| what is it with women
Posted: 6/26/2006 4:13:50 PM | | I just read through all the posts and I read Emon's post as well. Granted some of what she says is true, I disagree with some of it as well. A women doesn't want a push over but does want a man who can stand up for himself. Now, some of what she said is true, however moderate how often you do it. Like the ignoring thing. If you do it too often she'll think you're playing head games (which if you think about you are ) and then you might lose her anyway. Relationships are tricky and adding headgames to it doesn't help. The reality is there are just some women who are into the bad guys and it's sad. See it's a vicious circle- a guy gets burned by a girl because he treated her good, so then he decided well if i treat the next one like crap maybe she'll stay- then a good girl who might like a little spice goes for this new bad guy and bam she gets burned and it starts all over. Basically just be yourself, if you're truly a nice guy then be that nice guy, the right girl will appreciate it. Remember- this is something that happens to all genders- I know some girl that treat their man like crap and the guys keep coming back=== sometimes dating just sucks! | |
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| what is it with women
Posted: 6/26/2006 4:47:12 PM | Emon3y 
wow that was the most on the nose explanation that i have ever heard. you really explained it in a way that makes sense to me and am sure to may other guys, thanks. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 4:52:41 PM | | ^^^^^^^^^^ same reason women put us guys in the same category! | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 4:58:33 PM | Well I don't know what kind of women you hang with but your theory sucks....you treat me like shit........I'm history.....you treat me well... I treat you well......but thats only if I care about you to begin with | |
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| what is it with women
Posted: 6/26/2006 5:02:12 PM | | As long as there is makeup sex .. I am more than willing to agree to disagree as often as I can | |
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Posted: 6/26/2006 5:02:35 PM | Oh This gonna be good...
popcorn check
glass of merlot wine check
glasses on check
all systems checked..
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Posted: 6/27/2006 3:19:48 AM | itsmenkc
your so right lol but NOT every woman is like that there are some of us still left who do NOT need everything handed to us on a silver plater and expect the man to give us the world and spend all his money on us, and treat us like were the QUEEN of everything around us.
there are some good hearted women left in the world and there are some down right "wiches" who only care about a mans "wallet" (MONEY) and how he will do EVERYTHING she TELLS him to do, i've SEEN it done and i LIVED that life but i was NOT the one doing this. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 3:35:56 AM | I was just getting ready to defend women and say that not all are that way, then I read this. Wow a lot of hate to the opposite sex on this site.
It has nothing to do with hate, at least not for me, more like what I have experienced. If you respond to a man, you show you are also interested in him. If you ever call him, if you are always on time when he comes to pick you up, return calls when you say you will, ever tell him how you feel then he starts not calling when he tells you he will and starts acting like he could care less if he sees you or not.
On the other hand: Never call. Always be late when he comes to pick you up. Miss a few dates for some really lame reason, such as: I think my cat is feeling lonely, need to stay home with him tonight. No you can't come over, he doesn't like you. Never let him have a clue as to how you feel. Talk to him like he is a three year old on crack. Generaly ignore him and treat him like yesterdays garbage and then he will act like you are the most special woman that has ever lived.
That has been my experience with men. I am not saying all men are like that, but the ones I have known have been. I don't like it and feel that I am forced to play games or stay home. At present I am staying home. I have been talking to one on this site, that so far doesn't seem to be the way I described above, but only time will tell, but then I am being very reserved about the whole thing.
I think you could compare dating to cooking. If every time you cooked a meal, you burned yourself, you might not want to run out and get a job as a cook. Same with dating, get burned every time, might make you slow to date anyone, even if you are looking for that special person to spend the rest of your life with.
It would be really nice if both genders just did what they said they were going to do, and weren't afraid to show how they feel towards the other. Everything could be so easy for everyone, if everyone just stopped playing games.
As to the comments that women don't like a man that calls all the time, that does show his real feelings, and does do what he says that women will think he is desperate. I sure wouldn't, I would that he was honest and sincere. Hardly bad qualities in any person. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 3:48:43 AM | MSG #8.. My god.. Where have you been all my life..
Great post..
These things that you have said actually work.. It is balance..
I was a non-believer of treat em mean to keep them keen.. Still am really
but you have to be cruel to be kind to yourself so to speak..
the thrill of the chase is real, and it does keep them coming back, time and time again..
Sometimes it is overkill, and they never let go.. Cling-ons are there because of what you
said.. if a woman gets rejected...they wont stop thinking about it. and then they wont stop thinking about you..which makes her think....wtf?? hes not better than me...i'll show him...
Spot on Emon3y..  | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 4:36:53 AM | Let me try to figure this one out ... it is early morning here.
Okay, OP, you have a wife who treats you badly and your ex (per you) you treated badly. So you've had it both ways -- and neither satisfies. Have you ever thought of looking within to find the answer to your problem?
