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 girl with tats

Joined: 2/22/2007
Msg: 276
Tattoos on Women
Posted: 10/28/2007 8:53:58 AM
this is to mister mann onve again. Why when a women has a tattoo is she labeled slutty or a whore. I happen to be a grown adult with 3 adult children, I have tattoos and I am fair from slutty. Stereotypes are what come from morons......
 Mister Mann

Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 277
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Posted: 10/28/2007 7:17:02 PM
The labels weren't invented by me...you'll have to blame society for that.

I like some tattoos of course...not yours, but I do like some. It's a matter of personal taste, isn't it?

There's a good paper in the Canadian Review of Sociology & Anthropology that you might want to read to better understand the perception of abnormality and sexual deviance that goes with having tattoos...here's an excerpt:

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Tattooing and Civilizing Processes: Body Modification as Self-Control
Journal article by Michael Atkinson; The Canadian Review of Sociology and Anthropology, Vol. 41, 2004

Journal Article Excerpt
Tattooing and Civilizing Processes: Body Modification as Self-Control *.
by Michael Atkinson


NORTH AMERICA IS EXPERIENCING what some call a second "tattoo renaissance" (DeMello, 2000). As part of this revolution in the popular cultural significance of tattooed flesh, tattooing is ascending to unprecedented levels of popularity among a vast array of social groups. Once a long-standing symbol of the North American underclass, this "body project" (Shilling, 1993) is now a floating signifier of a full panorama of social statuses, roles and identities. The tattoo is blossoming as a polysemic symbol of Canadian culture, and is actively inserted into the identity politics of a melange of actors. More so than in any previous era, tattoos are, as Hebdige (1979) might describe, "pregnant" with cultural significance.

Sociologists and other academics, however, almost invariably describe tattooing as cultural deviance (Atkinson, 2003a; DeMello, 2000; Copes and Forsyth, 1993; Irwin, 2000). Studies of tattooing among the mentally challenged (Ceniceros, 1998; Measey, 1972), prisoners (Kent, 1997; Seaton, 1987), gang members (Rubin, 1988), and deviant youth subcultures (Atkinson, 2002), represent the tattoo as a badge of dislocated, ostracized, and disenfranchised communities. Apart from anthropological analyses of tattooing in Japanese, Melanesian, African, and Polynesian cultures (Gell, 1993; Kaplan and Dubro, 1986; Kitamura and Kitamura, 2001; Mascia-Lees and Sharpe, 1992), few social scientific studies portray tattooing as either rational or pro-social. Even comprehensive historical (Caplan, 2000; Gilbert, 2000) or ethnographic (DeMello, 2000; Irwin, 2000; Vail, 1999) analyses of the practice selectively link tattooed bodies to stigmatized populations. Tattooing is decoded as esoterically normative within the boundaries of historically marginal groups, as its profanity well represents group members' feelings of difference and exclusion. It is deciphered, in Cohen's (1955) terminology, as a deviant "collective solution" to sentiments of social inferiority.
 evermore1966

Joined: 10/16/2007
Msg: 278
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Posted: 10/29/2007 10:37:57 AM
tattoos on a woman are fine.
i think on the arms is a bit risque, but acceptable. the wrist is a perfect place for a tat.
lower back.. very sexy, as is the back of her neck and lower abdomen
 Aus_Roy

Joined: 5/27/2007
Msg: 279
Tattoos on Women
Posted: 10/31/2007 5:01:36 AM
I personally think your tatts are rather cool, 'girl with tatts'. Tried to tell you by email, but my age and gender precluded me from sending one. Dont give up yet, I am sure you will find someone younger that appreciates you, regardless or maybe because of your tatts..

regards
 Aus_Roy

Joined: 5/27/2007
Msg: 280
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Posted: 10/31/2007 5:03:49 AM
Dont you have a mind of your own, sport. Stop preaching about things you obviously know nothing about, except for something that you 'Googled' just to make yourself appear knowledgable!!!
 LBP

Joined: 7/4/2007
Msg: 281
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Posted: 10/31/2007 5:54:27 AM
@ Mistermann

I looked up a picture of the dude who wrote the article who just so happened is covered from head to toe in tattoos...full sleeves, the whole nine yards.

Perhaps his interpretation is somewhat biased considered he's a walking tattoo.

I think that even those who aren't turned off by the odd tattoo might have a different response to someone who is literally covered in them. I would imagine the author of the article goes through quite a bit of stereotyping himself seeing how he is an educated researcher/writer who probably gets judged as one of those social deviants by society's misinterpretations.

Considering the author has pretty much a full body tattoo, I would think the intent of the article was to point out the prejudices society has against those like him. I highly doubt its intent was to have his opinion used to promote the prejudice.

If tattoos aren't your taste, then own it. People have different tastes, that is life. If you are going to promote anything, how about not jumping to assumptions with no information? Otherwise, you might not have respected so much the research article you read had you first seen a picture of the guy who wrote it.

...just sayin...
 Mister Mann

Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 282
Tattoos on Women
Posted: 10/31/2007 6:15:00 AM
My personal opinion ( I like some tatts on some women) and society's preconceptions and labels about tatts on women (trash culture, fertility, fallen women,promiscuity, etc)...are two different things.

Sorry that distinction has been lost on you. Mea culpa. I should probably use smaller words, or a larger font.
 LBP

Joined: 7/4/2007
Msg: 283
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Posted: 10/31/2007 11:27:51 AM
If you want to go and use big words not commonly used to explain your thoughts (which can easily be explained by more common terminology) then go ahead. Ofcourse it goes against the whole concept of good writing but being an incompetant writer I'm sure that doesn't bother you. After all, you seem more interested in quoting other people's written thoughts and attempting to lord your questionable intelligence over other people anyway.

It's the kind of thing you think of when your goal goes beyond your own damaged ego.
This little inferiority complex you have is taxing on others. It doesn't go unnoticed so its something you might want to address if you want to 'appear' intelligent to people.

Otherwise, you might be facing a label yourself of a pretentious jerk who couldn't think his way out of a paper bag unless he google mapped it first.

If I was getting a tattoo I'd pick something meaningful to me, that I could live with and I really wouldn't care what people like Mr. Mann thought because I don't surround myself with poison people. I have worked long enough with academics and executives to know what does and does not really matter to them. 20 years ago, a tattoo and eye brow ring would have meant no employment...that is no longer the case.

The culture I work in does not frown upon tattoos on women quite so bad being they themselves have already been labelled by society. In the end, labels don't really matter, the person does. People will overlook a label if you can show them otherwise.

 oodless

Joined: 10/1/2007
Msg: 284
Tattoos on Women
Posted: 10/31/2007 2:33:55 PM
cease canineing atop mr mann.
 reallyniceguy4u

Joined: 1/13/2007
Msg: 285
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Posted: 11/4/2007 4:52:16 AM
As a tattoo artist........this is just down right ridiculous....sounds like a job for myth busters.
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