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Posted: 3/5/2007 2:42:31 PM | People who commit sucuide are normally feeling very down and lonely. They don,t need judgement from others, what they do need is love and support, someone to listen to them
be their for them, and that costs nothing, They are in a state of severe depression, often they have been hurt by someone and are inclined to concentrate on their worries too much and those who have hurt them and not those who love and care for them. They are intentionally be selfish or anything its the depression taking over. Listening to someone problems is a way of showing love and care and everyone needs that. It also helps the other person look at problems objectively, and shows you care and this all aids recovery.
The person may have had an accumlation of problems over the years and the end of the relationship may just be a trigger that ignites the depression.
I don,t think anyone should judge anyone until they really know what a person has been through in life. Being judgemental helps no one being a good listener and friend does. | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 2:50:11 PM | | suiside...... been there tried that but always got caught by either my mother or what have you. i am what most people call a cutter,,,, however, i was not one of these attention seekers or what have you i was and still embarassed of my cuts and scars but i havent done it in a long time now and I think the only reason for this is because i finally started to share with people what i was feeling,,,,, i know what you are thinking..."i cant do that i dont want people to think i am crazy......" i felt the same way. I pride myself on being a strong person and for me crying and telling people my feelings was unheard of, my brother always tried to teach me that crying is for the weak and i would NOT be weak, but sometimes you just need to let loose and go ape shit and cry. my brother pased away 2 years ago and then i found the "love of my life" we had known eachother for years and became a couple we were together for 10 months but in that short time we had moved in together after only 5 months anyway things ended badly and i was in my lowest of lows when he called the police aand said he had caught me trying to cut the tires on our truck (he as lying) and he had me arrested on the anniversary of my brothers death, i got out of jail then he followed me everywhere i went, tried running me off the road etc. being completely insane he would sit outside my house for hours at a time in the middle of the night and it would kill me inside you know?? he tried to have me beat up and all that and all i could think was "damn was i really that horrible to him?" and it killed me inside because i never knew i could care about someone as much as i cared about him. i moved 3 states away left my truck there got new vehicles and everything and he still tries to hurt the people i care most about,, (he ran my mother off the road a few days ago), so i sat here and really thought about it and i realized......... im not the one who is horrible HE is, i thought about cutting because it takes the pain that you cant controll and makes it physical pain that you can controll but i didnt so if you have thoughts about killing yourself you need to take a min. and think about it .... not who it will hurt but think about yourself evaluate the situation, talk to someone you trust then decide but i think if i made it through what i made it through this past year anyone can i lost my brother, a lover/best friend, my father and my home.... I know that life is tooooooo short to waste it on being sad or angry and it will be over before you know it so jut think. | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 3:25:25 PM | Okay. Once upon a time in my early 20’s in a valley and time far, far away I went and off’d myself over a messed up relationship.
Yup DOA...
But they brought me back.
Because they were able to bring me back I’ve discovered since that time that it was by far the worst relationship of my entire life.
Things have gotten way better in my life since then including that I’ve been clean for over 10 years now. I’ve had lots of relationships since that time and have touched and been touched by many people in many ways. Ways that I would not have wanted to miss.
I hope that someone out there will find my experience helpful.
~love~ | |
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AB2
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Joined: 2/26/2007
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| Suicide??!!
Posted: 3/5/2007 3:40:13 PM | Its a new day got it pretty much on the spot.
Dj48060 you have some good points,but for the most part are wrong.People that need that love and support look for it everywhere,they will even turn up a rock for it.So by them coming here it could help a great deal finding people that care for them and show support.I seriously doubt your going to find negative and discouraging remarks in a thread like this.If they are posted the person is full of shit and just joking.If everyone was treated with love and kindness and didn't have to go threw so many traumatic experiences there wouldn't be a whole lot of feeling so down and worthless.The only attention someone gets from talking about or attempting suicide is because its a cry for help.They are stuck between wanting to kill there self and not wanting to,thats why they make that cry for help because they are in the middle of the choice.Half of them wants to die,and the second half wants to be alive.The part that wants to be alive knows once you take your own life its over.There ain't no coming back.But when the person really wants to kill their self,they arnt going to ask for help,most of the time they wont tell anyone.they just carry it out.Why tell someone if they have there mind set to do it and and feel like there is no way to be helped at all?Most of the time they are not going to say a word and try to take there life.The ones that are coming here are looking for a number of things guidance,love,support,to be cared about,to feel like they arnt alone,to find an answer a solution to the problem.
