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 Tsorath

Joined: 5/10/2006
Msg: 51
prenups and marriages today
Posted: 6/27/2006 5:41:42 PM
No I would'nt have one nor would I sign one


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 ~LoriMac~

Joined: 3/12/2006
Msg: 52
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Posted: 6/27/2006 5:55:40 PM
I would never sign one...but i agree that people should be over 25 to get married...and some sort of license to reproduce lol
 countrydad

Joined: 12/29/2005
Msg: 53
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Posted: 7/3/2006 10:25:38 PM
Ah love and marriage is grand...but divorce is many grand....a prenup is a must for this guy next time, was blinded by the love on the first go round, she more than tripled her money in 9 years, on what I had before we met, laws are great, maybe not fair, so ya people do a prenup
 Learning2Crawl

Joined: 3/26/2007
Msg: 54
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Posted: 4/5/2007 6:36:19 PM
This lady should replace Hillary C..Pointing to all about laughs.... Too many idiots are getting married and reproducing making the rest of us pay for food stamps etc etc...Too many w/ the marriage fantasy that its all wizard of Oz crap.. ...
 Thebestbeancounter

Joined: 10/11/2006
Msg: 55
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Posted: 4/5/2007 6:41:40 PM
I'd sign a pre-nup.. I bet Paul McCartney wished he signed a pre-nup well maybe not. when you have over a billion dollars what's 250 million huh? hahaha..

I have no problem signing one, and I'd definitely bring it up if I was to get married..

People need to protect themselves because we can change for the better, and for the worse..
 MMI Girl

Joined: 7/30/2006
Msg: 56
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Posted: 4/6/2007 7:51:57 AM
I would definitely sign a pre-nup too and would expect my partner would happily agree! To me this is not about anticipating the end of the relationship right from the beginning. It is simply about having a great deal of respect for the assests (in whatever form they may be) that person in my life created BEFORE I came into the picture. As I have busted my buns to build my own security and appreciate that he has done the same, a pre-nup is simply a way of acknowledging that.

Why should I get any "credits" for work I haven't done! Marriage seems to be the only place this applies because it sure doesn't happen anywhere else. When is the last time you got paid but didn't go into work?

I believe in ONE joint account that each person puts half the household expense into and after that everything is seperate. Maintaining your own credit is really important as you are still unique individuals even in a marriage/commonlaw relationship. Hopefully you choose a mate/partner who has the same financial goals as you do and you don't leave an important discussion like this until after you move in together or get married!

Money is always a HOT TOPIC in any relationship and it surprises me how many people avoid it or even worse, ignore it all together until the first big fight about it arises. A pre-nup ensures you are well aware of how your prospective partner views the issue. If you're not comfortable with the subject matter then you've obviously got things that need to be resolved before you go any further!

A pre-nup isn't about a lack of trust to me. I simply view it as a huge sign of respect for all the hard work and thoughful planning my partner has done to create his assets. They're not mine - they're his and vice versa.
 cuteblond1

Joined: 9/1/2005
Msg: 57
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Posted: 4/6/2007 9:36:38 AM
A relatively inexpensive Pre-nup, is better than a costly divorce.

And even though you may want to end a marriage amicably, it has been my experience that for the lawyers it is all about billable hours. At the end of it, you are left feeling empty, and often in extreme financial distress. NOTE: I am saying in my experience this is not meant to be a bashing of lawyers in general.

It is interesting to me, that here in Alberta we are required to take" Parenting after Seperation "courses before a divorce can be finalized, but are not required to attend any sort of couples counseling to help with the divorce process. I know that this would be unreasonable in some cases, but some sort of a "decompression".

I endured a costly court battle with one of my exes as he became roped into the "do you know what you could get?" syndrome. Being the higher wage earner in both of my divorces, I had two ex husbands walk away with quite a nice paycheque in their hands. The second one claimed I had give him my house I owned prior to our marriage as party of my "dowry". At the end of it I was left raising two children, and a signifigantly smaller bank account.

A well written pre-nup would help avoid much of this costly process, should the two parties every decide to end their marriage.

I would not get married again without one.

