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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/26/2006 7:56:53 PM | Bulldog ... I like the points you make but you skipped over the most important one. A dog is just a dog. No matter how loved or cared for that dog is still just a dog. I have 2 daughters and 2 large dogs. I've trained and socialized my dogs very well and have involved my girls in that training. But if my dogs ever bit any child for any reason I would put it down myself. I don't let the dogs around other children unless I'm there and I don't think there will be a problem. Its not up to society to learn how to treat strange dogs ... its up to dog owners to be aware that people probably won't know how to treat their dog and to understand that they are responsible.
And the last point I would like to make is people are defined by how they handle their mistakes. The lying and covering up shows weak character and no honour. They can't be trusted and its probably best that they don't talk to you anymore. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/26/2006 8:31:29 PM | I love dogs!! BUT I don't like Pitbulls! I have 2 little girls and I own a purebred, 150lb, female Rotti and she is awesome with kids! I don't think ANY dog should be trusted or left alone with children, they are not humans and can not tell you they are having a bad day! I agree with that dog being killed, if MY dog ever nipped ANYONE I would have her put down immediately! I think it's horrible that people chain up their dogs, if they can't run free in a yard then why have them?? My ex brought home a pitbull/black lab cross and I hated it from day one, something about that breed I really don't like! I am sorry that happend to your daughter and it's sad to hear about your friends..they were prob scared and imbarrased and sometimes people don't know how to react to a situation like that! I am sure they feel bad  | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/26/2006 10:32:32 PM | | Its never a good thing when someone is attacked by a dog, cat, or any animal. But that isn't a reason to exterminate a breed of any animal. I have a buddy that carries 5 rotweilers in the back of is truck everywhere he goes. I have seen more attacks by chihuahuas than any other breed of dog. People get injured and killed in automobiles everyday. Should cars and trucks be banned? Any animal can/will attack including humans. I don't mean to sound like an a**hole but I don't support the idea of destorying an entire breed. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/26/2006 10:51:00 PM | I think a few people have missed the point here, just a little bit. It is ABSOLUTELY up to society to learn how to behave around strange animals, just as it is absolutely up to parents to teach their children to look out for cars when crossing a street. The bottom line is to prevent a potentially dangerous situation from developing.
Do you say "Well, I'll just let my kids run out in the road, because it will be the car driver's fault if my child gets run over"? I sincerely hope you don't. The same logic applies. If you run out in front of a car, you can get run over. If you walk straight up to a strange dog, especially in his own home, you can get bitten. A little common sense applies.
As far as having the dog put down, if it is your dog, you are totally within your rights to do so. If it is not your dog, however, the situation is a little different.
Are you going to say that if my dog bites your kid, I should automatically have my dog killed?
Let's turn that around. I catch your kid shooting at my dog. Do I have the right to insist your kid be put down? No? How about locked up till he's about 40 yrs old? Are you as a parent not just as responsible for your child's actions as I as a dog owner am responsible for my dog's actions?
Lastly, while I don't condone lying, in the current political climate, it is totally understandable. Spend a morning in provincial offences court, it will open your eyes. This is where dog bite cases in Ontario are tried. Just one day there will give you quite an education about how justice is dispensed in our time. In actual fact, there is little or no justice to be had. The entire agenda is driven by only two things: politics and revenue.
Far too many people seem to thnk any kind of misfortune, a dog bite, car accident, or what have you, is like winning the lottery. A minor injury, a few stitches, a big lawsuit, and wow!
Instant millionaire! Almost worth provoking the neighbour's dog to bite you, you'll never have to work again. Never mind that you ruin someone else's life in the process, trying to profit from your own laziness or stupidity.
When I was a kid, we played baseball in the back yard. We all knew that any ball hit over the back fence was an automatic out. There was a doberman who lived in that yard, and he didn't like kids jumping the fence to get a ball back. Everyone knew, if you went over the fence when the dog was out, you were going to be bitten. We were all kids, six or seven years old, but still knew the chance we were taking, so we waited until the dog was in the house before anyone even thought of climbing that fence. The only gate was padlocked shut, it did no good to ask the tenant for permission, she didn't have a key for the gate.
No one would have ever thought to start complaining, or trying to get dobermans banned. We all knew the score, and so did our parents. If you went in the dog's yard, and the dog was out, you were going to get it, and it was your own fault for not making sure the dog was in the house. Most of us learned the hard way, too, but we sucked it up, bandaged our wounds, and did what we had to do.
