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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/8/2007 11:37:18 PM | | I think it would be good to have two wages. One wage which is lower like 7.oo an hour for kids going to school and pert time workers and a higher one for people who work full time and work the job as a career. | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/9/2007 12:36:53 AM | Minimum wage workers are grossly overpaid for what they do Wouldnt happen to own any sweat shops, would ya?  Grow some compassion, pal.
Yeah, everyone that's working class or poor is simply lazy and stupid. I trust that, should reincarnation be a fact, you will be reborn to a crack addicted mother in Compton. I'd love to see you show us all how well you'd do then. Now that were not standing nose to nose in debate, my friend, I see your obvious wisdom and you have all the "kudos" I have to give. 
Marko, minimum wage workers are grossly UNDER paid for what they do. People like you need to live a week in the shoes of a single parent struggling to get by on minimum wage  I say that you and I throw out all of our corrupt politians and run for Governess', what says you?  (or I can be your assistant, at least) ;)
I own a small painting business and although I pay my help roughly four times over the current minimum wage, if I were suddenly forced to pay them more it would hurt. I would have to raise my rates. With the mortgage problems going on nationwide these days, people can only pay so much to have their house painted. If they don't hire my company, I'd be forced to lay off the help.
Im not following you, doll. You say that you pay "4X more than M.Wage" but would be in deep $hit if our government raised the M.Wage? Uhh...care to enlighten me?
I run my azz off for twelve hours a day and seven days a week at times. WHY, WHY, WHY, should I have to pay more in taxes than some lazy slob who sits around watching the clock!!!! Assuming that those who earn M.Wage are "lazy slobs" is a tad arrogant and ill-informed. (Are you sure you own your biz?)
Most all employees who earn M.Wage are strictly monitored and have little freedom to " ride the clock"
I think it would be good to have two wages. One wage which is lower like 7.oo an hour for kids going to school and pert time workers and a higher one for people who work full time and work the job as a career.
Somebody give this kid a
Good on ya doll, for being so wise so young! | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/9/2007 5:01:44 AM | >>> I think it would be good to have two wages. One wage which is lower like 7.oo an hour for kids going to school and pert time workers and a higher one for people who work full time and work the job as a career.
I dunno 'bout the states, but in Canada we do have a minor(under 18) wage and an Adult wage- its about 50 cents difference
And doesn't that tactic ensure that less and less students can afford their education? Conversely, doesn't that ensure that more and more people will turn to welfare, since they make less for working less hours? Once again, throwing other peoples money at the situation is not a solution(and this is coming from someone who works for Minimum wage)
>>> Im not following you, doll. You say that you pay "4X more than M.Wage" but would be in deep $hit if our government raised the M.Wage? Uhh...care to enlighten me?
They're saying that if the Government stepped in and told this person they didn't pay their employees more they would be fined/closed/brought to trial, they would most likely be forced to close because they cannot afford to pay their employees more.
Ironically enough, they CAN pay their employees more, and DO pay their employees more, thus being a clear example that the companies can afford to pay their employees more, will without government threats- and thus the ones who cannot will be forced to fire people or go out of business. | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/10/2007 8:53:46 PM | Minimum wage workers are grossly overpaid for what they do
Sure because they get so much money. That comment is just ridiculous. How how CEO s being paid to much. Do they really need more money to buy another 50,000 car. | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/10/2007 9:13:25 PM | | We don't elect officials anymore, we try to associate ourselvs with the winners. Alot of voters are debating Hillary or Obama just because they don't see the others winning. Its as if we are gambling our opinion of their chances to win. On other races we don't vote, we guess like it's a test in highschool. We don't live in a democracy, we vote as we are told by the media. America is no longer what they describe in history class, thats over. | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/11/2007 1:40:41 AM | >>>Sure because they get so much money. That comment is just ridiculous. How how CEO s being paid to much. Do they really need more money to buy another 50,000 car.
You see, with comments like that, you've got to ponder some things;
First, how does raising minimum wage harm the rich? Seems to me like it harms the poor or unemployed moreso, and you've yet to explain how it doesn't.
