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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/26/2006 10:27:25 PM |
Back in the sand eh? How's this, believe what you've been believing. Don't try
to expand. Believe that you've reached enlightenment...you'll feel good about yourself
and the rest of us won't care. I won't try to change your thoughts and beliefs because
they are after all your own. Good luck, you, and the rest of you dudes and dudesses.
We've proven that homosexuality is natural. Which boils things down to moral issues. You seem to think that two consenting adults enjoying sex together is immoral, I do not. | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/26/2006 10:28:13 PM | "because we are too busy working and having a life...not looking for handouts."
Who says gay people do NOT work and are looking for HANDOUTS there are SOME gay/lesbians out there today who are NOT like everyone,describes them to be and to me i dont think there is anything wrong with someone being gay/bi/lesbian i mean it shouldn't
matter of the persons sexuality.
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/26/2006 10:29:10 PM | Nosoup; I respect that you have an opinion on this matter. I am also under the belief that
you need to get passed the notion that much of the arguments are bigoted. I can accept that many people attack on that level but that's not me and that's not Dragon (although she has a more harsh way of putting out her argument). Your job is to listen carefully and absorb the information that's in front of you....don't' assume that there's any agenda. Just accept the information objectively and calmly. The moment somebody screams FIRE (and they will want to) you're gonna lose your concentration. So focus. Ignore the peanut gallery - those guys, i'm afraid are too militant to learn anything. They are narrow minded and beyond any hope. I won't even try. You seem to have a glimmer of intelligence in your eye's....don't let me down....I hope those aren't contacts that are glimmering. LOL | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/26/2006 10:42:20 PM |
They are narrow minded and beyond any hope. I won't even try. You seem to have a glimmer of intelligence in your eye's....don't let me down
I really do not find them narrow minded at all, sorry to let you down. My opinion was set before this thread even existed and I cannot see it changing any time soon. I come from a province that has a history of being redneck and I refuse to discriminate against people I do not even know. It seems to me that the bashing is done more on the anti gays than the other side. I respect your opinion as well and I choose not to agree with it. I dont recall any of the Ten Commandments saying thou shall not be gay either, lol. Base morality does not include what two consenting adults do in the bedroom as far as I can see. I am not gay, therefore I do not understand it, but, that does not mean I must condem or put myself on a pedistal judging it either. | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 12:00:31 AM | I can't speak for the rest of the straight world, but I personally don't crave attention. I especially don't feel the need to draw attention to my sexuality. I'm happy being treated and thought of as a normal human being, and normal human beings don't need parades to draw attention to themselves or their sexual practices, whatever they may be (in my opinion). I do not feel the need to use draw attention to my sexual practices as a means of gaining political momentum for other people like me. Of course, I've never been "oppressed" by "the man," so what would I know about wanting to be like everybody else by drawing massive amounts of attention to myself.
In a nutshell, I think "Pride Day" is silly, and I know lots of silly straight people, but none silly enough to think they need a parade to celebrate their sexuality. Both gays and straights can do that in the privacy of their own bedrooms, or at least in the privacy of a darkened theatre heheheeheeeeeeeeeeeee... | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 5:43:33 AM | What are you people on about? Good lord.
First, the parade is organized by the community. go start your own parade for whatever reason you desire and have at it. I'll be sure to post a complaint here in honor of you.
Second...ahh screw it. I can't get into arguing over morality at an internet dating site. If you don't like it don't do it.
Now I feel like grabbing my co-workers breasts in honor of the homophobes. | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 6:39:53 AM | because we are too busy working and having a life...not looking for handouts.
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It may surprise you but the average gay couple has a slightly higher income, and tax rate, than the average hetro couple. No hand outs.
There's no pride in hetro relationships because too many woman can't stomach the idea of admittting that "not all men are barstards. My bf/husband is a quality man. | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 7:55:43 AM | | Quite a few differant groups of people over the years were once treated like second class citizens....they all now live PROUD to be who they are. Why is it soo awful for homosexuals to feel the same way? | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 8:36:39 AM | Good Morning fellow posters. It's been quite entertaining to read the polar differences in replies to the OP's question.
