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Posted: 8/9/2006 12:20:59 AM |
I point and laugh at the person who cant even commit suicide on there own. call them a complete looser cant even deal with life and cant even deal with there own demise.
And there pretty rude. Leaving there remains behind for another person to clean up.
I laugh at fat farmers who are obsessed with horses. I also laugh at those who lack an understanding of the possible causes of suicide and only care about the effects. | |
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Posted: 8/9/2006 1:33:45 AM | panicdance... considering your level of articulation and the profound insight embedded within your post's I'm a bit surprised of your inability to see beyond "allnamesgones" not yet fully developed and processed thoughts ,words and emotions he's experiencing from the tragedy that has transpired in his own life. I'm sure he's gonna think even less of me than you and find my opinions on this ultra condescending but really I am speaking to you right now. I would have thought you had the ability to recognize ,decipher and translate his angry words as the cries of a deeply pained and lost soul. He is Our brother in the flock who has lost his way because his loss and despair is understandably greater than his current human abilities to cope. Everything in your response to his is clear ,logical , and correct in pointing out the ERRORS in his thinking right now. But you friend are supposed to know that this is NOT HIS WAY, not the way of our lord. I don't know , maybe your approach was that of thinking "the word" would be greater served by showing the masses reading here that Truth can be found when seeking it from the Master. But it hurt me and more importantly hurt God himself when your words turned venomous and were no longer guided by him but by your own desire to "be right" "have hand" feel superior . and in his name? .... Shame.. . .question yourself and motives brother. (quote)It doesn't surprise me that your so-called true loves have left you alone...HATE-FULL ....Kudos to the escapees! (/quote) ??? Come on man...My understanding is that one of the "escapees" is the suicide victim here.
I cant know what you think of my perspective on this. and If you feel me wrong, then there's nothing lost in reminding you what you already know..... "allnamesgone" and the like are not only the furthest thing from an enemy, a thorn in your side, or a nuisance to your beliefs, but they are those who need and seek the LIGHT most desperately of all.
Panicdance ..What I saw here today brother was a decent man make a mistake guilty only of being human . What others may have seen....I will pray for a deeper awareness in us all . Minimizing the chance of making a mistake when speaking for God. The kind that becomes validation of hypocrisy for those who are not yet saved. | |
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Posted: 8/9/2006 9:07:54 AM |
not only is it cowardly, its selfish.
you leave your family and friends behind to pick up the pieces. they're the ones who have to sort out the things in your life that you couldn't, they're the ones who have to come to terms with your problems, they're the ones who feel guilty that they couldn't prevent it, didn't see it coming or didn't manage to stop it. and they have to LIVE with that.
suicide takes all of your problems and magnfies them before spreading them around to the people around you.
a broken heart, no matter how badly broken, is not worth killing yourself over.
Guess that's great for people who have families, eh? | |
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Posted: 8/9/2006 9:23:44 AM | 667nayborofthebeast (what beast?), I bow to your superior creativity... I feel the improvenemts setting in already. And I apologize for any harm I did to the thread. My original contrabution was in earnest. I guess my solitude has taken a greater toll than I thought. I am aware of sometimes trying too hard, frogetting my "level of articulation". Although I think you did some creative editing on his details. And do not admit to being your "brother" until I know what that "other religion" is that you listed. Your over use of that term breaths out a couched malevolence in your own heart. Why did you not capitalize "Lord"?
