| Dating is all about income
Posted: 7/11/2006 8:32:55 AM |
Another woman insisted I buy her a steak dinner on the first date.
Dude...if you're that upset over having to buy your date a meal on the first date - maybe you're not ready to be dating ?!?
Whose to say that if you bought the meal, that she might've bought drinks after ? The arguement you got into over the steak (I'm betting there was one) in the first place was pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things - at least she was over the whole "can't eat in front of the guy until at least the 5th date."  | |
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| Dating is all about income
Posted: 7/11/2006 8:34:36 AM | msg 150 and 131...
both great posts and I agree
there is really nothing else to say about dating and income | |
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| Dating is all about income
Posted: 7/11/2006 8:47:12 AM | I carried my last boyfriend who was alway's out of work for one reason or another and it wasn't easy!
You miss the point Prudance, was it about his *income*, or about him not having a *job*? If he was otherwise perfect, you had a great relationship, and he had a steady job making $40K/year, would it matter to you all that much if he was making $80K, or is it just him being *steadily employed* that matters? I think the point of this thread was not "income" as in, they have a job, it was "income" as in - the people who post they won't date anyone who isn't making $100K+, or who given the choice between an abusive jerk who makes $100K or a good guy who treats them well who makes $40K, they'll take the abusive jerk, because the *amount* of income is important to them.
I mean, realistically, I do want a woman who has a job and can support herself. Now, I don't care if thats $30K and 'scraping by' or $130K, I would just like to see some financial responsibility. Then again I could meet "ms. wonderful" tomorrow and maybe toss that criteria by the wayside, who knows.
cutefactor - are there *really* women out there who "can't eat in front of the guy until at least the 5th date."???? yow. Sorry, thats just wierd, I don't think they'd ever get to the 5th date with me  | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 9:13:23 AM | Singleguy64
Didn't want to boar anyone as to why we broke up!..... but it was not due to either of the above! 'Twas the drink!'..........Our relationship was great......... when he was sober!.....i'll say no more! | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 9:58:20 AM | Money cant buy me LOVE ! Or Money can buy me love !
I guess its been my poor choice of women ,a posted Glamour photo of 10 years younger, and they gained 100-150 pounds. Course they fail to tell you this, until you actually meet! One of the best ways I've found,is tell the truth! Not all men are rich, some come out of divorces with just couple black bags! I'm well on my feet again and picky ! I simple state i live in a Trailer,, some reason they dont email back haha! No its not money,its about the house !Both, money and home, car also !
There are women, independent,responsible,that are hidding , as there are (good ) men. I prefir a independed lady myself,of my frame,she has her place,(home) i have mine. There's no rushing things,no extra baggage. I know you have to go thro the Weed out,process ! Mix lies in with the weeds and it just harder to find anyone,female or male!
Money does seem to be the major issue to most all others male or female, denial !
To the sick little oriental girl, i compaired threads, repeted your exact words !
I hope mature reponsible young males reading these posts,can understand your everyday choice of words. And you wonder why you were dumped,twice! Gee, i could of called you a slut,hoe, tramp, pervert ,i didnt! BUT , You admitted you were a Internet Email Stalker ,the man had to block you !  Your a Mixed up little girl ! | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 10:06:52 AM | | When I date someone who doesn’t have a lot of cash to spend I always tell them I am dating them and not their wallet! | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 10:27:15 AM | Sex with the lobster or you, LOL. jk
I have dated men with alot of money and men with not so much money and I have found the men who have alot of money dont need someone to have a relationship with they just want to have fun, sex and to keep playing with their guy friends. Now the men who dont have tons of money or are middlle class know how to treat a woman. This is so far from my experience Im sure there are some rich men who dont take woman for granted. It seems to me the rich men think their such a great catch because they have money and they think they dont need to try so hard. You men with money, you still need to impress us women who know that money does not buy happiness. You know who you are.
Vanilla, just a thought | |
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| Dating is all about income
Posted: 7/11/2006 10:46:43 AM | Vanillacream, good point.
Some men who don't have to work don't really grow up and don't want to settle down anyway. And I think they attract golddiggers from a mile away because they may not know how to attract anyone otherwise, it's what they are used to.
However some men who are born rich really do learn the work ethic and want to be known for more than their money.
