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Posted: 6/27/2006 7:07:53 PM | Sapphireblues,
I'm so sorry about your news. I posted on this topic prior to or in conjuction to your message and I didn't realize you had posted your news.
I was diagnosed with cancer three times in three different areas of my body from 1985 to 1995. With treatment and a positive attitude I have beat it & I've been cancer free for 11 yrs.
Keep your chin up...stay positive..and I'll look for your thread.
My thoughts and prayers will be with you tonight and for the nights to come.
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Posted: 6/27/2006 7:24:16 PM | | Myself...I am just grateful for the timing...as we got to the age where thats a worry...along comes the little blue pill...and later his cousins..lol...so it takes the pressure off to find someone...lol. I just love it when a plan comes together..lol. What a great generation we were born into... | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 7:33:02 PM | | No one has mentioned that it is a very loving thing for a man to do for his lady. It must be difficult on the male ego to go speak to a doctor about such personal things. But as long as its safe for a man to take it, I believe its a very loving act. That closeness and intimacy are still important to both men and women. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2006 2:50:14 PM | Sapph.
Hugs and prayers to you and your family. Now give it hell and get about the business of "living" Honey. 
~Tansi~ | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 10:00:17 AM | A useful thread. And men could appropriately identify their needs.
Is there a pill for kissing, hugging as well. The brain is one that needs some help. Ha! | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 2:09:19 PM | Thanks for resurrecting this thread napjoe. I was sapphireblues in a 'former life'. I got a ton of email thanking me for starting it, and I think it's still very useful.
~Bobbin | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 2:52:03 PM | | Reincarnation? Yikes. What next? The next life a butterfly? Oh, maybe Donald Trump's ex. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 3:16:23 PM | It's up to the man (pun not intended), together with his partner, to make an informed choice about using any drug that might enable or enhance performance.
There are always risks with any medication and it's vitally important to be fully informed. That said, some men choose to take the "little blue pill" some of the time, because THEY want to experience a full sex life that includes a sustainable erection, some of the time. Physical attraction etc. has to be there for the pill to work - it isn't magic, but I'm glad it exists. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 3:49:14 PM | | Ladies let me tell ya .........little blue pills are the best !!! It's like dating a 20 year old all over again. (sigh) | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 11:30:43 PM | Gidday.
Well the simple truth is yes we men get erectile problems as we get older. What the fairer sex needs to realise is that this can generally be offset by a little extra titilation and stimulation. Sometimes things get bendy in the middle at a moment none too appropriate. Just go back and restart proceedings.
A woman with an older lover (male) should now realise what the males have had to deal with over their entire sex life. I'm referring of course to foreplay. Younger men are ready to go at a moments notice so many women have not had to stimulate their man for action. So unless she is constantly attracting toy boys, she will need to pay closer attention to her partner to keep him hard.
From the mans view point, older women at least know what they want saving him hours possibly weeks of barking up the wrong tree (so to speak). Older guys have honed their oral skills. Older ladies are great and so are 'us blokes' if the ladies are prepared to work a little harder for their fun.
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Posted: 2/19/2007 2:17:43 AM | Most men are very sensitive to any mention of ED, I was when I had to start dealing with it in my early 40's. All of my adult life I have been a diabetic with high blood pressure, not because of bad living but inherited from a long line of people on my Mom's side of the family with the same problems, Mom included.
My ED issues started slowly with the inability to reach full erection every once in a while. As the years progressed it became more and more frequent, not to mention frustrating. Finally I had a long conversation with my doctor followed by many tests. I tried Cialis, didn't work. Viagra, interacts with BP medication. Levitra, works sometimes.
My problem has multiple facets, first the combination of hypertension and diabetes almost always leads to ED. Secondly my testosterone levels fall off dramatically in the afternoon and evening. And third, glucophage a diabetic medication taken in conjunction with my insulin, seems to be playing a major factor also. The kicker here, glucophage is not known to cause ANY sexual side effects, but it does in me.
I know some are thinking testosterone replacement therapy, that's what I thought too. But administering the therapy to a diabetic who can't get their A1C levels below a moderate level adds undue stress onto your kidneys which are already taxed by the diabetes.