With that I respectfully retire from this thread. Please send any further improvements to my site if your entention is as benevolent as you would present. | |
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Posted: 8/9/2006 1:42:25 PM | hi,
on 2-15-06 at 5;55 PM I LOST MY DAUGHTER TO SUICIDE ...I AM WRITING A SONG TO TRY AND PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DOING THIS TERRIBLE THING...THE SONG IS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCES WITH MY GRANDKIDS AFTER MY DAUGHTERS DEATH
WHY, MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER, WHY
GRANDDAD I JUST WANT TO TALK TO MOMMA ONE MORE TIME
LITTLE DARLIN’ LISTEN HERE
YOU CAN TALK TO HER ALL THE TIME
JUST LOOK UP TO THE HEAVENS AND SAY A PRAYER
MOMMA WILL BE THERE TO HEAR YOU
ALL THE TIME
GRANDDAD DIDN’T SHE LOVE US
MOMMA WHY DID YOU LEAVE US
WHY, MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER ,WHY
WE’RE HURTING AND WE’RE CRYIN’
ALL THE TIME
THE PAIN YOU HAD IS GONE NOW
THE PAIN WE FEEL IS FOR ALL TIME
PLEASE LORD TAKE CARE OF HER
AND MY GRANDKIDS ALL THE TIME
MOMMA WE MISS YOU
MOMMA WE NEED YOU
AND MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER WE LOVE YOU
ALL THE TIME
WHY DID YOU DO IT
WHY, MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER, WHY
YOUR GONE FROM US FOR ALL TIME
WHY, MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER, WHY
MOMMA DIDN’T YOU LOVE US
MOMMA DIDN’T YOU WANT US
WHY, MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER, WHY
GRANDDAD I JUST WANT TO TALK TO MOMMA ONE MORE TIME
THE TEARS THE HURT WELL BE WITH US
MOMMA WE MISS YOU
MOMMA WE LOVE YOU
MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER WE LOVE YOU ALL THE TIME
WHY, MY DARLIN’ DAUGHTER, WHY
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Posted: 8/9/2006 3:27:08 PM | what........you really are clueless arent you.........oh well you stay on here and pretend you know what you are talking about if it makes you feel better.......personally i dont need advice from someone who clearly doesnt know......and yes i choose to be alone.....what i didnt choose though was for my ex to lock herself in her car and gas herself.......and what the hell is self murder..........nothing wrong with my philosophy.......i dont need to be around people giving me pitty and sympathy ive learned that you only need to listen to yourself and cope in your own way.......people like you trying to give advice is a joke
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Posted: 9/9/2006 3:22:46 AM | Prreaching's the word for it allright.
And you are right. This mob is soo clueless it isn't funny.
Lets just go throught the first preachers post point by point
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Dig deep down to your soul and ask yourself if it worth giving up your life because one person is not in love with you?
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Actually it is when that one person is your child.
The one person that you have given heart and soul to. The one person that you have sweated blood fir the lst five years, to try to give a good uppringing to. The little person that you have put every last minite of your day, the peron that you have put every last cent of your wallet into. And enjoyed every minite of.
Yes That person is worth givign up your life over . Thats just the point.
I am not talking about some scaerbrained pill popping, fifteen year old drama queen, who accounts for less than 5% of total suicide numbers. I'm taking about the other 60% of all suicides. Mid aged, recently seperated fathers.
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One person out of millions? Arent the odds better that you'll find someone who will love you-or several? No one should feel the need to end their life because of one disappointment or lost love.
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Not one person out of millions.
When it's your child its THE one person out of millions.
A gf/bf can be replaced. A child can't
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I was broken hearted a few times, truly, deeply brokenhearted. Cried all the tiome and still cant talk about it. But I want to be happy and I am not going to let this bring me down. I'll take a chance on love and hope it will be better this time. But if my heart breaks again, I'll just stop, pull myself up again and get out there until I get it right, damn it!!lol NEVER resort to taking your life-its already too short and you have so much to live for. You just dont know whats waiting for you around the corner-Give it a chance! | |
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Posted: 9/9/2006 3:33:18 AM | And,
Just for those who MUST get poetic.
(This isn't mine of course.)
Her hair was up in a pony tail, her favorite dress tied with a bow.
Today was Daddy's Day at school, and she couldn't wait to go.
But her mommy tried to tell her, that she probably should stay home.
Why the kids might not understand, if she went to school alone.
But she was not afraid; she knew just what to say.
What to tell her classmates of why he wasn't there today.
But still her mother worried, for her to face this day alone.
And that was why once again, she tried to keep her daughter home.
But the little girl went to school, eager to tell them all.
About a dad she never sees a dad who never calls.
There were daddies along the wall in back, for everyone to meet.
Children squirming impatiently, anxious in their seats.
One by one the teacher called, a student from the class.
To introduce their daddy, as seconds slowly passed.
At last the teacher called her name, every child turned to stare.
Each of them was searching, for a man who wasn't there.
"Where's her daddy at?" she heard a boy call out.
"She probably doesn't have one," another student dared to shout.
And from somewhere near the back, she heard a daddy say,
"Looks like another deadbeat dad, too busy to waste his day."
The words did not offend her, as she smiled up at her Mom.
And looked back at her teacher, who told her to go on.
And with hands behind her back, slowly she began to speak.
And out from the mouth of a child, came words incredibly unique.