I do believe the middle class or blue collar man might appreciate and treat women a little better. Just wanted to say I agree with you. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 10:51:40 AM | | prudance, Smart move. Even at my age I would not want to kiss or make love with a drunk. In fact I would not date someone that has a beer can or drink glass glued to thier hand. It does not matter what a person's income is, but they should have a job. You can't live on love. And if someone truely loves you it won't matter as long as the two of you can manage. On the woman insisting on a steak dinner, that is strickly wrong of her. Maybe the guy could only afford McDonalds. Who knows? Had the guy asked her where she wanted to dine that is a different story. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 10:55:41 AM | Ah crap...I knew something was amiss....it is the INCOME I should be looking at, not the BENEFITS. It was my misunderstanding that the health care/dental and rrsp plan was important not the net/gross income...Is there a formula for this I can look up???
so if I make 80k Canadian, with the current exchange rate at 1.15% I should be dating in a bracket of 220K Canadian and about 100K US (as the cost of living and booze to get me through the nights prostituting myself are so much cheaper in the US??)
Truly- there are good and bad men and women with their own agenda and motives. The key is to filter when "dating".
Lordy, I have so many other things I look at in a date that going through a financial statement is the least of my worries!
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Posted: 7/11/2006 11:01:24 AM | just the other day i saw a woman open a door herself! and not just any door...but one of those glass ones that even confuse some men.
^^^^Ohh..yeah I've seen that..men standing outside buildings with the doors that blend into the glass so it looks like there is only one big window..it's scary I know but if you ask someone for help they'll be happy to open it for you..I hate those ones that spin around and around. Thank god I live in a small town or I'd get dizzy.
It has nothing to do with income unless you're dating someone shallow. I've dated men who make very little and men who were millionares..if it was all about income I would have stayed with the ones with money. It's about who you are and how well we connect. My last date we walked all afternoon. Yes during the afternoon he bought me a coffee and a bottle of water but I didn't expect him to, he just beat me to the draw, but I thanked him. I'd rather do something that doesn't cost money..she wants a steak dinner she can wait until the two of you can BBQ it together..that would be more fun anyhow. Sorry about your luck. Sucks to be you. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 11:07:53 AM | I dissagree that it is all about income. If you can get to a woman on a biological level you've got her. Guys with lots of money who attract women only on their financial resources actually don't have successful sex lives because the women they get are just using them for their money, and they usually have boyfriends on the side who are poor. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 11:11:43 AM | "To the sick little oriental girl, i compaired threads, repeted your exact words !
I hope mature reponsible young males reading these posts,can understand your everyday choice of words. And you wonder why you were dumped,twice! Gee, i could of called you a slut,hoe, tramp, pervert ,i didnt! BUT , You admitted you were a Internet Email Stalker ,the man had to block you ! Your a Mixed up little girl !"
You stupid racist a$$hole! Oriental?????? What the hell, you stupid idiot horse riding redneck! So I am messed up ,huh? Fine I am messed up, so what the hell is your fu cking problem! Oh and those young respected males email me complimenting on my forum posts. I don't need old conservative stupid jerks like you to tell me what's wrong with me and what's not! You can't debate one good point and you start calling me messed up! Haha you are one of those frustrated old men that look ugly as a crock! Go and look at yourself in the mirror! You look like a circus freak with that 18th century moustache and ugly hair! I doubt your emails even get responded. Go and find your ugly granny!
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| Dating is all about income
Posted: 7/11/2006 11:17:54 AM |
I simple state i live in a Trailer,,
This is an issue???! In Gawd's name,WHY??!! Heck they can hook onto your house and move you to their state...
Oh yeah that's right, most women don't have big ass 4x4 trucks or an attitude like mine...
I don't care how much money a guy has or how he gets it( provided it's a LEGAL source) as long as he has some to take care of himself, much as I might like to, I can't afford to keep a guy as a housepet. But that's just me. I guess there are so many golddigging, fortune hunting women out there that my whole gender is suspect.
I can only go back to what I've said before. If you want to date, get your financial and practical act together FIRST.
This goes for women as well as men. Especially women! You have it from the OP( the horse's mouth) that women with kids are going to be seen as possibly seeking a provider. And gals, get you a nice car, and a nice house, otherwise men are going to suspect you of looking for a mechanic/handyman, not a loving relationship. And of course then you can only date men on approximately the same economic level as yourself to avoid the appearance of wanting more. Dating a guy with less economic resource might mean he's looking to get a better lifestyle on YOUR dime...
Does the above sound absolutely ridiculous?? OF COURSE IT IS...but it unfortunately seems to be a pretty common mindset on today's dating scene.
What's the answer? Heck if I know, I'm waiting for someone to tell ME!
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Posted: 7/11/2006 11:29:41 AM | The dating service sounds like the sort of place that invites women looking for men of status, often measured in dollars or title. If you choose that kind of pond, you're likely to find that kind of fish. What kind of bait you using anyway? If your bait is all about your $$, status or possessions, then you're likely to find the kind of fish that goes for $$, status or possessions.
