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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 6/28/2006 10:43:48 PM | | i love animals, but laws need to protect innocent children and adults. not protect the dog and the owners after the dog has attacked. friendly dogs attack strangers. and the law doesn't make anyone accountable. leash laws aren't enforced. and no one keeps track of the dogs who have attacked or the owners who have previously had dogs that have attacked. you can't tell these people that they shouldn't do anything or vent their anger after their child has been killed or lost limbs. do your research. if my dog bites someone on my property, my home owners insur will pay. if i don't keep my dog on a leash and it goes into the neighborhood, which is breaking the leash law. then the law will protect me and say the first bite is for free, i can't be held responsible. and they never keep track. i can have a different dog do it next yr. or move and have the dog attack someone there. so what if their are children playing in their own yards. the law will protect me. that is the facts. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/1/2006 3:56:58 PM | ^^^^^ The law must be very different in Tennessee than it is in Ontario. Where I live, if your dog bites someone off your property, or in some cases, even just startles someone, the law will land on you like a ton of bricks. If you have one of the so called "dangerous" breeds, you will get it even if someone breaks into your house. No way this city will pass up a chance to bury someone in fines. This is how a city police officer explained it to me. I doubt this is actual law, but this is apparently how the law is commonly applied : If you break into my house and my dogs bite you, I could get in trouble. If you break into my house and I shoot you, I WILL get in trouble. If you break into my house and I beat you to death with a tire iron, I get off scot-free. Just a little taste of how politics corrupts law enforcement. I"m pretty sure, though, that we were talking about a kid who was bitten on the nose when she was inside the dog's home. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/1/2006 4:24:36 PM | hawaiihill, in wa state dogs have been put down becasue they were defending there property and homes from burgelers.
Research? Have you not been paying attention? It is not my fault if an irresponsible parent lets there child wonder into my home unattended, they should teach there child to not go in anothers home and to not approach a strange dog. But be damn sure the my heidi and maxi are going to show that child the door. Dogs fault if the child does not grasp by my doggies body language what it means to "leave my space" no...they are talking to this child. But it is not the childs fault either. The responsibility lies with the parents and owners, I have educated my neighbors so this is not something that would happen here. It is to maybe give you another example?! Laws...would not help stupidity.
Fact being with the OP's situation, whether they want to believe it or not; the dog owners never should have had the dog loose or they should hvae done an introduction and the parents of the child should never have left the child unattended with that dog. It is not the dogs fault, they are dogs not humans. It is the humans responsibility to take care of the child and the dog and both parties were lacking in this case. Especially the owners of the dog. In a dogs world it is different, they speak dog language not human language. And it is up to the owner to learn this dog language and if a person is going into a home of an animal then they had better have an understanding of dogs or not go. Or ask that the dog be put in another room or outside. It is called being smart and responsible not blaming someone else. Yes the child was innocent and for all intense and purposes that child got off easy. If that dog was out to really do some harm to that child would have been in pieces, and I mean literally, or would be dead. Use some smarts... | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/1/2006 9:01:55 PM | | I have a Rotty....he's a big baby!! People can walk into my house without knocking and all he wants to do is lick them to death! ~lol~ Someone stopped at my house for directions once and he was outside. The man..never saw him before..got out of his vehicle and the dog didn't make a sound..just tried to give the guy kisses! I was inside and had no clue anyone was even here till my doorbell rang! Is it really the breed of dog or how they are treated????? | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/1/2006 10:06:39 PM | | Every dog is different...Mine bark at strangers who come to the door, but if I let them in, the dogs want to meet them, and there's never a problem. The deciding factor is, if I let that person in. Where I used to live, my landlord, who the dogs knew well, opened the door and came on once, while I was outside, out of sight. They didn't bite him, but he NEVER did that again. They sure made an impression. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/1/2006 11:38:23 PM | | I didnt realize that I would get such a response to my thread. Thanks to all who replied but I think I need to make a few things clear to a couple of people on here (you know who you are). How am I responsible for their dog attacking my child????? My child was NOT left unattended around this dog, I was maybe two feet away from her when it happened and my daughter did nothing to provoke the attack as she was sitting on the floor doing nothing and the dog walked up to her so that just shows that the dog did approach her first AND the dog and my child had been around each other several times before with no problems so that just goes to show that she wasnt a stranger. Yes I do feel responsible since she is my daughter but I didnt actually do anything wrong going for a visit when we had been there several times before around the dog and I didnt leave her unattended around the dog (there was actually three adults in the room at the time it happened). I was told my daughter was lucky because these dogs actually go for the throat but my daughter does have a scar on her chest right under her neck where the dog had tried and the dog ran off when I jumped up and started screaming. I hope to God you dont ever have to see your child with stitches on their face and have scars the rest of their lives but I guess it wont be any big deal to you (you know who I am talking to)but it is a big deal to me as I love my child and it hurts me to know she had to go through this no matter how minimal you think it is. Oh and also I didnt order the dog to be put down, I was at the hospital with my daughter when animal control took the dog and because my friends said it was a stray the animal control put it down to make sure it didnt have rabies but I guess to some of you animal lovers it would have been better to let the dog live and my daughter to have went through the painful rabies shots, huh? | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 12:45:29 AM | How am I responsible for their dog attacking my child????? No one said you were entirely responsible and you know that. It was stated that there was a lack of judgment in having large aggressive breed of dog around a small child that did not live in the home of the dog.
Let me make this clear to you. I do feel empathy for your child's traumatic experience. I do feel that the owners of the dog bare the greatest responsibility in this situation and not you. However, you made a decision to have your child in this situation to begin with. It was very unrealistic, almost magical thinking, to believe that the animal would not attack in this situation. You anthropomorphically projected human value judgement onto a dumb animal. The fact that the child did nothing that a rational person would construe as "provoking it" has no bearing on reality.
The dog saw your child as another animal invading its territory who was staring at it at eye level in what the dog interpreted as a threatening gesture. And you know why the dog thought this? Because its a dumb animal; it can't reason. It doesn't matter that you had visited a few times; the child was still a stranger. You see, dogs do not have sophisticated minds or very good memory retention. This why they don't talk, read books, and have tea parties. Dogs are not people. They do not have ethics, nor do the make "decisions". Dogs act on instinct alone.
I love my child and it hurts me to know she had to go through this no matter how minimal you think it is. No one said it was minimal. They just said it could have been fatal if the dog had intended the attack to be. No one thinks your child had an easy time of it. The fact that someone states that an accident was not fatal does not equal that person stating that the accident was "minimal". And let's face it, the dog got the worst part of this deal (its dead).
You say you hold yourself responsible and yet you categorically deny any fault. You must realize that in hindsight this situation was a bad idea. Each time you had those children in that house you were pushing your luck. And we all know what happens when you consistantly push your luck. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 11:11:25 AM | OP we were not trying to blame you perse for it all....I'm sorry but to me as a parent; my son is not left unattended around another animal that is bigger then him. Even if he knows him, because i know all dog owners are not the repsonsible owners I am. My mothers dog is not allowed to be let unattended by herself with my son and she is a just a little ankelbitter. But the point being she is the alpha in there home and they have no intention of changing that, not even to have my son there on a regular basis so that is there choice. If I left him there and she bit him that would be my fault because I was irresponsible enough to do it when I knew better to begin with. We are not trying to say what you and your child has gone through is not a horrible thing, as a parent of a child whom has had medical issues I do understand in a way (mine stops breathing from asthma....goes blue). But what you are not seeing, (and this is why I posted in one of my posts they way that I did) is that with a dog, if that dog was a "bad" dog and was out to kill your child your child would be dead. Yes it is horrible what happened and I hope that you can learn from it. I think it is sad what the owners did, I honestly do nto blame them, they were trying to save there dog. My mother would do the same with hers. Do I think what they did is right? No, becasue the dog should have been locked up or outside. If it were me and my dogs? I make sure my dogs are having down time in there crates when I have visitors. Because if I have a person that is over that is not doggy savvy...what is going to happen? My dog is going to pay for there not paying attention or if they do not listen to me when I tell them to do something in reference to my dogs. IT is called being a smart owner. My dogs life is not worth someone who will not pay attention or thinks it is "just idiotic" to do things this way-I have two friends that are no longer allowed around heidi because they will not obey my wishes with her.