CB1:
 tx_kanuck

Joined: 3/17/2007
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Posted: 4/6/2007 11:01:30 AM
Would I get one? Of course. To me it's not a matter of do I trust the person or not. When I was young, my parents put a bunch of their money in my name since a 5 yr. old has a much lower tax bracket. That money is still in my name even though it's really my parents money. To me, that is what would be covered in a pre-nup.

Would I trust my wife to not touch that money? yes.
Would I trust her lawyer? Oh, hellllllll no.
 male.1957

Joined: 2/12/2007
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Posted: 5/2/2007 6:19:09 PM
Have to have them or do not get married.
 wibbyo

Joined: 4/9/2007
Msg: 60
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Posted: 5/3/2007 8:27:33 AM
hell yea iwould get one for sure.... found out all to quickly what some women are after with their subtle comments...... i will never loose my livelyhood to a woman.. being my tools and equiptment..... prenup or hit the road jack LOL...... so consider your self warned.... half your truck eh hahaha... didnt work my a$$ off for someone else to take it on me lol.... and my tools... didnt slave my a$$ to buy those for someone to just pawn off..... lol

yup..... was a close one..... learned my lession....i know you think the same also... be hell to pay if someone takes half your music $hyte eh.... be a death in a fast way

vvvvvvvvvvvvv
 my name is matt

Joined: 6/3/2005
Msg: 61
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Posted: 5/3/2007 8:35:22 AM
^^^^^Guess you dodged a bullet there, eh, big daddy?

nice work.
 h0ldfast

Joined: 12/19/2006
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Posted: 5/3/2007 2:07:54 PM
I don't want to marry without a prenup, but I may have to if I can't find a woman who is open minded enough to consider signing one.

The whole divorce industry is designed to enrich lawyers. It's a shame that it sows distrust between potential spouses. Maybe the best thing to do is to hide the money away in complex offshore schemes to avoid getting burned during the divorce.
 daisy_66

Joined: 12/14/2006
Msg: 63
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Posted: 5/3/2007 3:16:15 PM
Although not exactly "romantic" and it sort of goes against the idea that marriage should last forever, I think if you are a certain age and worth anything, it's just common sense to ensure that what is your's remains your's in the case of divorce.
 ~LoriMac~

Joined: 3/12/2006
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Posted: 5/3/2007 3:29:48 PM
IF you get married (again) so you think prenups are important and nessicary in our society today?
No i dont think in most cases they are nessesary at all.

Do they hinder healthy relationships? Do they communicate disrespect?
No I could see why someone going on a second marriage would want one.

Are you worried about them when you're living together and approaching magic 6 months that makes you married for all intents and purposes?
I feel that not being married should be something different than legally married. Lots of relationships last 6 months. I wouldnt date someone who wasnt fair and respectful of me and the relationship...so if we broke up i would expect we leave with what we came in with if we were not married.

Would you sign one if asked?
Yes i would. If it were fair and practical i would without hesitation. I would never ask someone to sign one though

Would being asked to sign or your partner not sign be a reason to walk from the relationship?
No I think there are good reasons for them and if iam with someone who I KNEW was just trying to be smart about it i wouldnt leave.

That all being said it would take an incredibly amazing relationship for me to get married again. I think a second time around I would be smarter about the relationship, the concept of marriage and its possible end.


***wow what a difference a yr makes...I posted in june'06 that i wouldnt sign...but then again then i wouldnt have gotten married again either. ***
 limodriver66

Joined: 12/18/2006
Msg: 65
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Posted: 5/3/2007 4:10:48 PM
prenups do a couple of good things...one is that it weeds through the Gold-Diggers. And the second is that it allows for single parents to guarantee something for their kids.

I mean why would you refuse to sign if asked? Are you insecure in your abbility to make it on your own ? Do you have plans to be a mooch? You are supposed to be as one anyway in a marrige so by starting anew together you can more enjoy your accomplishments because you know you did it together. I have dated Lawyers , Doctors etc. who can't find a man that will sign one ......and I just give them my 2 cents that they were after your quality of life and not you and they are ok again .
But I see how sad they are when its parent teacher night and only they show up. If people are old enough to have sex and babies then they should be old enough to take care of them.
Only way to raise the consent age of marrige would be to ban sex till that age lol
 That is mommy2

