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 Coastergal

Joined: 7/24/2005
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Dating is all about income
Posted: 6/20/2006 8:51:11 AM
I think it's all a weeding out process.....

If you start talking to a woman and she is immediately asking what line of work your in... what kind of car you drive.... if you own or rent... RED FLAGS!!!!!

If she is asking.. about your interest... personality.... family...... then she's not after your money!

I had a GREAT 1st date that we met at a lil mexican chain that u dine inside but it was kind of fast foody... I didn't care because I enjoyed the company I was with......

Our 3rd date we met for ice cream really laste at night then danced in the parking lot! It was kind of romantical!

I think most women want attention.. they want to know that a man is interested (not in a smothering kind of way)
 prolibertate

Joined: 9/11/2005
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Posted: 6/20/2006 9:02:57 AM

they want to know that a man is interested (not in a smothering kind of way)


Exactly...I believe both men and women simply want to know that the other person is interested in *them*; that they're glad to be spending time with that particular person, e.g. that that particular person isn't just 'anybody'.
 avalanchefan65

Joined: 11/26/2005
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Posted: 6/20/2006 9:05:56 AM
OK, I'm having a tough time understanding some things I'm reading here. First of all this isn't the first time I've heard the women complaining about meeting men that don't have jobs or money!! What's up with that?? Any dude that thinks he's going to get a free ride from a woman is a LOSER! If your not already independantly wealthy, get a freakin' job. All of my friends have jobs, and make a good living because they work hard. I didn't realize there were that many losers out there!...Pretty pathetic!

Second, There used to be a day when a man would work his a$$ off for 3 weeks just to save enough money to take his favorite girl to the burger stand and a movie. I always pay for my date, especially if I asked her out first. It has nothing to do with how much money you have, it has to do with being a gentleman and showing that someone special a good time, even if it means picking up a couple of Big Macs and watching the sunset while you eat them. Sure I'll let a woman pay for a date but only after we've seen each other a few times. I NEVER expect them too...that's just tacky!
 Dru

Joined: 12/17/2005
Msg: 29
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Posted: 6/20/2006 9:18:54 AM
I am a reginonal manager and I date a cleaning lady. Sorry to shoot down your jaded theory
 Stargazer46

Joined: 1/18/2006
Msg: 30
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Posted: 6/20/2006 9:21:15 AM
As someone seeking romance, dating is zero about income and everything about physical, intellectual, and emotional attraction. There are men who are drop dead gorgeous but are ultimately going to suffer the consequences of unhealthful lifestyles. And there are men who are drop dead gorgeous and take care of their physical health. Ultimately, however, what comes out of their mouths determines what dating them is all about for me.

As for their income: it's a moot point. This is 2006. Women have jobs, pay taxes, and support themselves and their children. I would hope that the next great love of my life will lavish whatever he can on me every chance he gets. Because i intend to do the same. And we won't need a debit/credit notebook when this happens. We'll just need each other!
 just_Kats

Joined: 12/15/2005
Msg: 31
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Posted: 6/20/2006 9:32:10 AM

I am a reginonal manager and I date a cleaning lady. Sorry to shoot down your jaded theory


I'm sorry, it's not really my business, but is she American?
 daisie

Joined: 9/22/2004
Msg: 32
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Posted: 6/20/2006 9:44:12 AM
Dating is about different things to different people. To some people it is all about money. But many of us have much different ideas about dating priorities. You jsut need to find different people to date; someone who shares your values.
 Dru

Joined: 12/17/2005
Msg: 33
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Posted: 6/20/2006 9:46:41 AM
Juskats hey, no she is not American. She was born in Canada, but her family was originally from Trinidad. One of the coolest persons I have ever met. Everything is going great, but still early. She manages to raise two boys and keep a nice house clean and tidy. She doesn’t make a lot of money and is usually struggling to pay her bills each month. I have tried my hardest to help her out now and then, but she won’t let me. Doesn’t matter if it’s giving her some money to cover some bills or just doing the dishes after dinner so she can relax. She’s a very independent woman, doesn’t like to accept help from people, especially me, and so far that is our biggest problem which isn’t really all that big.