It is impossible in my mind for a woman to feel what a man goes through when he's laying there with a beautiful woman, turned on to the 10th power (read horny as hell) and the damn thing will not work. It's a level of frustration that exceeds most others.
However, over the years I have learned to adapt. Let me awaken, give me a little time to get really woke up, help get things going and I'm good for one session. Another in the early to middle afternoon, sometimes requiring a little help from Levitra. After dinner, late at night, forget it. It will not work. We can work around that though if you're excited. To overcome this issue and keep a woman satisfied when she needs to be, I have tried to learn and become adept at oral and the usage of several toys. Nobody has ever complained except my last short relationship, she could not get over the fact it was not her who caused the problem. All she could say was she didn't turn me on. We didn't end because of this, there were many other issues which kept our time together short lived, but her attitude was becoming an issue. I think mostly because she didn't want to have sex in the daytime.
I am always upfront about my condition and can speak openly about any sexual situation. If a woman can't accept this condition, we shouldn't be together anyway. We all have faults and we all have to accept each others conditions to stay together.
Guys, if you experience ED, talk to your doctor and talk to your partner or potential partner. Once you learn what's going on with your body, take action and try to correct the problem.
To everyone, a guy not having an erection is not the end of sex. There are many, many things that can offer complete satisfaction without an erect penis. Be inventive, creative and not afraid to try new things.
Sorry for the length, just a perspective from someone who has been dealing with this for several years. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2007 5:50:15 AM | ^^ good post, rkick! Your honesty is refreshing. You appear to have learned what works for you and your partner, and when. There are indeed many many things that can offer complete satisfaction.
Best of luck in the pond. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2007 6:15:32 AM | Although I have no personal experience with the little blue pill, I think it is great that something is available for ED. It has always been the woman that has had to carry the responsibility of sex. Mainly being birth control pills, IUD, lubricants, and alot of other stuff. I could never picture myself tossing a man to the curb because of ED. What would be sad is if he was too "whatever" not to reach out for help. I could never take birth control pills. I would have been an outcast for life according to some of the posters comments about using medications to help in the sex department. You have to find what works for each other. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2007 5:24:19 PM | | Here's the way I see it: taking a lil' blue pill isn't just for me, it's for my partner, as well. If I'm performing solo, it's no big deal. But if I'm part of a duet, well....all the equipment needs to work! | |
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Posted: 2/19/2007 8:00:56 PM | I just wanted to revisit some items brought out earlier in this thread.
Viagra, Levitra and Cialis all work by the same mechanism, PDE-5 inhibitor. Like everything else in the body, there are systems to get a erection, and systems to take it away. None of these drugs affect the "get an erection" mechanism. They work by inhibiting the "lose the erection" mechanism. Inhibitiion of PDE-5 means cGMP remains in the blood stream, keeping the muscles relaxed that allow blood flow into the penis.
ED drugs do not give a man erections, it helps him keep one. So I don't buy the arguement that they are somehow not related to stimlation. If a man cannot get an erection, these drugs won't help.
Like all drugs, a certain percentage of the population will have adverse affects, and a certain percentage will get no effect. That's why a doctor needs to be involved. Especially since the target demographic is older men, who are more likely to have other conditions requireing medications that cause adverse drug interaction. The reason nitrates don't mix with PDE-5 inhbitors is the release of NO in the muscles drop the blood pressure, and the mechanism to raise blood pressure has been inhibited.
PDE-5 inhibitors were reseached originally as a hypertension medicine and angina treatment. Results didn't show any advantage over known treatments, but testing did surface the increased erections side effect, and Pfizer then switched the focus of that research into ED.
Finally, according to the FDA, the half life for maximum precribed doses for each drug is
Viagra 3-4 hours
Levitra 4-5 hours
Cialis 17.5 hours
with an effective window of about twice those numbers.
How important intercourse is to a couple is a matter of personal choice. These drugs do give couples a chance to enjoy it more often and longer than otherwise possible.
