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Posted: 3/1/2007 9:23:42 PM | | I agree about suicide being selfish and not a good idea. I know 1 person who killed herself. It was over 10 years ago now, but it still is fresh in my mind. There were rumors on why she killed herself, but to this day, no one can say for sure as to why she did it. But she left behind alot of friends and family that will forever miss her like crazy. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2007 9:43:53 PM | long story short
my ex-girlfriend killed herself because i wouldn't get back together with her
not something i wish anybody to go through
good luck to anyone who does | |
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Posted: 3/1/2007 9:49:58 PM | | long time solution for a short term problem. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 4:09:08 AM | i had a son in law who killed himself two months after my mother passed away about 5 years ago. what it did to my daughter and grandchildren can not be described in just a few words.
i would love to have him back so i could kill him myself. not really, but i feel like it sometimes. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 11:37:44 AM | One of my brothers committed suicide when he was 13. I wish I could smack all the people who heard that and would go on about how "selfish" they thought it was - even if you think that, why would you say it to a grieving person?!? Rude, much?
Over the years, I've come to think of him as a very, very hurt soul - more fragile than any of us knew. I think that he planned it, in the way kids that age "plan" their futures, but I don't think he really understood the consequences of his actions, who does at 13? I think that life just got to be too much for him - and because he was much younger than me, living in another state, and I was raising children of my own, I had no idea how bad things were for him. I wish he'd been able to talk to me or anyone else about what he was going through, and found some love and support. But I can't change that now - I can only go forward and love the people who are left behind.
I wouldn't do it over a lover, but there is one possible exception: if I lost my children somehow. And I won't even think about that.
Edited to add: It was only after my brother's suicide that I learned of our family history, which includes several suicides among the men. Another brother died of an overdose at 20, and a cousin committed suicide while on steroids at 29. Later I found out about two other cousins and my great-grandfather, who I never met, dying in ways that couldn't be proven to be suicide - but sure do look like it. I can't help but feel like the secrecy aroung their deaths that was necessary to preserve a "normal" facade actually contributed to their deaths - maybe if we'd known, we could have sought out help.
And to everyone who has lost someone they love - I'm so very sorry. Sending you comfort and healing.... | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 12:23:08 PM | I am really sorry for everyone who has lost someone to suicide. I have lost a few myself.
That said, killing yourself over a break up? Come on!!!
Yeah, break ups are awful. On occasion, almost unbearable. The thought of your ex being in the arms of somebody else hurts like nothing else. But it is not worth taking your life over! Get help! Talk it out! If you think you are suffering depression, see a doctor. Take a pill. Stop listening to those old Nirvana CDs!
This is your life we are talking about. How many times did you think you would never love again. Then you went to a party and met her. Or him. And something stirred inside you. That feeling of euphoria you experienced was your heart fighting back. Maybe that one didn't work out either. Or maybe it did. But at least you knew you wanted to love again. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 12:35:53 PM | whatevers goin on in your headnobody can hear it....that INCLUDES your Mom and family..
THE RESPONSIBILITY TO OVERCOME WHAT LIFE DEALS OUT lies with the individual...that means you gal....there is help available for this...notice you attending therapy...you show therapist respect? bet you do...
you arent dumb;the way you write is good+clear and you know stuff..
how about about cutting your Mom some slack to start with? hope by now youve apologised to her...she dont deserve that stuff....hell shes feedin ya..!bet she loves you too....
Cmon pirate Molly you can do it....Hope you OK today....its the first day of the rest of your life...make it good eh? | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 1:11:45 PM | The only reason that I would consider suicide is in the case of a incurable disease and then only after the pain got so bad that it could not be controlled.