"My Daddy couldn't be here, because he lives so far away.
But I know he wishes he could be, since this is such a special day.
And though you cannot meet him, I wanted you to know.
All about my daddy, and how much he loves me so.
He loved to tell me stories he taught me to ride my bike.
He surprised me with red roses, and taught me to fly a kite.
We used to share fudge sundaes, and ice cream in a cone.
And though you cannot see him, I'm not standing here alone.
"Cause my daddy's always with me, even though we are apart.
I know because he told me, he'll forever be in my heart"
With that, her little hand reached up, and lay across her chest.
Feeling her own heartbeat, beneath her favorite dress.
And from somewhere in the crowd of dads, her mother stood in tears.
Proudly watching her daughter, who was wise beyond her years.
For she stood up for the love of a man not in her life.
Doing what was best for her, doing what was right.
And when she dropped her hand back down, staring straight into the crowd.
She finished with a voice so soft, but its message clear and loud.
"I love my daddy very much, he's my shining star.
And if he could, he'd be here, but heaven's just too far.
But sometimes when I close my eyes, it's like he never went away."
And then she closed her eyes, and saw him there that day.
And to her mother's amazement, she witnessed with surprise.
A room full of daddies and children, all starting to close their eyes.
Who knows what they saw before them, who knows what they felt inside.
Perhaps for merely a second, they saw him at her side.
"I know you're with me Daddy," to the silence she called out.
And what happened next made believers, of those once filled with doubt.
Not one in that room could explain it, for each of their eyes had been closed.
But there on the desk beside her, was a fragrant long-stemmed red rose.
And a child was blessed, if only for a moment, by the love of her shining bright star.
And given the gift of believing, that heaven is never too far.
"Daddy's Day" has been published in the book
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Posted: 9/9/2006 3:41:38 AM | There are two kinds of suicide attempts - those that are commited to leaving this world and those that are screaming for help.
It takes a vast amount of courage to get it right. Those that leave a mess behind are generally those who didn't mean to leave this world - or those that made an instant decision.
Sometimes someone realises that there is nothing left to live for and that remaining in this world is actually not benefitting anyone - not even themselves.
It is not an easy decision to make, but sometimes the only answer. | |
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Posted: 9/9/2006 4:46:49 AM | | Suicide is painless acording to the MASH theam song! Personally I'd kill somone before ending my life! | |
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Posted: 9/9/2006 5:10:36 AM | | Well for a start have a heart for those that have lost someone to suicide.Sometime people dont have the choices that we have,whether through illness,as in mental illness.I see it everyday where i work.It not being selfish or thoughtless,its being troubled,tormented and in so much conflict that its the only way out.Or voices constantly telling them to take their life..I agree some people chose this way out of selfishness i.e the father who doesnt get the access to the kids he wants,so he kills himself and the kids with him.But most suicides are for different reasons,in fact most suicides are for mental health issues.My heart goes out to you who have lost though this terrible illness.I lost a son recently through cancer,and i can only say your pain must be worse than mine,because i have a answer.But we share the same as in there was nothing we could have done to stop this happening.Yet still we blame. | |
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Posted: 9/9/2006 5:21:38 AM | My husband suffered with severe depression and committed suicide. His motives weren't entirely selfish but he devastated the lives of me and my daughters.
You must think about your loved ones and the effect on thier lives.
If you would like to talk you can contact me on the site
Sue | |
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Posted: 9/9/2006 6:00:31 AM | | I had a friend in highschool who killed himself. In the end it was over a girl..but it wasn't really the "one thing" - his whole life was a mess, and on the outside, he worked his ass off to make everyone think he was "perfect" - his rich family, his nice clothes, etc...what very few saw was that his parents hated each other, there was violence in the home, and he was hurting so badly. Suicide is never about one thing - it goes so much deeper. I just wish he had turned to his friends, and trusted we would still be there knowing the "real" him. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 3:52:23 AM | | yes Grace so true,and i wish people would comment on subjects they know nothing about.Opinions are ok,but please consider those who have gone through this terrible tradgedy.Suicide is not about selfishness,but desperation,feeling unworthy,tormented and much more.I have worked in this field for 20yrs,so i do know what im saying.FOR 1 suicide there will be many many reasons behind it,and selfish is way down on the list. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2006 6:20:39 AM | In fact over 50% of ALL suicides in the western world are mid aged men sufferign post divorce trauma. The reasons are a comination of the following in order of importance
1/ Grief at the loss of the children. The loss of custody and access is even worse than the death of the children. The children are the living dead. Still alive but not a part of his life
2/ Facing jail. Many of these men are battered husbands with scarsto show for it. But the wife, with not a park on her, has filed formal charges of wife bashing withthe police and the police have to follow up.