With a dog there are so many vaiables that could have happened that brought this out and unless your were down there on the floor with your child and that dog we will never know. One poster said something about never looking a dog in the eyes...with most dogs this is very true, it is a "lets get it on" type of signal to them. My dogs, you can look them in the eye no prob, but that is because I trained them that way. Another thing with a dog, and this I eluded to in my other post, is the first warning a dog will give you...you will have to forgive me Iwill explain the best I can, is a posture. It is a rigid stance, not so rigid as when the dogs hackles are raised but similar, that in doggie language is "get the hell outta my space" and it is up to that person to move not the dog. If the dog did this to your child (and of course your child not knowing this did not move probably reached otu and pet the animal? do not remember all of it sorry) then the child got bit. If the dog did this then the dog was not trianed to know that humans are more important then him, and therein lies the fault with the owners. BUt too, with dogs, especially big dogs you have to be vigilante because nto all owners are SMART owners...therein your child should ahve not been on the floor with the dog. I guess that is all I was trying to say....I am deeply sorry for what happened. I know if it were me I would be upset myself but it would be the owners I would be "banning" not the dog...it is not his fault. I would have the owners in court so fast it would make there head spin, but that is because I have a dobe and mastiff/pitt mix....I KNOW dogs...I know how to train dogs and avoid things like this in my home and with my animals. They are as much my babies as my son is, so I take that as a high priority to make sure that they are not going to hurt anybody. Aside from the fact taht I have a two year old, so they ahve to be trained to be safe around him for me to keep them.
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 7:31:43 PM | | well i dont think they should be banned...pit bulls or any breed of dog.....the dog's personality is what the owner has made it i believe any dog is capable of attacking a child......i do not own a dog nor would i allow my children near a dog i was iffy about that is my job as a parent. i am very sorry that that happend to your child and that is the truth....but that is how i see things on dogs. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 8:48:40 PM | | I just want to say that if the dog had shown any behaviours that would have been a problem then I wouldnt have taken my daughters there. Some people seem to think that evidently if you have kids then you are supposed to never go visit your friends who have dogs???? This dog had never shown any problems before this and when the dog approached my child it was wagging its tail in a friendly way (I know the difference) and my daughter put her hand out slowly and it just seemed to change. I have taught both of my children that they are not to just go running up to an animal, they are to always ask the owner first before they pet it and then to put their hands out slowly and let them sniff them first and to never mess with them when they are eating. Also as for the owners, one of them picked up the dog and was going to break its neck for doing this but one of his friends was there and told him not to because he could get into trouble and also his "friend" told him to lie and say it wasnt his dog because I could come back and make him pay for her medical bills (I found this out later) and I dont think my friend wanted to keep the dog or try to save it because he kept telling everyone he wanted it out of there before he did kill it himself. Also, as for the dog getting the bad end of the deal as it is dead, I would rather it die and be tested for rabies then for my daughter to have went through the rabies shots and I am sure any parent here would have to agree with that. Anyways thanks to all who responded and to those who actually care, my daughter is doing very well and doesnt seem to really bear any emotional problems from this. She is sometimes a little leary of some dogs (the overly friendly ones who jump on her) but what helped alot is that I explained what happened to her to a K-9 officer and he talked to her and let her pet his dog and I make sure to always remind them about always asking permission first and other things that go along with approaching an animal (and thanks for the tip about not looking them straight in the eyes, I honestly did not know that). | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 9:12:35 PM | I am very sorry for what happened to your daughter. I have had many different breeds of dogs in my life. And I abide by my one rule constently: Never leave a dog unattended by children. By this I mean, if the dog is not temperment tested and fully-trained, I would never fully trust it. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs. But all of my dogs are kept right by me and not left to raom around with children near. Even in the same room. I keep them by me. If a child wants to pet my dog I get my dog to sit. Tell the child how to appraoch then they can pet my dog. I watch my dog during the entire time, and watch his body. Nothing bad has ever happened. I have owned akitas, schnauzers, border collies. and many mixed breeds. All are fully trained and I would trust them with MY life.
Never take a chance with ANY animal and a child.