Second, why do you have such interest in punishing people who are successful? Why do you find it so offensive that Donald Trump and others are rich while Millions of people are not? Does he not deserve his money? Doesn't everyone choose to invest their money into this man and his business freely(excluding, of course, Federally controlled investments, which ironically you're attempting to create more of) | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/11/2007 2:04:24 AM |
First, how does raising minimum wage harm the rich? Seems to me like it harms the poor or unemployed moreso, and you've yet to explain how it doesn't.
Second, why do you have such interest in punishing people who are successful? Why do you find it so offensive that Donald Trump and others are rich while Millions of people are not? Does he not deserve his money? Doesn't everyone choose to invest their money into this man and his business freely(excluding, of course, Federally controlled investments, which ironically you're attempting to create more of)
When people who work are not paid enough to live on, the rich are essentially being subsidized by the poor. The rich can only exist as a result of wealth inequity and the existance of the poor.
A minimum wage doesn't harm the poor, a minimum wage simply puts a limit on how much wealth is allowed to be extracted from the lower class in society. It's a statement that if a job is worth employing a person for, it should pay at least x amount. X doesn't have to be a particularily high wage, but it certainly has to be higher than it is now.
Considering your thinking has been the dominant one for the last 2 and a half decades, and in that time the rich have gotten richer, the poor poorer, and even worse, the chances of moving from poor to rich, or even middle class, has been on the decline. In the face of this how can you claim that the current course is the right one? | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 9/11/2007 8:10:49 AM | Second, why do you have such interest in punishing people who are successful? Why do you find it so offensive that Donald Trump and others are rich while Millions of people are not? Does he not deserve his money? Doesn't everyone choose to invest their money into this man and his business freely(excluding, of course, Federally controlled investments, which ironically you're attempting to create more of)
I honestly don't want to "punish" anyone. People who work hard certainly earn the right to enjoy the fruits of their labour, and to argue otherwise is folly.
A good example are the couple that owns two Tim Horton's in my neighborhood. Each is now worth probably over two million dollars. They work there, at the counter, seven days a week. They can do any job as well, or better than any other employee. They treat their people well, and are a part of the team with them.
They both have Mercedes's (low end ones), and dress quite normally. They are both very personable and friendly. They pay people rather well, especially the longer term workers, and respect them.
That type of business owner I hold in the highest regard. I've told both of them how much I respect the way they conduct themselves - many times.
That said, the growing gap between the rich and poor is a troubling sign of problems yet to come. That's not good for any of us. Poverty places a great strain on a society, and causes untold heartache. Those costs don't show up on balance sheets anywhere.
That increasing pressure , one that the aristocratic class are typically sheltered from with special gated communities and other benefits, leaves all the rest of us at their mercy.
If crime goes up, they do not feel it's pressure. Why should they act to lessen it ?
Meanwhile, the rest of society (including the middle / working class) has to take up their slack. Without enough political control, in a process where money is everything in regards to power, they are rendered mute.
Does one really need THREE mansions, a DOZEN Ferrari's , and custom made bottles of perfume by the crate to feel that they are a success ? It's becoming so out of hand, that it almost strikes me as echoing Marie Antoinette. How much is too much ? Is there ANY limit ?
Go back to the post war period, and your boss (or any high paid professional) lived not THAT much differently than a worker did. A better house, a better car, but still essentially a part of the society. Sure , there were a few aristocrats, but that was rather rare.
Today, it's exploded.
That older model worked rather well. The overall society was fairly balanced, and one could see that working harder would make some progress quite easy.
I remember being in Duarte, California in 1966. It's a suburb of L.A. At that time, it was a working class area. I was stunned, as a child of nine, to see working class people owning their own homes, and cars, and even having pools. That was common there, and NOT common (at that time ) in Quebec City.
American capitalism, at that time , ROCKED !
There's nothing wrong with that, if society doesn't wind up paying the price. I'm arguing that it has, and will continue to. | |
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| Senate refuses to raise minimum wage.
Posted: 3/13/2008 1:47:33 AM | A minimum wage doesn't harm the poor, a minimum wage simply puts a limit on how much wealth is allowed to be extracted from the lower class in society. It's a statement that if a job is worth employing a person for, it should pay at least x amount. X doesn't have to be a particularily high wage, but it certainly has to be higher than it is now.
When they can not afford to live on it the poor are hurt by it I agree with your last statement that people should be paid a certain amount not as much as some who has a degree but enough to live on. | |
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