Things seem to have changed in only thirty years. No one wants to take responsibility for their actions anymore, instead, they want Big Brother government to protect them from themselves. Before anyone starts telling others to take responsibility, take some yourself.
By the way, any doctor will tell you one of the worst bites you can get is from another person. Guaranteed infection, every time. Ever seen or heard of one child biting another?
They probably wouldn't ban them, but you can bet your last pair of dirty shorts that with enough media coverage of a few incidents of one kid biting another, there are plenty of politicians out there who would cheerfully vote to keep kids in cages if they thought for just one second it would help get them re-elected. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/26/2006 11:52:52 PM | I don't agree on all your arguments!! For one do we chain our kids to a poll? We know to sh!t in a toliet, to wipe our own a$$es, our daily budgets, punishment for our actions!! Do dogs have that common knowledge? Yeah some people are twisted and bad things happen to kids/adults but for the majority of the healthy population??
If your dog bit my kid or anybody that dog should be put down!! Same as if someone shoots someone they should be locked up because they are a danger to society! If an owner has mistreated an animal and messed them up NO it isn't the dogs fault but the dog should still be put down..it's like a loaded gun being waved around, like a drunk driver....punishment for your actions! People that are mentally ill should be takin care of to ensure others safety including their own! The goverments all suck and the criminal system is stupid, I dissagree on many things!
Yes kids and adults should be educated when it comes to animals, but is it that 3 year olds fault that she was brutally atacked?? Is it the parents fault for trusting their friends judgment to have that dog around kids? It was a missfortunate accident and poor judgment on the friends part and on the parents of the child to be trusting an animal of any kind with their childs life, unfortunately that dog has to suffer for it's instinct to bite just like if I stabbed you in the gut! Last time I checked they didn't have a jail for dogs unless you want to have a bunch of biting dogs locked up in the pound for the remainder of their life!!? Which I could agree to also if that was an option... | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 1:27:55 AM | I never said it was the child's fault she was bitten, nor did I mean to give that impression. A three yr old cannot be expected to know everything, at that age, they're still learning their way around in the world. Based on the information available, it would be very difficult to assign blame, and I wouldn't like to try.
That said, I do see a couple of glaring lapses in judgement, not from a child who didn't know any better, but from adults who should have.
First, the dog's owners. If the dog was not used to small children, or did not, for whatever reason, like that child, the dog should have been put out in the yard, or otherwise removed from the situation.
Second, the child's mother. A 3 yr old cannot be expected to know, or to remember, the correct way to approach an animal. A 37 yr old can and should be. If she knew the owners for that long, she knew the dog was there, but chose to expose her child to a potentially dangerous situation IN THE DOG'S HOME. This may seem hard hearted, but it IS the truth.
Had the child and the dog ever met before? It may have been a case of incompatible strangers, there may have been a bit of history there. There is not enough information to say.
In my own home, I follow a simple rule: I do not introduce my dog to new people without being there. Right there, close enough and ready to grab his collar if need be. My dogs are completely socialized from birth, and it has NEVER been necessary, but it is a basic safety precaution. Also, you only get one chance to make a first impression with a dog, and they almost never change their minds about someone. So, if the first time you meet my dogs they don't like you, I don't care who you are, I will remain your friend, will visit you, will meet you anywhere, but you will never be invited to my home again. Don't be insulted, it's called not taking stupid chances. The dogs live there, they are not going anywhere, they don't like you. It's no different than someone with a cat allergy. If you're allergic to cats, don't go to a place where you know they have cats.
Incidentally, there is no need to dramatize. A bite on the nose and a few stitches, while never a good thing and certainly traumatic for the child, is not exactly a brutal attack. Any large, healthy adult dog is more than capable of killing a 3 yr old child. A bite like that is usually a warning to leave and never return, not an all-out attack. One more thought...if your child was hit by a car, through your inattention in not keeping a small child out of the road, would you then want to scrap the car involved? Or ban cars? | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 4:38:53 AM | | I am very sorry for the attack on your daughter. As an individual who is studying law enforcement and crimimal justice I know the way pits can be. It is sad to think that your friends were the ones who owned the dogs. On a more positive note my boyfriend is a pitbull breeder and he has never had a problem with his not to say it won't happen but so far it has not. In our town you are required to register all animals and pay a tax to own them and it is more expensive on a dangerous breed. I think the insurance idea is great I'll talk to him and see what he thinks. I know that it is hard to view the animals as anything but bad, but don't knock the whole breed. It is the same with people some are bad but not all of them. It has also been my experience that the pits that attack come from certain blood lines that are bred to attack. The sad truth is they are trained to attack other creatures on their eye level that look them in the eyes, that has been the the main reason more children are attacked then adults. I know most people would agree with a ban but it is an americans right, just like owning a gun. This comes from a law enforcement view point. I hope things work out | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 6:55:22 AM |
Incidentally, there is no need to dramatize. A bite on the nose and a few stitches, while never a good thing and certainly traumatic for the child, is not exactly a brutal attack. Any large, healthy adult dog is more than capable of killing a 3 yr old child. A bite like that is usually a warning to leave and never return, not an all-out attack. One more thought...if your child was hit by a car, through your inattention in not keeping a small child out of the road, would you then want to scrap the car involved? Or ban cars?