Oh, I have met many great pits, and it mostly depends on the owner. Of course it also depends on the parents temperments, situation, and whether or not the dog is fixed. After all this has been taken into account, then all you can do is be very careful. Dogs are great pets, some are just better than others.
I don't think pits should be banned, I think potential owners should have to get a licence to own any dog, and that the dog is required to go through a test for behaviour and obediance.
I hope this experience doesn't deter you from never going near other dogs. Good luck???(I guess) in the future. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 9:16:14 PM | I just want to say that if the dog had shown any behaviours that would have been a problem then I wouldnt have taken my daughters there. You are falling into the trap of projecting rationality onto a dumb animal. Alas, there probably would be no tell-tale signs that the dog was going to attack. But, if you understand the behavior of social pack animals (dogs, wolves, etc), you would know that such an attack was possible. Knowing that, its not a good idea to take such a risk. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 9:40:03 PM | | I also wanted to say that I do not hate dogs, actually I love animals. My oldest daughter when she was about 5 wanted to play with my neighbors dog (chow) and the owner said she could but then she was feeding the dog and she told the kids not to mess with the dog when it was eating because the dog didnt like it (that to me was being responsible on the owners part) but my daughter and another little girl didnt listen and the dog bit them. Now this was my daughters fault as she didnt listen and I let her know that (the bite wasnt serious) but the owner came to my house and apologized to me (I didnt actually know her) and checked on my daughter to make sure she was ok and told me that the dog had had all of its shots and I thanked her for respecting me enough to come and apologize when it was actually the kids' fault as she had told them not to mess with the dog but my friends didnt even give me that much respect but a stranger did. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/2/2006 11:36:50 PM | OP, when you say the dog just changed...I do apologize if I am asking something you have already stated. I jsut find it hard to believe that a dog would do this if it had been around the children before and there was no problems. Not that I am saying that it did not happen, not that it all. Just trying to weed out the things that could have happened? I myself, my heidi is a very dominant dog and had some rough spots with her so i learned first hand the ins and outs of that postering, I can see it in a strange dog, where the tail is sitting too that plays a big part in the tempermant of the dog of that moment. TOnight when I took Maxi (dobe german shepard husky mix) out to my parents for some running and play time, he had to be introduced, again, and it was rough at first but he finally got used to them and there yard. Wehn we were leaving, he was getting a drink for the trip home and my mom got near him at the water dish, he did this posture. I scolded him on the spot, as such he promptly stopped and let my mom near him at the water dish, and he finished the pan of water. My mom did not see it one bit and was blown away that I had just scolded maxi. Most people do not see it becuase it is something that is so suttle in a dog. And it can be described in another way as "something in the dog just changed" Somehow the dog felt threatened?! and I am so sorry this has happened to you and your daughter. I am glad to hear that she is recovering well and that the K-9 officer took the time with her.   | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 12:56:39 AM | Wow How odd that I find this thread today.. I was at my mothers house and a lady friend of hers who has two children 14 and 20 boys.. They have a female pittbull 2 1/2 years old that they brought over.. My two year old daughter is fascinated with animals and not always " gentle" she likes to point out there eyes and she sometimes pokes them and she likes to pull ears and pat the dogs relatively firm like.. So I've been trying to teach her to be gentle but in the mean time I dont leave her un attended with my dog an american eskimoe or my moms dog a bichon frise ( small dog ) but when I saw this pittbull i got so upset and everyone kept telling me dont worry dont worry dont worry she would never bite shes a nice dog... Even my own dog who I thought would never bite has snapped at my daughter before for pulling his tail.. So of course I was trying to keep her away from the pittbull and the owner is acting like Im some how insulting her.. Finnaly I let up and did a stupid thing and let her pet the dog and I took a step back the my daughter sat down and the dog walked away but then she turned and took three quick steps towards my daughter opened its mouth and licked my daughter.. but I freaked I swear it was meant to be a nibble but either way my heat was in my throat and I walked away and cried a little bit about how stupid I was I dont know if I could forgive myself after hearing about and knowing about how dogs can just turn on kids..