I read a short-story by S. Maugham, where he stated that "one loves and the other tolerates that love" -- at the time, and perhaps even now, I think that there is a lot of truth in that statement. But tolerating should NEVER mean being mean and unloving and insensitive towards your mate. How is that living? | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 5:59:38 AM | You extensive experience (wife and Ex) really qualifies you to speak on women as a whole. Oh I'm sure there was a girlfriend or mistress at some point.
However let's do the math shall we?
The current world population is approximately 6,636,820,802. Approximately half of which is women. I'll do the math so you don't have to. 3,318,410,401 women on earth today. Of those women you have dated/married/cavorted with approximately 4. Well I just had starbucks and I'm feeling generous so let's call it 10.
10 out of 3,318,410,401
Yes Freud (Mind if I call you that?) I do buy into your gross generalizations. I also saw the tooth fairy last night while talking with Santa. I was trying to line up some good christmas gifts. Talk to him early and often boys and girls. | |
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| what is it with women
Posted: 6/27/2006 6:11:15 AM | JasmineKai
You can't calculate it like this, you are understating. the formula would be more about the women he has met and been close to in his life. so a spec of string on a microbe can start looking more like a pimple on his forehead. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 6:36:49 AM | All women arent like this but your wife and your exare two prime examples.
Men are driven , mostly by a desire for comfort. ie Wealth, and security usually help towards comfort. When it's not confort its adventure.
Women are driven by thier egos. Designer gear, keeping up with the Jonses. This is why a woman will still want a house twice as big as she needs even when she can't afford to hire cleaning staff and she will have to clean it. The house is work but it's also keeeping with the Jonses.
This is why your wife is like she is. She can never keep with the Joneses no matter how hard she tries so her ego drives her on an on.
Your ex is also ego driven but the other way. When you dumped her you told her, either verbally or just by your actions, that she wasn't WORTH staying with. Her ego demands that she prove that she is worth it by gettting you back. Even if she doesn't like you any morre.
Why do you think that Loreal consmetics has based a whole advertising cmapaign on the slogan "Because youre WORTH it" Panders to the feamel ego. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 6:46:21 AM | | Simple. All women r useless unless u get urs!!!! Don't give the wrong women chances & the right women just sex!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 8:20:15 AM | Simple. All women r useless unless u get urs!!!! Don't give the wrong women chances & the right women just sex!!!!
okay I'll bite- Dragon have you ever thought that if women know you think this way they won't be interested? Are you just a guy who's got burned so much that you have nothing better than to do than bash on women and use them? See if a woman does this (which I know there are women out there just like this) then all women are the scum of the earth and should be used- HELLO- what about women who are actually nice? see the funny thing is sterotyping is nothing more than an excuse for someone to not show own insecurities- personally I'll always get mine with or without a man! Thank goodness for batteries!  | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 8:25:17 AM | msg 1.......
why dont you try dating men awhile?
or not dating at all?
it may give you a new perspective...
sounds like you need a break anyway and some time to
recover from past relationship... which will effect a new one
if you are not healed... and whole.. or at least happy with yourself and by yourself | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 8:32:06 AM | | I just wanted to thank you for your reply. I didn't originally post this to piss women off but to get some honest insight into women. For all those people that took this the wrong way I'm sorry that your so narrow minded that you couldn't grasp the concept of the question. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 8:33:25 AM | First take a look at yourself.....are you what helped create the problem? And be honest, we are the worst to criticise ourselves and want to blame others. Not saying that your wife didn't contribute as I don't know the circumstance. But the only thing we can really truely control in life is ourselves and the decisions we make. Sounds like you are hurting still so heal yourself first as this attitude you put out won't lead you into any good future relationship until you can let it go.
Once you have let that past go, and you feel good about yourself again you will find good happening for you. If you that sort of thing as with your wife developing again with someone else, you can recognise it now and deal with it accordingly like walking away before it gets you down.
Hope this helps,
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Posted: 6/27/2006 8:37:56 AM | | zentral you say try reading some books on relationship psychology. well you know what I have and I have a deree in psych. I have also done research on the subject. I had a feeling this was going to stir up a hornets nest but wanted honest responses. You know get it from the horses mouth so to say. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 8:38:34 AM | @ the OP:
You're the catch, not the woman. You set the standards. If you feel like you're being mistreated, move on. If you feel like you're giving and not receiving, stop it. Your being nice to her is something she earns by giving you respect, not something she's simply entitled to. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 9:06:51 AM | | Any guy that can act like an asshole, is an asshole. Irregardless of how "nice" you can be, only jerks treat people badly. You let someone walk all over you: you're a doormat. You act like an ass: you get drop-kicked. Least common denominator: You. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2006 9:12:50 AM | Women are attracted to strength. Giving her everything is sign of weakness. It tells her she is in command. She wants the man to take charge (but in a nice way).
For the women who are willing accept the bad treatment, treating them like crap shows strength. And they respect it.
Which proves the theory that women would rather be with a confident jerk than with a wimpy nice guy.
What they really drool over is a confident nice guy. | |
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