No need to dramatize? The situation described above is more aptly compared to a gun misfiring and just causing a flesh wound. Comparing an inanimate object to a dog is ridiculous. Cars don't have instincts they are completely controlled. I can let my kids play in a parking lot no matter how many big cars are there and I don't even need to chain the cars up. But there is no way in H$ll I'm doing the same thing with a bunch of rottis and pit bulls. Dogs have control over themselves. I understand that they are victims in the attacks as well but just because a dog doesn't know how to act in OUR society doesn't mean we say "oh well". We take action for the safety of ourselves and our children because OUR society isn't going to change to cater to dogs. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 8:23:15 AM | WELL PUT, a point I was trying to make!
A bite on the nose causing stitches may seem like a "warning bite" to you, but to that little girl I am sure is something she will never forget!! I was bit on the lip once by a pitbull at the age of 3 maybe 4, I was knocked out on the sidewalk for who knows how long! That isn't the reason I don't like the breed, a lot of them are Backyard breeds and Inbreeds! The ones that aren't I am sure are great pets, with disipline!! I own a Rotti, she's been with us for 4 years now and I know my dog! When my youngest daughter was born we brought home the blanket she was cleaned off with and introduced it to my dog! I was told about having to dominate your dog, so everyone in our family (Me and my 2 daughters) practiced holding my rotti down to the ground and not allowing her up until she stopped moving! Of course I had to help my girls with that, but I see the outcome..both my girls are able to control our dog.. with supervision! Most dogs don't listen to kids!! If you are going to own a "bully" breed you need to be educated and know the characteristics of that dog! Rotties should NEVER be chained up, they are loving "family oriented pets" they like to be a part of the family! They feel like a cast away if not treated as a memeber of your home and invited to be in your house and therefor that dog could resent you, or the kids and could become dangerous. Even when I take my dog for a walk...if a person is walking close by us I have my dogs leash wrapped completely around so her head is against my leg. Also animals don't like to be hit, when I had to disipline my dog I would grab her cheeks and lift so we were making eye contact and I would give her sh$t!
Best advice is be careful around animals, even if you know them or not! My dog would prob bite someone that broke into our house, that person wasn't invited in and it wouldn't be the dogs fault but if I had company and I chose to have my dog with us it is my responsability if she bit and my actions would be to put her down! | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 9:31:25 AM | “First, dogs are territorial… It's in their genetic makeup, and cannot be trained out of them.”
But they can be trained to behave when strangers come around. Mine is.
“For a dog, strangers, adult or child, are a potential threat.”
This blanket statement is also not valid. My dog becomes even more gentle when a child is around, and has never reacted to one as though it were a threat of any kind.
“small children are actually more likely to be bitten than adults.”
My dog has also proven this to be untrue.
“For a dog, staring directly at it makes him think you want to fight.”
Not if you take the time to stare him down from day one, and he learns otherwise. Just another example of what you need to know about dogs before you own one.
“To a dog, they see bared teeth, which to them means "Let's go, ***hole!"
Too funny. Anyone laughs out loud around here, much less smile, and the dog knows they are in a good mood and comes to have his chest rubbed.
“Do not approach someone else's dog, let it come to you.”
This I fully agree with. While I may have taken the time to train mine properly, not many really do.
“I don't think ANY dog should be trusted or left alone with children,”
If I leave the house, and the kid at home, I definitely leave the dog with her for protection. Of course she is not 2.
“they are not humans and can not tell you they are having a bad day!”
LOL Mine sure can. LOL
“I have seen more attacks by chihuahuas than any other breed of dog.”
