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Posted: 6/25/2006 6:23:03 PM | | For myself, Over the last 4 years I have noticed my erections are not as often or as long lasting as they use to be. I haven't reached the point where I need these pills but I can see that going that way. I have thought about getting a prescription however I personnaly don't like taking any medicines, even asprin. While sex is fun and always seems to become part of my relationships I find that a woman that is a true friend, whose mind and feeling feel like they are my own is much more desirable. She becomes much more beautiful and "love" more fufilling. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2006 6:43:22 PM | Magic Fingers and Eldermint - what a great contribution you've made to this post! (everyone else too). I've learned a ton of information here and it's just such a pleasure to read and post with fishies who have a heart and a brain too!
My only other comment about ED might be that it seems to me if my partner were having difficulties, maybe I could 'help'? Am I being naive? | |
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Posted: 6/25/2006 7:21:36 PM | Considerations
Occasional impotence occurs in about half of adult men in the U.S., and chronic impotence affects about 1 in 8 American men. The chances of impotence increase with age.
Impotence can be classified as primary or secondary. A man with primary impotence has never had an erection sufficient for intercourse. Secondary impotence is the loss of erectile function after a period of normal function. Except for impotence caused by injury or sudden illness, secondary impotence usually comes on gradually.
Treatment of secondary impotence is usually more successful than that of primary impotence because, despite current impotence problems, there is some history of normal penile function in the past.
There are several components required for an erection:
A responsive emotional state of mind
A normally functioning pituitary
Adequate testosterone
Adequate penile blood supply
Premature ejaculation (when orgasm comes on too quickly to satisfy either partner) is different from impotence. The couple should seek counseling for this problem.
Male infertility is quite different from impotence. A man who is unable to maintain an erection may be perfectly normal in every other way and very capable of fathering a child. An infertile male may be able to have intercourse normally, but he may be unable to father a child.
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Posted: 6/25/2006 7:51:29 PM | Magicfingers described the physiology excellently. Used to be a doctor? Of those four components, the blue pill addresses only the blood supply issue. I found that the situation worsened right after the divorce because of the pressure of a new partner. Anxiety does terrible things to "a responsive emotional state of mind".
Marcia, partner can help most by being understanding and realizing that it's not her failure so, sometimes yes and sometimes no. When there are no 'plumbing problems' and the blood supply is just low, the blue pill can help if it's not abused. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2006 8:55:52 PM | | I take viagra light,,it doesnt get me fully erect but i look damn good in my speedo | |
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Posted: 6/25/2006 9:14:00 PM | Table Two – Common Treatments for Erectile Dysfunction.
Product/Drug Name
Brand Name
Made By
How Works
Contra-indications
Sildenafil citrate
Viagra
Pfizer
Pill (taken orally).
Blocks the
enzyme that
breaks down the substance that
helps maintain erections. Increases blood flow to the penis.
Heavy meals can interfere with the absorption of the drug into the body. Side effects include headaches, flushing, blue-tinged vision diarrhoea or indigestion. Men using drugs containing any form of nitrate (like nitroglycerin for heart pain) should not use Viagra. A dangerous drop in blood pressure could result. Viagra also should not be used within 4 hours of taking an alpha blocker, a drug used to treat benign prostate conditions.
Vardenafil
Levitra
Bayer and Glaxo SmithKline
Pill (taken orally).
An enzyme-blocker that increases the blood flow to the penis.
Should not be used by men taking nitrate drugs for angina, or medication for prostate problems.
Tadalafil
Cialis
Eli Lily
Pill (taken orally).
Blocks an enzyme called phosphodiesterase-5, or PDE-5 so allows more blood to enter the penis.
Not suitable for men taking nitrates. Side effects include headaches, dizziness, nasal congestion and indigestion.
Apomorphine hydrochloride
Uprima
Abbott
Pill (taken orally).
Acts on areas of the brain known to be involved in the erectile process. It works via the body's natural signalling pathways and acts to enhance the signals which allow an erection to occur.
Side effects include nausea, headaches and dizziness, Men should not take it if they have severe unstable angina, recent heart attack, severe heart failure or low blood pressure,
In combination with other centrally-acting dopamine agonists or antagonists.
Alprostadil
MUSE
Vivas
Pellet placed in urethra.
Side effects in men include light-headedness, dizziness, fainting, rapid pulse and swelling of the leg veins. Some discomfort in the penis when first used. Female partners can experience discomfort and itchiness in the vagina (condoms are suggested to overcome this, and also where a female partner is pregnant). Men with abnormally formed penises, diseases that might result in prolonged erection (e.g. sickle cell anaemia or trait, leukaemia, multiple myeloma) should not use MUSE.
What do men think ‘sex drugs’ do?