So don't be so negative and mean towards them.
We all need lots of 
No matter what sex,color,where your from,if your gay or not,poor rich,everyone and anyone needs love and positive support | |
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Posted: 3/5/2007 6:00:33 PM | | i am sure we have all had our shares of hurt. i have never considered suicide just cuz my heart was broken. suicide means giving up. giving up all hope. hope is the only thing that keeps me going. hope that tomorrow will be better than today. hope that i will find my waldo in a world of waldo look alikes. as long as i have a glimmer of hope my life is worth every pain it has to go through to be able to appreciate the good. i refuse to let go of that glimmer of hope. believe me there have been times when i felt it slip. its hard to hold on when all you feel is pain, but i manage to keep a grip. the pain doesn't last forever. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 9:17:49 AM | | Word. Just like that government job that always seems to be around the corner... | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 1:20:03 PM | | could you send me the explaination please sorry i dont get it | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 2:28:00 PM | | Right on, truly27. Life is worth living. Break ups are hard. In life we will have our hearts broken and break other hearts, too. You can't change that. But there is no justification in hurting everyone around you just because you hurt yourself. Pick up the pieces, maybe listen to Coldplay, and go out and find your Waldo. Or Wanda. | |
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Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 109 | |
| Suicide??!!
Posted: 3/6/2007 4:58:53 PM | I am amazed how many heartless people there on in here.I almost would have to believe that they were born in a test tube.I had a brother who commited suicide last year.There is not a day that goes by that i don't think of him.I am not angry at him.I don't think he was selfish.He was down.In pain.When he died a part of us died also.
They say there is a lesson to be learned from everything.I learned that people don't advertise their troubles.How many people do you walk by in a day that have a sticker on their shirt or blouse saying they have cancer?or some other illness? It pays to be emphatic toward people.
Second it just reaffirmed my conviction never to give up.I seen how much pain it gave to other people.If times are tough there is always a window somewhere.Find somebody to help you get through that window.Its there. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 5:13:11 PM | Pain is temporary. I like myself to much. And i have people i love and they love me to much to ever consider doing anything so selfish. Get profesional help. God bless all. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 5:31:14 PM | I thought about it during my last break up cos it hurt soo much, he cheated on me, but I decided that I was not going to give him any pleasure committing suicide because of what he did, he's just not worth it...
Move on, let all your emotions flow, sooner or later, you will get tired of feeling that way, and you will see the light at the end of the tunnel...
There will be a better love out there that will appreciate you a lot more, it is worth going through all that pain to be able to appreciate the next love that you get when it comes around... | |
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Joined: 2/28/2007
Msg: 112 | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 5:51:21 PM | First off, i'll admit to being somewhat cold on this subject and i know this will offend. However, in this world that is severly overpopulated with morons i'm more then ok with people committing suicide, especially if they are the right people. To steal a line from a song "Maybe we'd be better of without them anyway."
Alot of people say it's selfish to commit suicide, i think it's selfish for you to say something so generic to somebody who's down and tell them to get "help" as if they need to be fixed. When you are in that position it doesn't mean your broken, it means you're human. Just because you may have experienced something similar to what they are feeling doesn't mean you understand what they are going through because you are not them. That's like saying since we live in the same house we have the same experience. I'll jump up and say loudly that there are times when i've been and probably will be suicidal and all some jackass telling me it will get better will accomplish is making me want to take them with me. My point here is that suicide is not black and white, right and wrong, up or down or some other stupid cliche, some peoople should and some people shouldn't and that should be up to them.