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Posted: 2/20/2007 7:53:40 AM | | Plain & simple, Viagra works, and works very well! The only time using it bothers me mentally, is when I am walking away from paying for them! However, like my DR told me, "what other recreation can you get for 10 bucks, that compares with sex?" For me, the lack of the 'what if it don't get hard' pressure is worth the 10 bucks, because take it from a viagra user, Gentlemen, you ARE gonna have wood from the first to the end! It's almost like being 18 yrs old again! Myself, I get no side effects, other than a smiling G/F. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2007 9:41:01 AM |
It's up to the man (pun not intended), together with his partner, to make an informed choice about using any drug that might enable or enhance performance.
There are always risks with any medication and it's vitally important to be fully informed. That said, some men choose to take the "little blue pill" some of the time, because THEY want to experience a full sex life that includes a sustainable erection, some of the time. Physical attraction etc. has to be there for the pill to work - it isn't magic, but I'm glad it exists.
I am all for the little blue pill if you have to use it. It is a fair fact that a majority of men suffer from some kind of issue with maintaining an erection after their 40's. Why wouldn't you want to take something to help you if there was something out there that was safe and prescribed to you by your doctor?
When I get a headache, I take an aspirin. Problem solved. If only every problem was so easily solved. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2007 9:56:26 AM | It is impossible in my mind for a woman to feel what a man goes through when he's laying there with a beautiful woman, turned on to the 10th power (read horny as hell) and the damn thing will not work. It's a level of frustration that exceeds most others.
that is true...but.... having experienced a period of ED, I discovered too late the female side of it. It is humiliating and ego deflating for the man to experience (what he has never experienced before) the lack of an erection when all systems are "a GO" - but hte woman suffers as well - suffers from feelings of " I am not attractive - if I were he would get an erection" equally deflating. I was so embarrassed and humiliated, I left the bed - feeling wounded and needing her assurances - never envisioning that she needed mine! Once I had the experience, I then suffered from fear of reoccurance and avoided sex - it becamse a self fullfilling prophecy. after years of avoiding sex, we finally discussed it. As one poster correctly said, viagra doesnt give an erection, it removes the physical problems the remove erections. During the period of sex avoidance, I secretly took Viagra on saturday nights - waiting for the erection in which case I would swoop in and carry her to bed - but no erection came. why? because I had psychological blockage not physical. when we fianlly discussed it, we decided we needed to reestablsih intimacy - not sex but just naked talking kissing and touching with ground rules of no sex expected. what happened? 2nd time we 'almost did it' and 3 rd time we were back in full swing and problem resolved. In my case, I as a typical male, panicked at my first ED experience and handled it poorly. communciation and understanding the rejection that both experience and patience (and maybe viagra) can get it back on track | |
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Posted: 2/20/2007 10:17:18 AM | This is from the private diary of a Viagra housewife...
Day 1
Just celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary with not much to celebrate.
When it came time to re-enact our wedding night, he locked himself in
the bathroom and cried.
Day 2
Today, he says he has a big secret to tell me. He's impotent, he says,
and he wants me to be the first to know. Why doesn't he tell me
something I don't know! I mean, he actually thinks I haven't noticed.
Day 3
This marriage is in trouble. A woman has needs. Yesterday, I saw a
picture of Nelson's Column and burst into tears.
Day 4
A miracle has happened! There's a new drug on the market that will fix
his 'problem'. It's called Viagra. I told him that if he takes Viagra,
things will be just like they were on our wedding night. I think this
will work. I replaced his Prozac with the Viagra, hoping to lift
something other than his mood.
Day 5
What absolute bliss!!!
Day 6
Isn't life wonderful but it's difficult to write while he's doing that.
Day 7
This Viagra thing has gone to his head. No pun intended! Yesterday, at
Burger King, the manager asked me if I'd like a Whopper. He thought they
were talking about him. But, have to admit it's very nice - I don't
think I've ever been so happy.
Day 8
I think he took too many over the weekend. Yesterday, instead of mowing
the lawn, he was using his new friend as a weed wacker. I'm also getting
a bit sore down there.
Day 9
No time to write. He might catch me.
Day 10
Okay, I admit it. I'm hiding. I mean, a girl can only take so much. And to make matters worse, he's washing the Viagra down with neat whisky! What am I going to do? I feel tacky all over....
Day 11
I'm basically being screwed to death. It's like living with a Black and Decker drill. I woke up this morning hot-glued to the bed. Even my armpits hurt. He's a complete pig.