3/ Lack of help. NO counselling servies exist for such men. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2006 1:36:19 PM | The only things worth dying for are your kids, family, and the partner you're still with!
I would never kill myself for someone that doesn't love me anymore! Then I'd never have the chance to meet someone I would die for! | |
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Posted: 10/27/2006 1:49:18 PM | | Life is full of pain...without pain there is no pleasure and only stasis. But I just wanted to speak to the postings stsating that a person feeling suicidal is not rational. There are situations where only someone irrational would not weigh and consider the suicide option. Until you have been in one of those situations, do not judge. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2006 2:09:09 PM | Suicide is not a coward's way out. As anyone who has ever tried it knows, it can be utterly terrifying and it is only by virtue of the fact that i was frightened of the actual process of dying (e.g. not being able to breath, being asthmatic I knew how horrible that was, being in excrutiating pain, causing pemanent brain damage if i didn't quite pull it off etc.) that I am here today. For years if i could have pressed a button to either: 'Opt in' or 'Opt out' I would have cheerfully opted out. I used to maintain - and really believed that given a choice if someone was asked whether they would choose to be born or not, most would choose not to have been. I'm not sure I believe that anymore. In fact, no, I think most people are glad to be alive. And anyway, NOW, I am really happy to be alive.
I am just questioning how selfish it really is. I'm not entirely sure. If you have no family or friends because they either don't exist or you have completely cut yourself off, or they genuinely don't give a stuff, who exactly is going to miss you anyway? So why is it being selfish? if you have loved ones or children, suicide shouldn't really be an option because it does seem totally selfish: but who in that position, as previously stated, can think rationally anyway?
I read recently that one school of thought maintained that it was a demonstration of egomania: considering yourself to be so important that the act of removing yourself would have a cataclysmic impact or effect on the world or at least those around you. That made me think that perhaps we place too much importance on our lives: this is fundamentally different from valuing life itself. Perhaps we are far more dispensible than we think. It's just a thought....
Here's another one. Think of your distant relatives. Go back a few generations. What do you know of them. How significant were they really. Just a few out of billions and billions. After a couple of generations you are pretty much forgotten anyway so why all the fuss?
Only close family and a few friends are bothered if you go, so what's all the fuss about? It is selfish to hurt those who love and/or need you. That's a fact, but the person killing themselves is not responsible and should not be held accountable for their actions. And there's the rub.
We are all going to die eventually only the date is different.
The next bit has nothing to do with self pity it is just what happened and I think it is of some relevance:
My brother topped himself a couple of years ago (carbon monoxide poisoning in his car). I cried and despaired everyday for about a year and then i just hurt for a while longer and now i feel nothing. Most of the time I feel nothing in relation to his death or anyone's death. I have suffered so many losses of close loved ones that I have become almost totally immune, just like people in the war used to; you reach a cut off point and presto! no more pain (if you are lucky).
My partner died of cancer last year. I stood by him. Did everything in my power to love and care for him. He died as he wished at home, with me, and our two young children. Now i feel a bit aggrieved about it because at the time it was excrutiating for all of us. I would not have elected to put my family through that if i was terminally ill and I would refuse treatment because it just prolongs other people's anticipation of one's death and for the sake of a few more agonising months, what's the point? Is refusal to have treatment a similar thing to suicide? Why do people who are inevitably going to die cling so desperately to life when they never even tried to live in the first place? My partner was a workaholic who never had a holiday, never left his desk, the computer screen, never treated himself to anything nice, just turned the coroporate cogs, worked 14 hours a day every day and came home exhausted....what a complete and utter waste of a life. I always had an accute sense of what a waste it was even before I knew he was dying. I appealed to him to do something worthwhile just for himself, just for once, but he never did.
If you've got life live it, if it is unendurable change it, but don' t drag everyone else around you down. Now that Is selfish...and utterly simplistic of me to make such a crass statement but there may be some foundation in it somewhere.