I think Gay Pride Celebrations are a great way of showing solidarity. Its not widely understood that in most countries in this world homosexuality is punishable by death, long prison sentences, torture, and ostracism by families and communities - all of this for who they love!! There was an attempt at a Gay Pride march in Germany several weeks ago where the marchers were attacked by ignorant bystanders - can anyone even imagine that happening here (Canada)? I think Canada does a great job at acceptance - marriage, pension rights, adoption, parenting...Canada has it going on for rights of same sex couples, more countries should emulate our beliefs. The world would be a better place for it.
Also, I recently read a review of a science article in the Toronto Star. Researchers discovered that the more older brothers a man had, the more likely he was to be homosexual. The researchers studies several hundred sets of siblings and infer that it is the mother's reproductive system that determines the sexual orientation of the fetus. Therefore, sexual orientation is Nature not Nurture... Biological not Choice...in the Genes not the Jeans...I found this fascinating and wish I could quote the study more, but can't find the d*mn thing! Toronto Star (approximately June 23-26). To be published in a science journal at the end of the month.
Regarding all the bible thumping - I don't consider myself a Christian, a spiritual person yes, but I have found through the years that religion has odd rules. Not allowing gay priests - they would be required to observe the vow of celibacy just like every other priest!?. Yes I realize somewhere in some book of the bible it states that a union is one man and one woman - but that is a writers interpretation of God's message is it not? Cause as far as I've understood it, God didn't write any of this stuff down. When men started interpreting God's word they chose to write what they believed God wanted. And besides that, since they didn't have mass production of written works back in the day, every time someone wanted a copy, they would have to write it out themselves, which could lead to further interpretation of the previous writers interpretation...seems a real puzzler to me - what did He really intend in the beginning?? And should people be quoting from this old world game of telephone???
By the by - did you know that the Bible was written by the same people who thought the world was flat????? I'm laying my bets on science...lol
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 10:51:53 AM | Homophobes are truly sad people. They'd insist it is a lifestyle "choice" because they can't imagine it being biological in nature. But, why would anyone consciously decide to be an outcast in society by "choosing" to be gay? There are so many studies done to show the link between homosexuality and biology are tied together.
Heck, here's an article from yesterday! It's too bad tolerance isn't more widely practiced. If it doesn't hurt you personally, why hate? Why do we have to hate what we don't understand? I guess pure wanton bigotry is a much simpler option for simpler minds.
Male Sexuality May be Decided in the Womb
18:09 26 June 2006
NewScientist.com News Service
Alison Motluk
If you are male, having more older brothers makes it more likely you will be gay - and a new study suggests the basis of this is biological rather than environmental. The crucial factor influencing the likelihood of male homosexuality may be how many brothers were born before you to the same mother, not how many brothers you were brought up with.
The “fraternal birth order effect” - the finding that each additional older brother increases your chances of being homosexual by about 30% - has long been dogged by the suggestion that social factors rather than biological ones underpin it (see The big brother effect).
Some proposed that perhaps rough-and-tumble play between brothers, or even sexual abuse, may have led the impressionable younger boys to become gay.
Now Anthony Bogaert at Brock University in St Catharines, Canada, has largely ruled that out. He examined four population samples of homosexual and heterosexual men - 944 men in total.
The fourth sample included gay men who had grown up with non-biological male siblings. Bogaert reasoned that if simply being raised around a lot of older brothers had produced the effect, it should not matter whether they were born to the same mother or not.
In fact, it did matter: only the number of biological older brothers predicted sexual orientation in men, Bogaert found. This was true even when the biological older brothers lived separately. “It’s pretty strong in suggesting a prenatal origin,” he says.