Why do you ask?
 Kari Sunnymama

Joined: 5/2/2006
Msg: 34
Dating is all about income
Posted: 6/20/2006 10:12:12 AM
I have a few friends who still want a man to take care of them and the men in their lives love doing it, it is a situation that works for them. I think it's sad for men or women to assume that the other is only interested in them if they have a great job or lots of money, or lack there of. In my experience if a man or woman has true self respect they won't care what anyone else thinks about how much or how little money they make, they will have enough confidence to know that they are loved for richer or poorer. If you feel that you must post profiles showing your upscale lifestyle, then that tells me that you are not confident that a person can love you no matter what. I have always been self sufficient which has either led men to mooch off of me (when I was young) or be threatened by it. However even though I am self sufficient I need to know that a man has a good income and more importantly a good sense of who he is with or without the money or great job. Money and beauty can be here today and gone tomorrow, but who you are as a person is what makes or breaks you in life. When I was younger, beautiful, and rich, I was naive and allowed men to use me because I felt that if I helped them out of their debts, or bought them cars, and saved them, it would make me feel better about myself and they would love me. I also had a great pair of fake breasts, (they are removed, just me now). I wasted several thousand dollars on that venture, but learned a great lesson. Now that I am older I am still independent, and alot more wise. I just need to know a man can stand on his own two feet also. It is nice to know that if you ever fall ill or lose your job, that your partner has enough strength to help you get back up if you need it. If two people are in love they must be able to trust eachother to be there in times of need. I may be old fashioned in this but I say talk about these things before going out and make sure you both are on the same page before wasting eachothers time.
Oh and by the way I firmly believe that if you're just looking for a quick hookup, the person who initiates the date should offer to pay.

If you feel mooched off of on the first date it's a good assumption that you are with a parasite.
 just_Kats

Joined: 12/15/2005
Msg: 35
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Posted: 6/20/2006 10:25:56 AM
I'm asking, Dru, because these kind of jobs are usually taken by immigrants. And those people are very often too smart or/and too educated to do this kind of job, but aren't allowed to do anything else.


She sounds like a quality woman, you don't let her go. :)
 justjimthen

Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 36
Dating is all about income
Posted: 6/20/2006 10:29:57 AM
I've heard it said that women trade sex for security. Whatever.

I went out with this one woman who said to me, my hand to God, "I can make you a better salesperson."

Hmm...if I wanted to spend time with my sales manager, I'd date him. And I ain't that lonely yet...!
 Eldermint

Joined: 5/27/2006
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Dating is all about income
Posted: 6/20/2006 10:41:55 AM
IMHO, people who make dating about one thing are losing out. Dating is not all about money but it plays a part same as sex, kids, age, looks, intelligence, demeanor, history, criminal record, employment, kissing prowess, ... you don't love someone for their bad points unless you are self-destructive.

It's a package. There will be some that's good and some that's bad. As the differences come out, it's all about whether you can both accept each other in your differences.
 ][KAOS][

Joined: 2/24/2006
Msg: 38
Dating is all about income
Posted: 6/20/2006 10:42:23 AM
Indianaman:
That's too bad those have been your experiences, you might want to try dating a different type of woman than those you have described here. Dating is NOT ALL ABOUT INCOME, and any intelligent, self-sufficient, mature woman would tell you that.
 lfrl

Joined: 3/30/2006
Msg: 39
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Posted: 6/20/2006 10:59:38 AM
OH BRAD 11 "women can't be equal to men, so we need to buy them stuff".tsk. tsk. tsk
 Dru

Joined: 12/17/2005
Msg: 40
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:06:12 AM
Ah yes I see where you were going with that Jus Kats, and very true. But I don't feel so bad for assuming you were from England now, because I am Canadian, not American. lol One of the biggest insults you can give some Canadians is too mistaken them for an American, and I would be one of those. But I won't hold it against you just cause your one of the good ones.
 Oscar15