Very true. I just don’t understand why the owners of these puny dogs think it is cute and funny when they nip people all the time, instead of realizing that best case scenario is the rotten thing getting a serious flying lesson when I kick it across the room when it nips my ankle. Now THAT was funny to me.
“It is ABSOLUTELY up to society to learn how to behave around strange animals,”
I just think that it is a bit much to expect. That is why it is up to the owners to make sure that their dog doesn’t come into contact with strangers (fenced yard, leave it at home instead of taking it with you shopping, muzzle if necessary…) If you are going to take the responsibility of being an owner, that is a part of it.
“Before anyone starts telling others to take responsibility, take some yourself.”
“would cheerfully vote to keep kids in cages”
Truth is, a lot of kids out there these days deserve to be in cages a heck of a lot more than pittbulls.
“If your dog bit my kid or anybody that dog should be put down!!”
Unless your kid climbed my fence and was bitten in my backyard. Then it is YOUR fault for not supervising your child.
As an example of how twisted this argument can get, there was a post regarding a gun or car being inanimate objects that were completely controlled, so getting shot or hit by a car isn’t the same thing as being bitten by a dog. The gun and the car are controlled by people, just like the dog should be. All three boil down to “operator error”. Same rule applies to all 3, if you don’t know how to control it properly, you shouldn’t have it, but it is not the fault of the dog/car/gun. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 10:05:32 AM | | What makes you sure the blanket statement is not valid!!?? Our dog was introduced to a NEW member in our family with scent and any licensed dog trainer or professional would agree with that! Everyone has their own opinions and it's a never ending argument, not everyone is going to see eye to eye!! Staring my dog in the eye when being punished (as a puppy... she's a well behaved adult now) has NEVER made her feel the need to fight or bare teeth! She is COMPLETELY controled by me and has a respect for every memeber of our family! She is a very well raised dog and has manners and respect! | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 10:48:34 AM | "What makes you sure the blanket statement is not valid!!??"
I believe I already answered that, as my dog is proof that it is NOT valid, and I doubt I am the only one who can say it.
"She is a very well raised dog and has manners and respect!"
As is my pitt. But it seems to me that you are making discriminatory invalid statements based on breed alone, as opposed to the competence of the trainer, and training methods. Dogs are like children, they learn what they live. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 12:05:33 PM | I think that everyone has good points in this discussion.
Now its my turn to be the bad guy... I was a part of the ban for Pitbulls in the city I live in. I support it 110% becuase this is a real issue and I have first hand experience dodging two attacks by pittbulls. I am in no way biased towards the breed. Pitt Bulls were bred to be territorial and protective, its bred into the bone and spirit of the dog. I however supported the ban becuase of neglectful, abusive and otherwise irresponsible OWNERS. A dog is as good as his owner, just as a child is as good as the parent who raised him! I have known and enjoyed the company of pittbulls, mastiffs and other large breeds that have bounced over the headlines for attacks, fine animals raised in loving homes with responsible owners.
I have known pittbull and pittbull crosses bred for fighting , kept as symbols of money and stature. The same animals paraded around on studded collars and leashes are tied to fences in 90+ degree heat without proper shelter, left in backyards HEAPED with thier own waste and otherwise abandoned when they become too much to handle or are simple unwanted.
The dog isn't 100% of the problem at all-
Any breed can kill. I recall a story in the news several years ago when a newborn was attacked and killed by a toy breed when left unattended.
As a parent though, I would not reccomend pitbulls for families with small children, nor any large breed. Domesticated or no, anything smalled then your self is prey in the walk of nature.
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 12:16:50 PM | How many children do you have living in your home with your dog?? and what ages are they?
I NEVER said a pit couldn't be well mannered WHEN PROPERLY RAISED!! I am not discriminating against any breed, I "know of" a lot of people that improperly breed them, a lot that are used to guard grow houses, I agree with the ladies statements!! That is any breed but the one we are talking about in "this case" is a pitbull! AND invalid statements?? I only repeat what I have seen with my own eyes and through my own experiences NOTHING INVALID ABOUT THAT!! | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 1:41:29 PM |
deb0329 on 6/22/2006 7  58 PM Subject: What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Message: Ferymay said: ( I currently have a pup JRT which I am thinking I might be finding a new home for. He is a sweet puppy but his teeth are bothering him and his instinct to bite anything to help it is very strong. ) Ferymay, I am alittle confused by what you said about your "current" pup JRT???? His teeth are bothering him? Why are they bothering him, other than he is a puppy who might be losing his baby teeth and getting adult? Is that reason to get rid of him?????? confused!!!!!