As for killing yourself over a loved one. My first love brought a girl back to our flat and told me to stay out of the way. i was 16, he was 22. I was devastated. I tried to slash my wrists. It hurt. Alot. If only i had known how helpful alcohol was in such situations...oh well....i couldn't do it because it hurt too much, but i guarantee you i wanted to die for a long time afterwards, years in fact. IS NOT WANTING TO LIVE THE SAME AS ACTIVELY WANTING TO DIE? Answer: No. The former is a passive desire; whereas the deliberate contemplation and visualisation of taking your own life....is nearer the reality of being suicidal. I found thinking about killing myself strangely calming at times when i was at my lowest. I was full of self pity in those days. i couldn't stop crying about my misfortune. I was just reacting to circumstances. It was actually a pretty reasoned response. Do you know how I got through this one? Pills, anything i could lay my hands on, I pretty much self medicated, I know that was risky but i swung it, i could just about function but i was wrapped up in cotton wool for months and months. Coming off the pills was another battle but so what? Now I believe that there is truly nothing I cannot handle, even if i did handle losing my partner pretty badly, I still got through it. Now i have stopped crying. Eventually everyone stops crying, but it's kind of the best thing you can do at the time. That and talk alot but don't listen too much because only you know what is best for you: you already have the answers that are right for you within yourself.
Would I consider suicide ever again, particularly over the loss of a loved one, well, I did before, twice, but i think i will sit tight and make sure my kids don't have to suffer unnecessarily - that is my rational response, in distress, an impulse to drive off a cliff and it can all be over in a flash, no-one can really anticipate how they are going to react to particular circumstances.
A final word: please don't cringe. Childhood. Secure and loved children cope far better with stress in later life and are far less likely to harm themselves than those who have been neglected, abused or mistreated. It doesn't matter what their circumstances are, however dreadful, if they know they are consistently loved, never alone, totally secure inside, there will be nothing they cannot cope with in later life.
Invest time in your children. Equip them for later on.
(Will I be brave enough to post this? yes, because although some people will upset me with their contemptuous and blinkered outlooks and remarks - others may be able to identify with or relate to something, i will get over the derision and soon forget about it as I always conveniently do.) The trick is to focus on the good people in this world, not the sh**heads. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2006 2:15:04 PM | | thank you so much ?for doing what you are doing,i found you by chance , ,i have a son i worry about , he has no perpose in life as i know how he thinks?hes had everything and has nothing .dosnt seem to have any feelings ,but i know he does and must be hurting so much it breaks my heart.have to go emmotional ,hope i can talk more later and may be get advice.god bless ann | |
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Posted: 10/27/2006 2:36:25 PM | Pema Chodron has a saying that when our hearts are broken, they are broken open.
It is when we are vulnerable that the Light can get in. It gets in through the cracks. So like many truths it is a paradox. We feel so weak, uncertain full of doubt. But we have this opportunity that can only come in this way at this time. It is a chance for growth.
We need to grow, evolve in the way that is meant for us on this Path. So to incarnate on this plane is an honour, a gift. We have the chance to make the important choices based on the priorities we have.
We think people who are angry are strong, but the anger is often based on fear. And the certainty and confidence we so admire is often just ego.
One reason suicide is not the answer is because the Work you gotta do YOU gotta do. There is no ghost in the afterlife going to do it for you. If we don't learn the lesson, don't worry, we will get the chance to learn it again. Ending existence here doesn't mean we wont have to face it ever again.
There is great wisdom in the concept of 'No Escape'.
Here is something we need to learn - our well being, happiness, etc. cannot come from anything or anyone outside ourselves. We cannot get 'IT' from anyone.
This is why so many keep getting burned in relationships.
They are looking for what is real in the wrong place, expecting to find it in someone else.
If we get quiet and go within - within is where it is at. If we could be totally honest, we would know we are choosing toxic relationships to learn these things.
When we know the true Joy comes from the Source within, we will never fear getting hurt in relationships again, and we won't be hurting others either. So we give up the desperate searching and longing. We let it all go. We are sure in ourselves, and there is a knowing that no one can take it away, because it did not come from outside ourselves.