Day 12
I wish he was gay. I've stopped wearing make-up, cleaning my teeth or even washing but he still keeps coming after me! Even yawning has become dangerous...
Day 13
Every time I shut my eyes, there's a sneak attack! It's like going to bed with a scud missile. I can hardly walk and if he tries that "Oops, sorry" thing again, I'll kill the **stard.
Day 14
I've done everything to turn him off. Nothing is working. I even started dressing like a nun but this just seems to make him more horny. Help me!
Day 15
I think I'll have to kill him. I'm starting to stick to everything I sit on. The cat and dog won't go near him and our friends don't come over any more. Last night I told him to go and f*ck himself and he did.
Day 16
The **stard has started to complain about headaches. I hope the bloody thing explodes. I did suggest he might try stopping the Viagra and going back on Prozac.
Day 17
Switched the pills but it doesn't seem to have made any difference...Christ! Here he comes again!
Day 18
He's back on Prozac. The lazy sod just sits there in front of the TV all day with that remote control in his hand and expects me to do everything for him. What absolute bliss!
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Posted: 3/18/2007 5:45:54 PM | | I think it should be in the water, on in a can of pop like "Jolt". I bet if a man could walk into a drug store and buy it off the shelf, many many would try it. In Mexico you can buy it without a Rx. Years ago, men and women were conditioned to let go of their desire as they aged. Today is different! Lots of us (still) enjoy making love. Some of us more than ever before becaue we are so comfortable with ourselves. We boomers can remain young! | |
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Posted: 3/18/2007 6:50:42 PM | "Facts. The class of drugs that includes Viagra and others works by breaking down nitrates in the blood. The original research premise was that it would make a good heart medication, perhaps during an attack. It didn't work well. How they got from there to ED is a mystery to me but that's where it went. Breaking down nitrates allows blood vessels to dialate. When the vessels dialate, ... guess what! More blood ..."
I believe the story is that the men who participated in the initial studies asked for more pills after the study was over, and when the drug company became curious and investigated, well, you can imagine the rest. "Viagra does what? Forget heart treatment -- this is bigger!"
There are a lot of men using viagra who don't need it, also. It will shorten the time between erections. So some guys who think they may have a hot friday night lined up will pop one and hope they get lucky several times. | |
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Posted: 3/18/2007 8:46:50 PM | There is a little known medical condition that involves a blood clot in the penis that is actually a life threatening condition.
That's why when people take chemical aphrodisiacs just for kicks there is a warning to contract a doctor if they remain errect and can't loose the erection after 4 hours.
Such a condition landed my child's father in the hospital although it wasn't due to artificial stimulants -- the blood clot could have just as easily given him a heart attack.
At first the doctor said he'd never be able to become errect again let alone father a child.
It think it would pretty callous of me to have said "oh, you can't get it up anymore, then I'll be on my way". Our relationship ended 4 years later for other reasons but I would never have done that to anyone. | |
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Posted: 3/19/2007 11:52:19 AM | | I take it because it stops me from rolling out of bed . | |
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Posted: 3/21/2007 2:24:45 PM | | Frankly to me those little blue pills are not worth the risk of a heart attack and now they also discovered they cause blindness. And man with any kind of circulatory problems whether it be heart,high blood pressure,etc. should never take viagra or any of those other pills. The chance for a heart attack is too great. I remember when Viagra first came out, these older guys were dropping dead like flies. Because they didn't care if it killed them, they just wanted to be able to make love again. | |
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Posted: 3/21/2007 2:34:40 PM | After a long hiatus, (almost 2 years) I became active again. She was very attractive to me and I would not have any problem sportin' wood. Whew! But during the period between when we first started "making out" and the actual coitus, I lost it. Man did I worry about it. All kinds of thoughts raced thru my mind. In "hind sight" this was the absolute worst thing that could happen. I was thinking about it too much; Putting too much pressure on myself; thinking "was this how it was gonna be for the rest of my life"?!?
I then came to the realization that I am no longer a 20 with a "terminal" erection. and if that's what she wanted, then she'll have to look other places...
If both concenting adults are mature (and realistic) there is not a thing that can't be overcome. And since this time, I have had more "special sessions" in one night than I ever did as a 20 year old! | |
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