If you want to find a site that is based upon your status in society, look at this site: http://wealthymen.com Here is a site that specializes in the use of income to get women! Talk about superficiality, I do not think it gets more superficial than this site. You get checked for having the income that you say you earn. No bull-shi++ing here! I just figured that I would included that site, considering it is basically what this thread is about!
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Posted: 7/11/2006 10:55:32 PM |
Let's be honest. Dating is all about income. CEO's don't date janitors. I went out with one woman who asked me "why don't you work overtime?" Another woman insisted I buy her a steak dinner on the first date.
I don't agree. But I think you are not that far off.
I think dating is still about two people being attracted to each other. Obviously having a big bank account can make one person more attractive to the other. Its a factor, but I don't think its everything.
Now commitment, commitment is all about income. No girl is going to hang around long if her husband can't keep food on the table. Not sure why so many people seem so angry at what you posted. No, I don't think your statement is completely accurate, its very generalized, but I don't think you are very far off the mark.
If I had a child who needed an expensive life saving operation right away and there was no other way to pay for it, sure, I'd marry a wealthy guy without hesitation. It doesn't happen often, but sometimes there are circumstances ( like family) more important than principle. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 11:00:59 PM | | Sheesh, you really got an invisible complex. EVERYONE KNOWS that income doesn't mean anything at all to us men but everything to women. I talked heart to heart with 1000s of women who I had successful dates this year with and they said, that they would never date someone with an income less than $75,000 a year. Now with that said, how about raising your income and buy me a steak dinner, this is valuable info. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2006 11:01:13 PM | OP
Apparently you have reason for making that statement. You've definetly been meeting the wrong women and you must have it happen repeatedly for you to make such a statement, but my God man...that, for me anyway, is so not true. Perhaps for some people in the world yes it is the rule by which they live, but you are categorizing and it's just not so.
How can people be so shallow as to see only $$$ signs. I can understand the need for financially stability, heck I carried my ex because he was a drug addict and a lazy bum, so yes, financial stability is somewhat important to me. BUT I don't let it rule out the possibility of "potential". | |
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Posted: 7/12/2006 9:18:07 AM | killerdogsmooch
I talked heart to heart with 1000s of women who I had successful dates this year
I guess I need to know your definition of "successful" date? Truly, I am not trying to give you grief or create controversy for controversy' sake! But I guess I'd be inclined to see "successful" as 1000s of dates with the same woman...
Wow, if 1000s of women will not date a guy who earns less than 75K, there must be a lot of perfectly nice, decent attractive men and and nice attractive albeit THOROUGHLY STUPID women out there,spending Saturday nights with a DVD and the cat! Where is it these ladies live?? I sure don't want to risk going there and catching that kind of stupid!
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Posted: 7/12/2006 9:23:01 AM |
I talked heart to heart with 1000s of women who I had successful dates this year with..
1000's of women in a year eh? Well, lets just say we be generous and make it a little over 1000, and round it up to 3-a-day, every day, for a year. I dunno as if I was going on 3 dates a day for a year, and still didn't have a GF, that I'd especially consider those "successful dates".
Or send them my way, 'cause I'd meet their income limit. | |
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Posted: 7/12/2006 9:25:41 AM | | To Brad..You got it Baby...Of course Men should Pay..But us girls should take it easy on how we Spend the mans $....I'll go to fast food..I'm interested in the Guy,Not material Crap... | |
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Posted: 7/12/2006 10:04:37 AM |
Of course men should pay
WHAT???
You can't be serious. Why should men pay? Oy, I will never understand that concept. I mean if you have been dating a while and the man offers to pay then cool, you at some point too should offer to pay. But first dates - nope, dont' agree, it should be 50 - 50. I have no idea why women expect men to dish out dollars for something that may or may not be... | |
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Posted: 7/12/2006 10:16:28 AM | | Wow when did dating get so complicated. Wasnt it always just see them across the room buy them a drink and take it from there. Never really thought about income level as a dating criteria. Let your parents pester you about how little or much the other person makes. Geesh! | |
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Posted: 7/12/2006 10:33:14 AM |
WHAT???
You can't be serious. Why should men pay? Oy, I will never understand that concept. I mean if you have been dating a while and the man offers to pay then cool, you at some point too should offer to pay. But first dates - nope, dont' agree, it should be 50 - 50. I have no idea why women expect men to dish out dollars for something that may or may not be...
Maybe it's just the way I was brought up or something, but I'm real uncomfortable with the idea of a woman paying for a first date. I have recently, (only very recently) accepted the idea that some women like to pay their own way or even pick up the tab altogether at times, but a first date, particularly one that the man has asked for, should be paid for by him.
Just part of the old fashioned values that should have never come under question or even been compromised as they've been over the last couple decades. | |
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