Finally, as disturbing as it may sound, LOVE IS SUICIDE. When you choose to give yourself to somebody you are walking on an extremely tight wire where one wrong step and you may very well be done. Still, let's be honest, life is much funner when there's a real chance you may die. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 6:23:56 PM | | Thank you for your post AB2. It seems you have described me perfectly. It's like my heart is screaming, it wants to die but in my mind, I know that death is the end of EVERYTHING, not just the emotional pain I feel in my heart. Suicide is not the answer, but if you wait long enough, I do believe that it is possible to die from a broken empty heart. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2007 6:28:29 PM | | it could be a chemical imbalance.any number of things. help is there if they want it,they may or may not get better without treatment. nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. instead of seeking feel good ,(and ive been there too),advice from unprofessional people on a chat site.(im concerned also )they really should see a qualified doctor. yes, not all cases are the same. i know people really want to help but most are not trained . as far as life. hell yes. have fun .none of us are going to get out alive anyway. from the moment we are born death is certain at some point.thats the fun part ,not knowing when your number is up. have a great life | |
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Posted: 3/7/2007 6:23:39 AM | | Its important to be postive and look forward not back, who knows a person might have a great relationship in the future, just cos things have gone wrong in the past, does not mean they are always going to go wrong in the future, be postive. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2007 6:47:23 AM | | I have actually tried suicide after my fiance left me for another man and took my daughter and disappeared I did try suicide multiple times including march 5th | |
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Posted: 3/7/2007 8:11:22 AM | Mickeygoodwin that must be really hard to go through not seeing your daughter, i could not imagine what it must be like to not have access to your kids, i think it is a heartless thing to do to stop a caring parent seeing their kid. You do have legal rights. You are your kids father and will always be and kids dad and they never forget. I hope you manage to find her and resume contact.
Your a young man only 19 and you have your whole future ahead of you, we are only on this earth for a short while and your life is too prescious to let go of. In the future you will probably find a nice young woman and settle down and the black cloud of disappointment and hurt will disappear so do not give up. We all get trouble in this life of one sort or another but what you have to remember is this will pass and look forward to better days because their will be better days ahead.
I remember reading in a newspaper advice from a lady who was the oldest woman in the world, she went through terrible times in her life in russia, she remembered poverty in russia the peasants sufferred, and how good lenin was in helping the peasants and stalin coming and her husband was murdered and other family members and her advice was their is nothing in this life worth worry about, she said enjoy each day as if it was the last day of your lfie , eat good food. drink good wine, Your life is important and i pray that you will make the best of it because you deserve to. | |
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Joined: 1/10/2007
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| Suicide??!!
Posted: 3/7/2007 9:00:48 AM | | In a way i envy this extreme love for someone.I wasn't born with it.I was given other strengths perhaps.It must be overwhelming to feel so deeply.How vulnerable a person must feel..then i think of all the people that need that and don't have even a thimble full.Walking zombies.In some way people trick themselves about this weakness they have.That they are no good because of it.But its actually a strength | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 5:54:51 PM | This title caught my eye ! Suicide has touched my life,I am a suicide survivor..My husband of 7 years died by suicide May 07..Suicide is an epidemic,every 16 minutes someone decides to end their life , every 17 minutes someone like me is left to wonder why and mend all the broken pieces of my heart and walk on threw this world.
I will tell you what suicide is,it is a fleeting moment when you think everything is impossible and that you are always going to be in severe pain.it is like an temporary insanity..No one dies by suicide thinking they are going to hurt everyone,they are not thinking beyond their pain..
They are not in their rational mind because if they were it would not happen.Please do not tell me it is a selfish act ! Wrong thing to say to a suicide survivor! it can not be selfish when it is an irrational act.My husband was a good man an he wouldnt hurt a fly..he was not himself when he decided to end his life of 51 years..When people think of dieing by suicide if they would just pick the phone up and call a hotline or go to someone who will listen to them or a hospital..the fleeting thought of hurting one self would not happen..it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem..All ages die by suicide it is not prejudice...My husband was a good looking hard working Bridgebuilder for a union..Think you know what one looks like,that does this..You dont..It can strike someone you love next..unless we get this out in the open like AFSP is doing and so many others..This word that starts with an S..will be shunned and tabooed...But believe me I never thought it would strike someone I loved either..Always take it serious,because it is meant..Ask the person that threatens ,how they attend to do it..If they can tell you ,you better believe they are serious..