Due to the coverage of sex drugs in the press, journalists and readers frequently misunderstand that existing sex drugs are aimed only at a minority of men with a chronic clinical condition that causes erectile problems (Boynton, 2004b). Anecdotal evidence from organisations such as the Sexual Dysfunction Association (UK), suggests men believe the drugs they hear about have aphrodisiac properties, increase their penis size, or make them a better lover. This is frequently played upon by the marketing strategies of pharmaceutical companies who use illustrations of happy heterosexual couples (Tiefer, 2004), sports or political figures such as Bob Dole (Loe, 2004), or catchphrases such as ‘the mark of love’ (accompanying a picture of a man’s back scarred with fingernail scratches in a “V” shape, for Viagra) to imply the medications do more than act on erections (Boynton, 2001).
Furthermore, the marketing and discussion of sex drugs, alongside a media preoccupation with having ‘great (performative) sex’, means men are eager to try anything that will make them good in bed, make their penis larger, make them seem more attractive, or make it easier to get someone to sleep with them (Vares, Potts, Gavey and Grace, 2003). Marketing that plays on these issues leads to further confusion about the purpose of medication.
Why are men such easy targets?
It can be argued men are more susceptible to the marketing of sex drugs for several reasons. Firstly, many men lack comprehensive sex education when they are younger, meaning they are uncertain about how their bodies should look and behave (Singleton, 2003). And there are few sources of information for adult men to use, so many use porn as a means to find out about sex (Singleton, 2003; Boynton 2000), which can make them feel more inadequate about their penis size, shape and sexual performance. As one man wrote to me “I am a 41 year old man and realise that sex is not such a wonderful experience as it should be. Recently I watched a porn video and noticed that the guy produced an amazing amount of semen. In comparison I produce only a fraction. Could this be the reason why an orgasm is not such a great sensation for me? If so, how do I get more out of my sex life? I feel like I’m missing out somewhere”.
Whilst women’s media and self-help books are not without their critics (Zimmerman, Haddock and McGeorge, 2001), they do offer a source of information about sex, even if it may be flawed. Sex for women is constructed as being a mix of the physical and the emotional, men’s sexual identities are structured around performance, stamina and size (Singleton, 2003; Zimmerman, Holm and Haddock, 2001; Loe 2004). Therefore men lack specific information about their bodies, and fill in the gaps with stories and ideas that may make them more anxious. Big-pharma companies and men’s media tend to exacerbate this by playing on sex-as-performance messages, or suggesting in former GQ editor Michael Van Meulen’s words ‘real men don’t have problems’. One UK men’s magazine recently refused to support a sexual health campaign because, in their words, it was ‘too heavy and might make men seem like losers’.
The marketing of sex drugs also adds to this. Placed in the role of the ‘advisor’, pharmaceutical advertising or big-pharma-led magazine or news articles fill the gaps in men’s knowledge, often deliberately using male focussed events to promote their products. Within the scandal of ‘Janetgate’ at this year’s US Superbowl, where singer Janet Jackson ‘accidentally’ exposed her breast, and the public hype about this ‘obscenity’, many missed that the erectile functioning drug Cialis (manufactured by Eli Lily) sponsored the whole event. The drug was shown in 60 second adverts during breaks in the game, marketed to the viewers as the ‘weekend pill’ (due to it’s claims to last longer than it’s rivals) with the advert clearly showing what the drug could do to enhance men’s sex lives (Loe, 2004). Whilst I am not dismissing the very real distress sexual problems can cause to men and their partners, it seems ironic that not a murmur was made about advertising penis-enhancing products, but the glimpse of one nipple caused public outrage – and the possibility of a $550,000 fine for CBS television studios. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2006 9:24:03 PM | | Prostate surgery is becoming so commonplace for men in this age catagory, I would like to address that also. There is no pill that is going to help. It leaves men feeling frustrated and angry, and women feeling helpless. We have all become so accustomed to thinking of sex in traditional terms, we convince ourselves that without that ability, a part of our lives are over. Let me assure you, it is not. With an open mind, you can both explore exciting and errotic vistas you only imagined. I would never exclude a dear and otherwise wonderful guy because of that difficulty. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 3:29:22 AM | Will never forget helping out a older guy down the road
Was on his roof when I heard a scream
He had a heart attack on top of his 75yr old girlfriend
He was 86
Hes definitly my hero and someone to remember
By the way, this was 20 odd years ago
No pills around then
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Posted: 6/26/2006 6:12:53 AM | | Eldermint - so, if the blood supply is just low, then there's no physical help that will make the blood supply better? And what about our sex drive that's between our ears? Does this then become negated totally because of low blood supply? | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 6:38:58 AM | I think that some men do need it for medical reasons. A lot more need it because they are not in shape, or spend all there time worrying about the office - while still in bed with their significant other.