I know how quickly it can happy my daughters head would fit perfectly in this dogs mouth... I just think for the dogs best interest and childrens best interest kids should be supervised with animals and probably not allowed to play with other peoples animals without VERY close supervision... Anyways thats just my story | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 1:01:56 AM | | Doing this posting has made me think even more about that day and I am wondering (from reading others posts) if maybe the dog was feeling overwhelmed. My friends had only had the dog maybe six weeks when this happened and the other times we had been around the dog it was only me and my two kids and the teen who actually owned the dog and his dad and aunt but the day this happened there was all together five adults, two pre-teens, and about five or six teens running in and out and then my 4yo so maybe the dog was too overwhelmed or something and attacked the one thing that it felt it could control because of the size? I dont know. Thinking more about it maybe the dog should have been left in the backyard(fenced not chained) and who knows how the previous owners had treated it and maybe owners need to better trained on how to deal with any breed of dog instead of just getting one just to have one and then are to irresponsible to even get it its shots or even take care of it properly. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 1:11:20 AM | when it was actually the kids' fault Nope. Legally and ethically when a minor is bit its the fault of the owner of the dog virtually regardless of the situation. She should not have let the kids and the dog even be in the same place while the dog was eating, if at all. Glad the bite wasn't serious.
I know how quickly it can happy my daughters head would fit perfectly in this dogs mouth... I just think for the dogs best interest and childrens best interest kids should be supervised with animals and probably not allowed to play with other peoples animals without VERY close supervision... Anyways thats just my story Makes sense. If there is a substantial risk, don't risk it. And as far as the people that kept saying that the dog was no danger and then acted offended, well they were less intelligent than you. Its not a good idea to listen to people who are less intelligent than you are, and I can assure you that you will always be outnumbered by them.
I jsut find it hard to believe that a dog would do this if it had been around the children before and there was no problems Yet again someone is projecting human rationality onto a dumb animal. There is no intelligent reasoning behind a dog's behavior. Its based on conditioning and instinct. There is always a small chance any large, aggressive breed of dog will attack a small child, especially if the child is not familiar to the animal. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 1:20:56 AM | Oh and also some of my previous posts were because of what "bulldog" chose to post such as that I showed a lapse of judgement for knowing my friends had this dog and I chose to take my daughter into this dangerous situation. Well, first of all I dont know to many parents that "choose" to take their kids into a dangerous environment and my daughter had been around this dog on other occassions with no problems and yes I chose to go see my friends and knew they had this dog but since there werent any problems exhibited prior to this then I didnt think there was going to be a problem that time either. Im guessing noone should go visit anyone if there is any kind of dog in the home then so they dont get blamed for having a lapse in judgement and being blamed for their kid getting attacked, evidently I am supposed to stay in my own home with my kids and never take them anywhere. I suppose if I took my kids to the park and someones dog got loose and bit one of my kids then it would be my fault also as I am the one that took them there? Anyways, thanks to everyone who posted!  | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 1:35:13 AM | yes I chose to go see my friends and knew they had this dog but since there werent any problems exhibited prior You were pushing your luck each time you had those children around that animal.
Let me put it this way. Let's say there is rotting bridge over a ravine. Two people are debating whether it should be used to cross. Joe notes the nature of the bridge and realizes that while he may be able to cross a few times, it is likely it will eventually fail. Bob disagrees and tests the bridge by running across it and notices no signs that it will fail; it seems solid. So for the next few weeks Joe takes the the long way around and Bob takes the short cut over the bridge to school. One day Bob is not seen at school, because he is dead at the bottom of the ravine.
This is the fallacy you are making. It is inconvenient for you to acknowledge the nature of an object. In my analogy the object was a bridge. In your situation the object was a dog. The nature of the dog was that it was a large, aggressive breed of animal, despite its seemingly pleasant demeaner. Just like the nature of the bridge was that it was a decaying and unsafe structure (as evidenced by its compromised structural integrity and obvious signs of decay), despite that it seemed stable and sturdy when Bob ran across it.