Ya because if he is just teething, it will not take very long, both mine went through it. The worst I ever had with my pittie mix was her grabbing onto my pantleg at the bottom and letting us drag her down the hall. Once the teeth are out...no problem. The worst we ever had with the dobe was him getting the side of the sofa...but he was sinking his teeth into the wood and leaving them there. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 2:26:01 PM | Yes philosphy a dog is just a dog and that is where the training comes in. By treating it like a dog. My sons dobe, as playful and carefree as he is with US I knwo better then to let strangers approach him in our home, it is his home not theres. There is an introduction first and foremost so there is not an inncedent, and then he goes to his crate for some down time with a toy. Maxi is the best dog for my son, that darn dog can tell me when he is having an asthma attack and when my son is going to have a siezure. On top of when my son does have one and my son is walking maxi gets between my son and whatever he is going ot fall into if I can't get there first. Because of his actions if I could that dog would have his own room and eat steak every night, but because he is a worker breed and with what I learned with my pittie/mastiff mix you can't treat them like they are top dog or you get in trouble. SO he has it good in a dogs view, but smart people should know to never approach another dog and all my neighbors no to NOT appraoch my animals without asking me first. Not for there own safety from the dogs mind you cuz momma wont like it-momma being me. My dogs are service animals for myself and my son so they are busy and in my mind they should be left alone. SO my neighbors and there kids have enough respect for that fact to ask before approaching them when we are out and about. Most did not when I moved in and I had to be a bitxh about it, so my dogs are liked but I am not. But that is ok with me. 
I have much "dog" smarter neighbors so that is alright with me. I wish that all owners were repsonsible with there animals, because as much as peple want to say that pitties should be banned...I'm sorry but:
TRAINING FOR YOU
TRAINING FOR YOU
TRAINING FOR YOU BOTH! | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 4:01:35 PM | I'm coming in at the end of this thread so if I say something that's already been said then...oh well.
People need to understand what exactly a dog is, why they react the way they do and their thought proceses. A dog is a pack animal, it NEEDS to know where in the pack it fits in (their pack is the human family) I've seen many occasions where a dog acts badly but it's only because it sees itself as the alpha dog, the humans should be the alphas and the dog at the bottom of the pack....this doesn't mean that you should use force or violence with a dog, they are way smarter than that. What it takes is patience and understanding...something that dogs have in abundence, but we so called "smart" humans sometimes have little of. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 6:50:47 PM | I have to say I totally agree with the last post. A dog needs to know where he stands, they ARE a pack animal. As far as being able to look a dog straight in the eyes, with your dog, sure, he knows you, he knows who is in charge. It establishes dominance, and he accepts that you're in charge. Everything is normal. Here's the catch: HE'S YOUR DOG, AND KNOWS YOU. I seriously do not recommend doing that with a strange dog you meet in the park, I can almost guarantee you a very different outcome.
The secret with ANY dog, pit, shepherd, rotti, St. Bernard or even a pomeranian is training, socialization and owner responsibility. They are trainable. Ever wonder why it's not legal to keep tigers as pets?
How many people have cats? Ever seen a mean one, one that hisses and bites? The only reason cats don't attack people is that we're so much bigger than they are, they know they're not going to win the fight.
Breeding in dogs can tell you what a dog MIGHT do, what he's capable of doing. From there, it's like raising kids. They become what they're trained to be, just the same way bad parents can raise their kids to become drug-addicted gang-bangers.
Responsible ownership is the key, not breed bans, just as responsible parenting is the key to raising good kids. Judging by the news, and what I see in my own city every day, both are getting extremely rare. Maybe we should ban kids, too? | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 10:17:56 PM | | Most definately dogs are PACK animals.. they have a line of authority.. Alpha male.. Alpha female.. and subordinates.. sisters, so on so forth.. ANYONE that owns a dog of ANY breed should at least understand this aspect of the animal. I"ve raised Rottweilers. Yellow Labs, and****rspaniels...Trained them for Obedience and Hunting.. And as much as each breed has their own personal qualities that make them unique in personality, temperment and appearance. It all boils down to PACK mentality. Understand that and you'll understand alot about your chihuahua/pitbull/poodle.. whatever. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/27/2006 10:30:55 PM | | No kidding^^^ my dogs no that they are both at the bottom of the totum pole in our pack and that is just where they are supposed to be. ANy other way and I'd be in trouble. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/28/2006 2:58:31 PM | I don't agree on all your arguments!! It helps to understand the arguments to agree with them.