Commit suicide because of someone else Ha not a chance I have way too many people to make miserable.(jk)
Committing suicide is with the exception already outlined is selfish and cowardly. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 1:38:49 PM | | it takes bravery to kill yourself. its really not easy. and you need to feel extremely sad to do it . i wish all the love there is to those of us who feel so sad in their heart. god bless you all i hope youve gone somewhere nice. to stay alive is not to breath or feel, its to feel good inside yourself, love is a great way to feel good, we can give love with or without receiving it and this gives us joy and the will to live. life can be a very heavy load to carry, dont feel bad if you feel like this, try to find something you can enjoy doing and you should feel ok again. we are all leaves on the wind xxxxxx | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 2:19:01 PM | | i've never tried to commit suicide just because of one person but because of a series of events that have been out of my control that together must mean that i am one of the most unluckiest ba-stards there is that walks the planet...sometimes even now i still have a hard time dealing with it but when ever ive tried suicide, i've always been found or something has happened to prevent it, maybe im not doing it right although i know thats not true or maybe im being punished and this is part of my own private hell...that ensures that i am punished for the bad things i have done in the past... | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 4:07:12 PM | | please never ever do this! because of the heartbreak it brings to one's family. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2007 10:04:26 PM | Ive never wanted to kill myself over a guy.
But I did try when I had to leave my daughter behind.Sometimes the emotional pain is so bad it feels like its physical pain.And no matter what you do or say its so bad you cant breath right,sleep,eat,function in any way shape or form.
BUT.....it does go away.And I thank god I have such a high tolerance to medication,or I wouldnt be here.And I believe that if I had,my daughter would have had to experiance the pain I was trying to escape from,for the rest of her life.And that would have been selfish on my part.
And instead of only seeing her every few months......I would have never seen her again.
Seems kinda dumb to me now. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 11:35:19 AM | What if NO ONE has ever loved you? And no one ever will?
Does it change things then? | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 3:50:32 PM | ok how about this one commiting suicide because no-one will love you or even give you a chance
hell cant be much worse than this | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 10:48:22 PM | Suicide is a very weak and selfish way to go. I once dated someone for a very short time whom had some serious issues that I was unaware about and wern't confirmed but I had my suspicions. I quickly left that situation and 3 months later I had found out that he had committed suicide. The effect that had on his family and friends including myself are endless. There are much better ways like seeing a therapist (nothing wrong with it and which to be here and a soul, embrace it and try to see the positive side of things whenever there is an issue. Try to surround yourself with positive energy at all times and get rid of the negative stuff that may be in your life. I hope this help will make a difference in what you are going through.
Take Care
Happy Spirit Munchkin30 | |
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Posted: 3/3/2007 10:51:30 PM | Suicide is a very weak and selfish way to go. I once dated someone for a very short time whom had some serious issues that I was unaware about and wern't confirmed but I had my suspicions. I quickly left that situation and 3 months later I had found out that he had committed suicide. The effect that had on his family and friends including myself are endless. There are much better ways like seeing a therapist (nothing wrong with it ). God gave you life and a soul, embrace it and try to see the positive side of things whenever there is an issue. Try to surround yourself with positive energy at all times and get rid of the negative stuff that may be in your life. I hope this help will make a difference in what people think about "suicide" and maybe change peoples outlook a little.
Take Care
Happy Spirit Munchkin30 | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 12:35:56 AM | | thanks makes me want to do it even more | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 2:59:02 AM | mctowelie,
Have you made any plans to kill yourself? Have you tried calling your local crisis line first? Part of you must want to live, because you wrote about your desire to kill yourself. It looks like a cry for help to me.
I once wanted to kill myself, 20 years ago when I was around your age. I had no friends other than those who saw me as a charity case or someone to pitty. I grew up around alcohol, chaos, and a lot of anger. As a child, I was abused in different ways starting from the age of 4, then told it was all my fault when I looked for help. I was also the scapegoat of the family and my parents took out their anger and frustrations out on me, as did the bullies at school and the weirdos of the neighbourhood I lived in, which was a slum. (A lot of drugs, houses with no plumbing, no lawns, a lot of broken down-cars, miserable kids, unemployed drunks.) I was molded into how others wanted me to be but not who I was or what I wanted as a human being.
Fortunately, I found counselling first before I seriously attempted to commit suicide. I no longer live in that town, have much to do with my relatives or the friends who didn't repsect me. I run my own business, I've had many dates, I have a lot of nice "toys" (My 4x4 being one of them) to play with, and I have some extremely supportive friends, a few of whom have gone through similar things I have when they were children.
Long after all that unhappiness, I volunteered on the local crisis line, and all volunteers had binders that listed all the resources in the community and how to access them. If there isn't a crisis line listed in your phone book, phone the operator and get connected to the nearest one.
Don't give up, the best is yet to come.
