 10/7/2007 10:48:10 AM |
From an artistic point of view they ruin something that is already attractive This is your opinion, not necessarily fact, which is proven by the amount of posts that have the opposite opinion. You're entitled to your opinion, certainly. However, please don't put words in my mouth (fingers?). I did not say that a tattoo improved anyone. I merely said that it does not change the person who is inside the body that has ink on it. This simple statement is fact, no matter how you or anyone else chooses to look at it.
Choosing to have a tattoo placed upon a person's body does not change who the person is inside, merely their outward appearance.
Let's not attempt to twist that statement, since it is a fact, regardless of who chooses to disagree. A person is either cheap, or they aren't. They are either sexually promiscuous, or they aren't. Having a tattoo of any kind, on any specific area of the body, does not change who they are any more than wearing a specific brand of jeans, or type of earrings would. If you, or anyone else, chooses to disagree with that, it simply means that you are a narrow-minded person who has pre-conceived notions of who a person is based on a judgment of their appearance. This would make you a bigot. Thinking someone is sexually promiscuous based on whether they have a tattoo, on their lower back or otherwise, is no different than thinking someone is a criminal based on their race. Perhaps those who feel that a lower back tattoo has to mean that the woman who has one is a tramp should consider that.
I'm not saying anyone has to like, or dislike, tattoos. I'm simply saying that no one should judge a persons morality based on whether or not they have ink. Judge people on their actions, not on their appearance. I'm not talking about attraction, that will always have some basis in appearance. I'm talking about who someone is. A person will not change their basic self simply because they got a tattoo. | |
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