Joined: 6/14/2006
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:11:23 AM
It's funny, I have a friend who own a very successful business and I do well managing 401(k)'s etc. We don't get much attention until they find out our occupations and suddenly we're very special to them. There are exceptions to every rule. Some older gent (in his 70's) described it this way...Women need security and stability from a man and income is a measurement of that in many women's eyes.
 just_Kats

Joined: 12/15/2005
Msg: 42
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:12:01 AM
Oh damn, thanks, Dru, I didn't check it first, sorry...
 rainbowfishh

Joined: 4/20/2006
Msg: 43
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:15:32 AM
sounds like someone has a low income

 indianaman

Joined: 9/25/2005
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:17:14 AM
If dating weren't about income there would be no homeless men because all the women who claim they can't get a date would be marrying them. Here in the conservative midwest you are judged by your income, although sometimes it is euphemised as "Protestant work ethic." Most of the "Women Seeking Men" personal ads in the local paper ask for a "financially secure" man. And to Leeanne who said "no one wants your freakin' money", I just graduated from college with my web design degree and I'm starting my own business so I'm broke now.
 cyclingmonk

Joined: 10/18/2004
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:20:38 AM
I found this thread very informative.... What Oscar was saying about stability is probably one of the reasons I'm a cyclingmonk-- in the last 2 years I've had twice as many jobs as first dates (with 0 second dates) and I keep going back to PA to be a pseudo-professional bike bum. But now I'll expect that I'll have more luck on the relationship front when I become more stable.

the cyclingmonk
 indianaman

Joined: 9/25/2005
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:31:12 AM
Let me amend my original post. Women want two things: money and semen. I was a member of a dating service "for busy professionals" called "It's Just Lunch" which cost about a $1000 to join. After several unsuccessful dates they cancelled my membership and gave me a disapointingly small refund because I was "unmatchable" for two reasons: 1) I wasn't "corporate" enough for their female members (this was where I met the woman who criticized me for not working overtime) and 2) I refuse to have children.
 Rebellious

Joined: 2/5/2006
Msg: 47
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:33:46 AM
I don't argue with Mother Nature -- men see women as sex objects, and women see men as money & power (as evidence of success). Women are free to flaunt their "assets", but it's difficult for a man to exhibit his success without seeming crass. On dates I usually pay for dinner, but if I wined & dined everybody I know I'd go broke (or end up looking like a "nice guy"). Women don't share their "assets" with me on a date, why should I share my money? :) Of course, there are various degrees of "asset" display. Some dates go like this: Miniskirt, no undies, flash him hard and often. In that case I may respond with my own territorial display (or not) . . . lol


Of course the whole point of dating is to find somebody with whom you can happily and voluntarily share everything. Frankly, the only protection against gold-diggers (of either gender) is if they already have their own money, that way you know for sure that they're with you because they WANT you and not because they NEED you.


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 T-Reat!

Joined: 6/13/2006
Msg: 48
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:34:35 AM

women can't be equal to men, so we need to buy them stuff.

What the fk is that!!??!!
 davidhdl

Joined: 6/19/2006
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:41:07 AM
Trust me on this one,Its not about money, just the amount of it.I was in a relationship based on money, what a lesson we learn, She told me to my face that her next relationship would be total forclosure on the amount of money that a guy has.I learned it was all about things, and more things, and massive amount of debit.She is on a site now staing that she is looking for a man with a certin income. Scary that it would come to money, but i guess it only comes down to the amount
 deflection

Joined: 5/29/2006
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Posted: 6/20/2006 11:44:33 AM
The dating service sounds like the sort of place that invites women looking for men of status, often measured in dollars or title. If you choose that kind of pond, you're likely to find that kind of fish. What kind of bait you using anyway? If your bait is all about your $$, status or possessions, then you're likely to find the kind of fish that goes for $$, status or possessions.
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