Joined: 5/7/2007
Msg: 66
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Posted: 5/13/2007 4:02:07 AM
I would never sign one.
The issue of a prenup is insulting to a relationship in my opinion.
Its simply a way of telling your future spouse that you dont trust them to be fair if things dont work out.
Marriage, like children seem to be disposable these days. Time for people to tough it out, work together and make things work.
Divorce should only be permitted after many yrs of counselling or jail/prison term. So many times now people throw in the towel way too quickly.
 mantysingleeric

Joined: 1/6/2008
Msg: 67
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Posted: 3/9/2008 1:08:28 PM
I have to agree with her comments 100%. Warm regards.

prenups and marriages today
Posted: 4/6/2007 957 AM
I would definitely sign a pre-nup too and would expect my partner would happily agree! To me this is not about anticipating the end of the relationship right from the beginning. It is simply about having a great deal of respect for the assests (in whatever form they may be) that person in my life created BEFORE I came into the picture. As I have busted my buns to build my own security and appreciate that he has done the same, a pre-nup is simply a way of acknowledging that.

Why should I get any "credits" for work I haven't done! Marriage seems to be the only place this applies because it sure doesn't happen anywhere else. When is the last time you got paid but didn't go into work?

I believe in ONE joint account that each person puts half the household expense into and after that everything is seperate. Maintaining your own credit is really important as you are still unique individuals even in a marriage/commonlaw relationship. Hopefully you choose a mate/partner who has the same financial goals as you do and you don't leave an important discussion like this until after you move in together or get married!

Money is always a HOT TOPIC in any relationship and it surprises me how many people avoid it or even worse, ignore it all together until the first big fight about it arises. A pre-nup ensures you are well aware of how your prospective partner views the issue. If you're not comfortable with the subject matter then you've obviously got things that need to be resolved before you go any further!

A pre-nup isn't about a lack of trust to me. I simply view it as a huge sign of respect for all the hard work and thoughful planning my partner has done to create his assets. They're not mine - they're his and vice versa.
 fishin4u266

Joined: 6/29/2007
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Posted: 12/1/2008 6:39:16 PM
melbeauty and daisy66

You two are living in a fantasy world. After you have paid a lawyer $40,000 like I have, you wouldn't take a second chance. I say this everyone. If your future wife/husband is offended by a prenup, then you NEED to wait. The "anger" or "sadness" they feel about this will be pure hell when you get divorced. My ex wanted to fight over a $20 can opener. We were in mediation for an hour when I said I would give her $20 right then to stop talking about it.

People will fight over silly things. Imagine how much they will fight over real assets when it's divorce time. No one goes in expecting to get divorced, but everybody knows that you only have a 50% chance of making it and less if it's the second marriage.

Why pay the next lawyer $40,000 too?
 fishin4u266

Joined: 6/29/2007
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Posted: 12/1/2008 6:47:08 PM
Mommy2

Everybody out there watch out for this one. She has as much said that you go to jail. Why get divorced when you can just accuse him and send him to jail? Hmmmmmmmmmm
 Northern Lights

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Posted: 12/1/2008 7:02:41 PM
The way I look at it, I've worked too hard to get where I am right now, and I'll be damned if someone is entitled to half of what I worked for. Yes, I think I'd like a prenup should I ever marry again, and I'd also have no problems signing one myself.

I was married once, and when that ended, he turned into someone I never even knew! Money/assets have a funny way of turning people into total strangers. I ended up leaving that marriage with only what was mine before the marriage. I was not about to spend piles of money fighting over something that could easily be replaced. I could have totally taken him to the cleaners if I wanted to, but I just wanted out, with as little drama as possible, so that's what I did.

He sported a front license plate for years afterwards saying "I took her to the alter, she took me to the cleaners" He knew he ended up with far more then what he was 'entitled' to, yet still felt the need to be an ass about it. Whatever, it's done and he's out of my life. No regrets.

Next long term relationship I had was a common law one, but the laws regarding common law are scary too! When the relationship ended, he tried to go after half the house, which he said he paid half for.. ummm..... yeah, he paid half the mortgage payments for the year he lived there with me, but 99% of the down payment was mine. This time I fought, and I kept my house, but if he really wanted to (and was smarter) he could have very easily got 1/2 the house, even though I could prove without a doubt that the down payment was mine.

So yeah, with as screwy as our laws are, I'd definitely like one, if only to protect myself and my child from financial ruin.
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