Been there, haven't done that,
Ms Adventure | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 5:02:42 AM | I have had a few rough rides in my life where everything looked like it was against me, especially in my separation and divorce, big legal battle, I practically lost everything, the only thing I did not lose was willingness to keep plunging ahead in life, today when I look back and see the misery my ex created for herself by her relentless pursuit of trying to destroy me financially by taking it to the max after our separation, and using the legal system to do the job, I just sit back and wonder now how I made it through all that, I must admit that I had suicide in my thoughts a couple of times but that was quickly removed, all I think about that was what a turmoil that would make for the rest of my family and friends. most importantly my SON, what would he think of his dad, if the role was reversed I would think, what a cheapskate, coward, selfish most despicable act you can do. I might sound harsh but recently 2 people I know committed suicide, and it is the people they leave behind that are left wondering what could I have done to help this poor soul, one of these individuals worked for my dad when he was a teen, and even came over to me last fall to talk, he needed some work, and then he poped the big question, he asks me, (he is going through a separation) what did you do in your situation to piss of your ex, My reply was basically, John, Don't do that, think of your kids and yourself, it just isn't worth it, you will just add extra misery for yourself, in a year or two you laugh at all the crap you are going through, just don't do it, what does he do last Christmas, gets drunk, goes to his ex's place, smashes her car with a sledge hammer, backs into her car with his truck and then gets charged for impaired driving when he flees, what a coward, what do his kids think of him now, than a couple weeks ago he terminates his life in one of the most gastly ways I have ever heard of.
I shake my head and think wow, what was he thinking, can anyone rationalize with someone that prefers death over life, even overseas all these terrorists, suicide bombers and stuff, just plain crazy, that is my view. It might be hard sometimes but get tough and positive and let your imagination run wild in the positive sense and you will see what life has to offer........ | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 5:19:46 AM | But it just hurts sooossssssssssssooo much!
Why does loving/caring have to hurt like that!
If people were smart they would all put up walls to protect themselves!
Maybe that is just what I will do! | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 11:48:36 AM | Suicide is a very weak and selfish way to go.
It wouldn't be selfish if you didn't have anyone to care... Right now I wouldn't do it cause I have my parents. But if something ever happened to them(I hope not--I dont think I could live without them. They're all I have) I can't say that I wouldn't...there would be no one left to care then. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2007 11:50:47 AM |
If people were smart they would all put up walls to protect themselves!
I think I've been hurt so much that that's what I do now...I try not to let myself care too much for anyone anymore because you can't depend on other people. No expectations, no disappointments. | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 1:18:59 PM |
Suicide is a very weak and selfish way to go. And this is a very shallow and misinformed point of view. Honestly, why would you say something like this? Do you think that it in any way comforts those who have lost someone to suicide, or helps those contemplating it? | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 1:33:38 PM | Man; at the risk of starting a new thread and having it deleted, I'm just adding here.
I just got a call from my daughter; seems my neighbor boy hung himself; he was 20-ish, and a good kid, from what I could see. He had no parents to speak of, was a "foster child" (something I can relate to)had a little job at the Family Dollar and a fat girlfriend that he seemed to be "happy" with. (I say that cause they looked like Jack Sprat and his wife;Hispanic guys seem to like big white women for some reason)
I can't get my brain around it. Now his best friend (my daughter's friend's brother) is devastated. I don't know what to do for him. He's sad cause his best friend is gone, and I don't know what to do. Neither do his sisters, or his mom. What a mess. Why didn't we see it coming?
I am just mystified.
sleep well, Tony; for you, at least, the hard part is over.
Fry | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 1:38:37 PM | | I agree with you,,,such insensitive remarks area shame on those who posted them,,,what the person who EVEN has any thoughts of suicide needs professional help,,,,be they valid thoughts or invalid thoughts,,,both show signs of needed attention and are self distructive in nature,,,I would remend that such person having such thoughts or those who read and agreed call the nearest help line,,,thats what I would have done ( former law enforcement)coming accross ANYONE having such thoughts,,,be they valid or not,,,such help is there for them,,,certianly bring thier issue here will not help them in anyway. Anyone even reading that posting who feel the same way,,,needs to call someone,,,,,that person is a simple human being in trouble,,,not some clown who only posts the teenage junk,,,,, | |
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