And it is only then, can we offer Love in a real way, because Loving becomes who we are, it's not neurotic deal making anymore. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2006 6:09:22 PM | | Suicide has nothing to do with cowardice or anything of the sort. Suicide is something that is personal to every individual who considers it. It is something that comes over you that one cannot control. You do not think rationally when your on the suicide ride. So, for someone to say it's the cowards way out is indeed someone that has no idea what he's talking about. If one has no idea, then they might try helping instead of name calling. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2006 1:28:48 PM | I totally agree with you angelkist, suicide is NEVER an answer to any problems that occur through life's short cycles. No one, when they are born, is given a roadmap or instruction manual to what life is going to bring them. Life is a quest to define who you are on the inside and who you will become to those around you. It's about taking all the little setbacks that we each feel from breakups, losing friends, losing family, or even a job, and making the stronger comebacks that define who we are.
We all have choices that we all make daily, and I guarantee that everyone has been told at some point in thier life to " Be yourself", but I always tell people, who ask for my advice, to
" be the person you want to be". There are so many ways to improve yourself (i.e. college, fitness centers, diet centers) that commiting suicide is just dumb. Lets face it, why would anyone want to give that much power over themselves to anyone? Life is about learning about ourselves and each other. So if you ever lose someone, don't think of it as a lose, think of it as a chance to find a better companion to compliment the new you. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2006 6:52:53 PM | | There have been many, many times when I have thought of suicide. Most of the time it's because I am alone and feel no one would care if I was dead. I haven't had a woman in my life for almost two years now, and any girl I did meet didn't want me because I either don't make enough money, don't drive or for some other reason. Many times I'm not given a reason why I'm acceptable to them, so I haven't bothered to look for anyone anymore. Because I also suffer from depression, suicide isn't all that far from my thought, even on a good day. I even have a hard time just trying to find a reason to get out of bed in the morning, about the only one I've found is to go to the bathroom. So, people may say they care, and give you platitudes about not killing yourself, but, as the saying goes, "the proof is in the pudding". I have a hard time trusting a woman who is in a relationship with me. I have been dumped by girlfriends for both younger guys and co-workers with them saying "can we just be friends". So for a person to say to me that they care, they need to prove it to me first. I have been told that for many years, and haven't found much truth in their statements. Also, since I have started using these sites, to just find some friends, I have been hit on by girls who are only looking for a way to get out of the country they are living in. I don't know if any of the women in my area have even bothered to at least try and contact me, since almost all of these dating sites require you to pay a monthly fee for you to even get any emails they may have sent to you. I don't know, maybe be it's me. Maybe I'm too old and ugly for any woman to want me. | |
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Posted: 10/30/2006 9:00:20 AM | IS IT JUST ME? I READ ALL THE POSTS AND REALISED EVERYONE KIND OF GOT OFF PIRATE MOLLYS POST TO DELVE INTO THEIR OWN THOUGHTS.
MY QUESTION IS DID ANYONE NOTICE THE VERY LAST POST BY PIRATEMOLLY? IT MADE ME SAD AND FEARFUL FOR HER WELLBEING. | |
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Posted: 2/28/2007 8:32:52 PM | Sparticuss, and others reading: My best friend of childhood, and I am 55 tired sucide 2x in 5 days Christmas of 01. When we talk, and we have.... talked.. She says the black hole is so deep, you can not get out. She kept telling me, you do not understand.. no one does... The act of sucide is not voluntary. You are just too deep in the black hole to even reach out. I have come to understand what she is saying...
Hence, It is NOT our fault when someone does this act. When they do this, they mean it! They canNot feel the pain of others or what it would be when we are gone. The hole has them. I called it the Devil. The way she described it, I said, that sounded demonic.
When you notice someone who might seem depressed, ask them. Tell them you understand depression. (She told me a lot of ppl do not understand depression and judge - that's why she did not discuss anything with anyone, and esp at her office.) Let them know you feel their pain, so they will open up to talk to you. You can tell if someone does not look you in the eye and you have known them for years. Just keep your eyes and ears open.. Ears, because a depressed persons voice is slower and duller than most times.
I am so thankful she lived. She has told wonderful stories of what the other side is about. She said it was.. no words to describe. Calming.... She has changed so much. Become much more humble, and appreciative of lifes offerings. She knows God has a plan for her to have her survive 2 attempts. The reason for the 2nd attempt, the psy dr at the hospital in Ga, told her family she did this for attention, Take her home, drop her off, and do not give in to any attention. I can see why she did the 2nd one... Hell if someone dropped me off after trying to commit suicide and tell you to get out, and go take a bath to relax, I would feel MORE alone.
Hope this gives you all an insight into the black hole, and how most suicide's are not voluntary. | |
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