Basically the points I believe he was trying to make were:
1) People engage in frivolous lawsuits and this is why the owners of the dog changed the story. He didn't say it was an ethical or unethical thing for them to do. He was not condoning it. He was simply pointing out that was probably the motive.
2) The dog attacked the child because the child was at its eye level, was a stranger, and was invading the territory of the animal. Again, no condoning here. He was just telling you what was going on.
3) Both parties were irresponsible to an extent. The greatest irresponsiblity was the dog owners for allowing the situation to happen. The parents were also irresponsible, to a lesser degree, for putting their child in jeopardy. His analogy concerning letting children play in the street just because "it would be the car driver's fault" for hitting them was a good one. The least responsible was the dog, because it was a dumb animal behaving exactly how a large, aggressive pack animal would be expected to behave in that context.
4) The dog was not vicious, mean, or evil. The breed should not be banned. The only people to gain anything from the banning of dog breeds are politicians, because it makes it look like they accomplished something and helps them get re-elected. The dog's behavior made perfect sense if you understand the behavior social pack animals. The fact that the child is even alive is an indication that the animal intended a warning never to come back and was not "out for blood". Had it been a pomeranian it would still be alive.
5) You don't need to have an animal destroyed for a bite that results in a minimal injury, particularly if the context is such that a person was in its territory. (He was not saying that the particular injury in question was minimal, however). The position that an animal should be destroyed for any bite shows a disrespect for life and a contempt for it as well. Would you have a dog put down if it bit someone who broke into a house to steal your TV? Personally, I was bit by a doberman once and I did not request to have the animal put down (though I did incapacitate the animal after it attacked me and it was afraid of me subsequently). | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/28/2006 3:36:48 PM | ^^^And I'd like to add, I am not sure if it has been stated or not yet. If that child was in any way fearful of that dog, that dog is going to pick up on it. If you are afraid of a dog they are more inclined to notice it. That and if your child has a health issue of anykind, dogs pick up on that. Some of them anyways and they do not always react like good trained service animals do...
But too, I concure with the rest, not to minimize the damage done to the child but it most likely was a warning because the child/parents/owners missed teh body language of the dog when the dog gave the first warning. And if there was noise then the growl might not have been heard, which is warning number two when you do not pay attention to body language of a dog, step three is to bite. That is doggie world, plain and simple.
I am sorry you had to go through this, I hope for you and your kids's sake that you can move past the hatred and bitterness and listen to what has been posted here about dogs and there behavior by the above poster and others. In a dogs world it is different, because they are not human and even if you never get a dog, raise your children to be dog smart and it will make it where incidents can be avoided in the future. And it is not by banning a breed or avoiding dogs period. If that were the case then we'd have to ban them all. Because if this had been a little tiny dog, nothing would have happened to it and that is just wrong because a dog is a dog, no matter the size. Even little dogs should be well behaved and there size and the fact taht they cannot do the damage in one bite that a bigger dog can does not excuse the behavior. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs?
Posted: 6/28/2006 6:09:20 PM | Oh, I also have to say that I know my American Bulldog and a Pitt aren't the same. EVERYONE tells me she's a pitt, but she weighs like 100 lbs more than any pitt I've ever met... so I get real defensive of that point... LOL.
I have raised Pitts and they were awesome. We had one, "6-Pack" (long story) that would let a three year old little girl walk her with her finger in her collar and not pull or chase a cat or anything, she was just an amazing dog. Her dad, King, would bark up a storm if a cop pulled someone over near the house and the person in the car got fly with the cop because we made sure to introduce him to cops in uniform so he would know that they were good... cops loved to pull people over by our house... LOL
Dogs have teeth. Dogs CAN BITE.... regardless of breed. And seriously, if that dog wanted to hurt that three year old, it would have been a LOT more than a few stitches. I know that it's bad, but it's true.
My Molly (AB) weighs about 50lbs more than I do. She doesn't pull me, she doesn't jump on me, she knows her place. If we go for a walk and other dogs are barking at her she looks at me like she's asking what I want her to do and when I tell her she's okay, she keeps about her business. When people come to my house she's either locked up in the other room, outside or on a leash sitting by my side until both she and our company are comfortable, or the company leaves. If you come in my yard and Molly doesn't know you, you can bet your sweet butt that she's going to be tasting it. If you are IN MY HOUSE and she is OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE, she will JUMP THROUGH THE WINDOW to get a taste of your butt. I don't need a gun, I got a dog.  | |
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