Journal reference: Proceedings on the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073_pnas.0511152103) | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 10:56:53 AM | | i have often said the same thing and while we're at it whay not mak apirade for mixed couples to be quiet ahunest i think that the gay pride pirade is rediculas they complain about ridicual but come on strait people dont have a peraide nore would we wear assless chaps on a float if we did and if we did we would also be ridiculed | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 10:59:22 AM | ^ nah we could just ridicule you for your terrible spelling.
honestly the homophobia in this thread is downright frightening! If you don't like the gay lifestyle don't take part in it! It's that simple.
Why does a parade or celebrating the fact that at least in some places in this world people are free to love whomever they want? | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 1:03:47 PM | Santa gets a parade.. but god forbid if actual real life humans, want to celebrate something true and real.
pretty sure.. ho ho ho.. ain't celebrating the birth of christ.
how is this even a debate. seriously. | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 1:16:49 PM | Grrr ... This thread is f.cking pathetic to start with! Anyhow ...
The first gay pride parade in 1969, known as the March on Stonewall, started as a protest against discrimination and violence against gays in New York City. Today, pride events have become an annual ritual and have grown to include thousands of gay and gay-friendly participants, not to mention hundreds of spectators. Many gays and lesbians dress in bright colors, head-to-toe leather or sometimes next to nothing. But regardless of the attire, all of the participants join the festivities to remind the world that gays deserve the same rights as others and people should be free to live their own lifestyle, void of judgement or hate. Gay pride is also a symbol of solidarity and an opportunity to express the vivid personalities which reflect the diverse gay communities throughout the world. During this time (and in many places year round), the skies are covered with the gay pride flags and banners, the symbol of gay solidarity and freedom. | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 1:29:18 PM | Not again. We just went through this a couple weeks ago with the whole same-sex marriage thread. Number of different players this time though, but once again the same sad left-wing statements. I predict this thread will not survive any longer than the last one.
In the end it’s all the same from the conservatives. “I don’t like it, therefore it is wrong. Everyone should act the same as me or be demonized”.
Hmm… Once again they cannot clearly demonstrate any data to show that same-sex orientation is harmful, while the wealth of statistics and science articles continually point to it being biological in origin and harmless.
What’s amusing is how upset they get when labeled “homophobe” after their ranting.
pho•bi•a P Pronunciation Key (f b - )
n.
1. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
2. A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.
Yep. Looks like they are indeed suffering from a phobia.
So what’s the story folks? Why so much venom? Does a gay person owe you money or something? | |
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| Why is there no Pride Day for heterosexual relationships?
Posted: 6/27/2006 1:57:56 PM | Ahhhhhhh we're all free to do/think/say what we want, etc... whatever - especially in Canada. You're allowed to do anything or anybody you want (as long as they're at least 14 years old) and even if you do break the law, there are no real penalties anyway. "Tolerance" and a lax legal system go hand in hand.
The problem is, you can only give people so many freedoms before chaos ensues and "survival of the fittest" resumes where government/civilization has exploded/imploded. You can apply this to homosexuality or any other "moral question" or "issue" you want, really.
I don't really dig homosexuality as a "lifestyle," but I don't really oppose it either. I also don't believe the whole "it's strictly biological" argument either. "Scientists" on both sides of any debate are biased (to be human is to have biases... why else would we care enough to research/investigate things?), so you will always find plenty of "scientific evidence" to back up both sides. And, if you don't like a particular piece of evidence, you are free to label the contributor of such evidence "intolerant," "ignorant," "fruity," "gay," or anything else you, as a biased reader (and we all are), choose.
Be proud of who you are and/or what you stand for - that's your "right..." What I do not appreciate is being bombarded by people who tell me I have to accept/tolerate/condone something or else I'm an intolerant ignoramus. I believe I, as a human being, have a right not to have people shove their special interests down my throat. It happens all the time, but ya know what? I just deal with it. And the people who do it should deal with it to, or shut the hell up 
As far as parades, etc..., whatever, as long as it isn't a freakshow (which "pride" parades - at least the ones that get media coverage - usually are). I wouldn't appreciate a heterofreakshow either, for the record. | |
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