Im guessing noone should go visit anyone if there is any kind of dog in the home then so they dont get blamed for having a lapse in judgement and being blamed for their kid getting attacked, No one is saying that at all. You can visit your friends all you like. But if they have a large aggressive animal you should not have your small children around the animal. They should put the animal in a room and close the door while the children are there. Its quite simple. The fact that your neighbors did not take that action is evidence of their own fault in this matter. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 2:08:45 AM | I believe I already answered that, as my dog is proof that it is NOT valid, and I doubt I am the only one who can say it. You did not prove a single one of his points wrong. You constructed a straw-man argument (that he was making as strict logical generalization) and then used an example of an exception to that strict logical generalization (which he did not make) to try to prove a point wrong that he never made.
He didn't make the generalization. YOU DID. He simply noted a statistical TENDENCY. He was not making a strict logical generalization. Since you obviously do not know the difference between a statistical tendency and a strict logical generalization, I will explain. A statistical tendency is when there is a trend of a certain type of behavior relative to a certain phenomena. A strict logical generalization is when you speak in mathematical absolutes. The fact that one dog behaves a certain way does not mean that all dogs will behave in exactly the same way. "One swallow does not make a summer"---Aristotle
If someone owned a 1500 pound Grizzly that was perfectly tame would you think that would make most or all Grizzly Bears safe for children? That would be an irrational generalization. Just like your generalization that because you believe your large, aggressive breed of dog is safe for children, then all such animals can be so. | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 2:10:12 AM | | I am not saying they should have put the dog in a room but maybe they could have put it in the backyard, it is fenced in so it would have had room to run around but I also dont think that I showed a lapse in judgement in taking my daughter over there when there had been no problems before but I did go by there two days after the attack to see why they hadnt even called to see how she was and they had two more pits in their backyard and I didnt even get my kids out of the car and just left and havent been back. I think that shows I do have some judgement that I was not going to put my kids in that situation again but it angered me to think that a child was attacked by their pit and they turned around and got two more. But while we are doing analogies, we were in a car accident a year ago, does that mean I am showing a lapse in judgement because I chose to drive my car with my child in it? | |
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 2:17:48 AM | I also dont think that I showed a lapse in judgement in taking my daughter over there when there had been no problems before If this is still your opinion at this juncture, your opinion is not going to change no matter what anyone tells you. Did you completely miss the point of the analogy about the bridge? Amazing. Fact is, it wasn't your dog. Primarilly, you are not at fault.
But while we are doing analogies, we were in a car accident a year ago, does that mean I am showing a lapse in judgement because I chose to drive my car with my child in it? I don't know, are you still not a safe driver?
1) It is not the nature of a car to cause car accidents (unless we are talking about the Ford Pinto). You see the frequency of the accidents is so low that it is not a characteristic of the phenomena (automobiles).
2) It is the nature of large, aggressive social pack animals like wolves or dogs to attack an animal that stares at them at eye level that is invading their territory. The frequency of the behavior (attack) is high enough that it is a characteristic of the phenomena (dog).
3) It is the nature of a rotting bridge to collapse when traversed upon too often. The frequency of the behavior (collapse) is high enough that it is a characteristic of the phenomena (rotting bridges).
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| What do you think about dangerous breeds of dogs? Posted: 7/3/2006 2:53:27 AM | To explain further, if I get into a car and drive down the street, let's say 500 times, I will probably not get into an accident.
If I am a 5 year old boy and I walked up to a strange pit bull in its own home and stared at it, let's say 6 times, it would not be improbable that I would get mauled somewhere between the fourth and the sixth time.
Just because you cross that rotting bridge the first few times and it seems perfectly stable, does not mean you can continue to cross the rotting bridge and expect it not to fail. Just because the first few times you took the children to an area were there was a large, aggressive natured animal and there was not an attack does not mean you should expect to get the same result if you continue to repeat the situation.
Like I said, at this juncture I don't expect for you to accept this. But I like to be crystal clear for everyone else participating in the thread.
My oldest daughter when she was about 5 wanted to play with my neighbors dog (chow) and the owner said she could but then she was feeding the dog and she told the kids not to mess with the dog when it was eating because the dog didnt like it (that to me was being responsible on the owners part) but my daughter and another little girl didnt listen and the dog bit them. I don't mean to seem insensitive. I am especially empathetic toward the child who was bitten. Yet, based on your reasoning I was not at all surprised to hear that one of the children had been bitten by another aggressive dog before. | |
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