Please moderaters do not take this off,the subject was here and it needs to be addressed by someone who has lived in the aftermath of suicide..
my husband not only took his life that day he took mine! yes..I will never be the same person..I will be a new person but I know longer will be the gal that I was.I am 54 years old and have not had a easy life but this by far brought me to my knees..The only thing that has stopped me from doing what my husband did,in order to join him,was a hotline!! They asked if I wanted to leave my loved ones in the pain i was in at that moment? hell no...because it is a living hell...it is over for the one that died by suicide but we are still breathing and feeling..It hurts !! Like nothing I ever incountered..I can not even put it into words..But I lost a limb when I lost the love of my life..But I am still a living vibrant women...So I put myself out here so I can meet friends and perhaps one day,maybe find someone special again..
Being lonely is temporary,if your lonely join a group,do some activitys..
God gave you this life,enjoy it while you can...I feel if someone is meant to come into your life they will at a moment you least expect it..There are things that people can do to stay busy..Do you like animals , work with animals...Senior citizens in a convalesent home,some have no family..Help someone...Im sorry for the rant...But when it comes to something that has effected my life so heavy,I have to open my mouth...Get Help..it is out there.... | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 6:19:25 PM | you claim cutting is related directly to suicide. most people cut to shock there system. you usually wake up more when you feel pain. its transferring your energy into a outlet. its bad but to walk away from someone like that. could just push them to the next step.
but you know what suicide in my opinion is the response for a society without community. this society is of disposable people. why be there for someone who cant be there for themselfs? thats a very selfish saying, thats the problem with individualism, we can forget about people so fast that it creates a net lose in everyones mind, unless they think only about themselfs. and there treasures and there amarican dream. | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 9:52:45 PM | I have to ask everyone here who posted some questions. Does anyone here smoke, drink contaminated water, eat contaminated food, breath polluted air,drink acssesive amounts of alcahol, engage in sexual activities without protection, or do drugs. Well all of us do one or the other of those activities, wouldn't you agree. My fellow posters, you are commiting suicide!!! You are mearly doing it the slow way. Hey, I've got news flash for you, no one gets out of this alive!!!!!
Yeah, maybe it is that when you take your life the fast way, you are being selfish, but if you are living everyday in pain, then isn't it selfish of others to continue to ask you to go on living, just to make them happy. Oh, you say,"It will get better, just hold on" Well what if it never does? What if life never gets any better, and you just keep going on in pain, trying to hide it so no one knows? Is that what you would have someone do if you loved them, Waking up everyday,not wanting to be here, not enjoying living any longer, but being here to make you happy? How selfish are you to deny them the right to return home to their Creature who will love them, and show them how to be whole again. Your going to go there too, they just got there faster.
I am new to these forums, and alot of folks aren't going to like me right off the snap for what I say here, but I am use to being misunderstood, maybe that is why I wake up every morning wondering why I am still here and go to bed every night wishing I didn't have to wake up in the morning wondering why. Suicide. yeah, if it wasn't that I have people who still need me, I'd be gone so fast, it would not be funny. I don't fit this world any longer and really never did. Things have just gotten too crazy for me to understand any more. Relationships everywhere fail, people don't really care about each other anymore, greed, hatred,selfishness, lieing, cheating, addictions, abusive behavior, ect.,ect.,ect. So you think I'm mentally deranged because I would rather leave this sick planet and go home to be with my God, than to stay here and wallow in all this BS we have all created for ourselves. Sure there is still some beauty I see. My beautiful childrens and grandchildrens faces, the blue, blue sky,laced with white clouds, or the rainbow that formed over my land the other day. But I also see the tears stains when people break my childrens hearts, because of their unfeeling ways, and the polution that is ruining this planet for future generations and know someday there will be no more rainbows. Please don't tell me others hurt too, I know they do. Do you really think that will make me feel better, to believe my fellow beings hurt as I do. I don't think so.
To those of you who have lost loved ones to suicide, I kow it hurts to loose someone o death, I have lost many, and there are those who I could not bare to loose. Trust me when I say, it was not that they did not love you or think of you, because when you think of taking your own life, all you can think about is how it will affect those you leave behind, and it is torture, but your desire for the release from the pain you feel is greater than the love you leave behind. No one really can say for certain where we go when we leave here, but each person who takes their own life, has to believe that there is something so much greater on the other side that they are willing to risk it and I believe in a Heavenly Father who knows our every thought and understands the pain we feel,so He is there for us all,even if we choose to go early. | |
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