If you love someone, are in shape, and keep everything is perspective - I think those pills are not needed by the vast majority of men. Occasional problems can occur with any man, and should be expected. You don't throw away the keys to your car when it doesn't start one morning - do you ? 
Drug companies love making us think we are "ill" , and need their product to make our lives better. Some are truly miracle drugs, and are a godsend for the minority that need them.
Most of the rest are just believing the hype, and making the drug companies a lot richer.
That's the fascinating thing about America. It's totally anti-drug - unless you mean pharmaceuticals.  | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 10:26:58 AM | A lot of this hinges on WHY the man has ED. Sometimes it is mental. When it is physical it all comes down to circulation, but there's the rub. Diabetics need to be VERY CAREFUL what they mix together. Men with prostate issues and high blood pressure need to be wary too.
Given the choice between not having sex and not having pulse, I know what I'd pick.
And if men post serious responses to that, I know what they'd pick too.
Practice other ways to please a woman and the ED won't be an issue. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 4:07:41 PM | | koiboi, you want an honest response, and I will give it to you. At 45, when I had a bout with ED, the answer would have been I would rather not have the PULSE. Now, having dealt with the issues and happily resolved them, NO. There are other ways to make your partner feel loved and keep her happy sexually than a great insertion. Any one who has investigated the options knows. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 4:43:18 PM | The Magician -
There are other ways to make your partner feel loved and keep her happy sexually than a great insertion. Any one who has investigated the options knows. - Well said  Call me at 604 ... ooops sorry, just kidding  | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 5:16:38 PM | | If my current bf were to develop ed, he could take care of me other ways. But, to go into a relationship knowing he has this problem, I don't think so. Not for me. I have enough of my own problems. ONly if he was real rich and we were to get married, then, I would consider that part of the package deal. Not into a new dating situation. Not fair to me. Don't you agree guys? I give alot, and I exprect alot, not just in great sex, but in all other areas as well. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 5:32:02 PM | | dahliakitten, as my previous post indicated, I don't agree. I wouldn't discount a man for having ED anymore than I would discount him for fat earlobes. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 6:58:55 PM | Horselady, 604-***-****??? Just kidding. I have met women who want nothing more than the "great insertion", but through experimentation and desperation, I discovered that penile sex is not the absolute be all to end all. Love, tenderness, and attention to your partner can mean so much more and be very much more fulfilling than a quick bang. To each their own, but the original intent of this post was education, I believe. I appreciate the flattery however, I won't deny that! To those who couldn't, or haven't, resolved their ED problems mentally or physically, the original OP wants to know the answers, and I have only offered my experiences.
When I read back on this post, it seems like I am dissing horselady, but to be sure, I was not. Sorry for the misconception. Just an old fart with a quick hand on the
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Posted: 6/26/2006 8:40:23 PM | | Marcia2, as mentioned by someone, if there's a 'plumbing problem' such as results sometimes from prostrate treatments, it may be that none of these drugs is going to help. If you can't get the blood to go there, it's not going to work. That doesn't mean he won't enjoy touching, it just means he's not going to orgasm and that's just the way it is. Anyone disagree? | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 8:51:17 PM | | While sex can most certainly be an important part of a relationship, I would not disqualify someone based on ED. I would hope the person and I could work at it together, but if the drugs didn't do the trick, it is still the quality of the person that matters. An amazing penis does not make an amazing man. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 9:39:42 PM | Magician- absolutely on target with your post.  | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 10:31:12 PM |
An amazing penis does not make an amazing man.
Excellent thought! My grandmother always said that owning a big paintbrush didn't make you an artist! | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 4:41:35 AM | just saw on the news this a.m....
Rush Limbaugh detained at Palm Beach Airport
after authorities discover bottle of viagra! | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 5:23:34 AM |
I discovered that penile sex is not the absolute be all to end all. Love, tenderness, and attention to your partner can mean so much more and be very much more fulfilling than a quick bang. To each their own, but the original intent of this post was education, I believe.
OP, great post and most informative.
Magician, you are absolutely 100% correct. I have been in this type of situation and have found that the "great insertion" is not the only answer to the problem, and that sexual behavior starts in the brain and afterwards remains in the brain for disection well after the original act is completed. This has nothing whatsoever to do with intercourse. Give me a man that has ED any day, for they have learned the great art of having sex. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 6:16:24 AM | Eldermint, thanks for your explanation. I've learned a great deal on this topic thanks to you and this forum.
Sapphire, I think your grandma's comment is wonderful! I love when a person has a way with words.
Ascuteasabug, you've captured a great reaction to this post in one phrase - brilliant! | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 6:57:27 AM | | Hey Marcia,maybe bad choice of words,"soften your message",,,,lol,,just made me laugh | |
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