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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 7/3/2006 2:58:26 PM | | I disagree with the born like it statement....towards the end of the 70's and onwards into the 80's, there was another push by pop artists starting with Tom Robinson and progressing through to people like the New Romantics...who all suggested that it was actually trendy to be effiminate/gay, and I suspect many a confused young man may have dabbled in the same sex shenanigans on the grounds of being trendy.....You can disagree if you like, but I've seen it happen...not with me mind you...So if you think I'm babbling, I don't give a monkeys and you can f'ck off....lol...Oh... and before I forget...Mr Tom "sing if you're glad to be gay" Robinson....actually stopped being glad to be gay and got married and settled down with kids....trends huh....f'kin students!!!... | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 7/4/2006 11:23:47 AM | | I do not believe people are born gay. I believe it is a choice. When they find a gene for it, I may change my mind. Until then, you are either genetically male or female, period. I realize there are some that are born with parts for either, then I guess the most sensible thing to do would be to just test their DNA and see which they are. | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 7/4/2006 3:04:50 PM | | Some people are born transgender, eg.. female with partial male organs and male characteristics, so they are classed as gay, but I think that some people just want to try something different, like it, and become gay.. some people are just swayed by the current trends, and otehrs cant find an opposit sex partner, so give up and become gay... well thats my explanation for what its worth. | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 7/17/2006 2:36:07 PM | I've heard that young mammals - mice, I think, had homosexuality induced by being given injections of hormones from the opposite sex while they were infants. And the conclusion was that either prenatally or immediately post-natally, the sexual preference was decided and fixed.
I am frankly just not aroused by the sight of a woman's body. I think I was born that way.
I could see unusual circumstances producing rare examples such as through abuse by a same-sex person. But generally thinking, I side with nature.
And as for gay males having older brothers..... I don't know any who have alot of older brothers, but I do know a few who are only child, and my cousin was the middle boy. His younger brother is not gay, nor his older.  | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 7/18/2006 3:18:25 AM | | some people like the taste of cheese, some people hate it. the chinese think the idea of drinking cows milk is disgusting but were would the rest of the world be without milk for their corn flakes. some things are just beyond human comprehension and its best to just accept them | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 9/28/2006 4:34:35 AM | What everybody seems to have forgotten is to put homosexuality into a social-historical context. I think most of the reasons mentioned above are valiid as to why a person could be gay. But lets go back 2000 years, greaks, romans, etc. They believed that love between two men was the highest form of love. It was accepted. Sexuality was celebrated. It was only the much more controlling and oppressive arabbic religions i.e. christianity, Islam. That took over and sent the world backwards for hundreds of years (and stopped people having fun!).
Gay is just a label, it's just a word. Liking men or women should just be a preference just like prefering brunettes over blonds (i.e. nature determines that we should prefer blonds but we don't discriminate against those that don't or give them a label)
Live and let live. | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 9/28/2006 6:19:00 AM | Its just how people are born they cant change their preference even if they fight against it... but most men and women are bi curious to a certain extent( although alot wont admit it), its human nature to wonder about things, i was curious and slept with a woman...that was a "choice" it didnt make me gay or bi, i just wanted to try it out.. im a vegetarian but it doesnt mean i dont think a bacon sandwich smells good! | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 9/28/2006 6:43:45 AM | lifestyle choice...........yeah right this week i wanna be ridiculed and abused physically by idiots .........let me think, oh i be gay........i think you will find the lifestyle choice is more a gay or lesbian person trying to be straight because they cant deal with the idiots.......... | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 9/28/2006 9:25:51 AM | When i was 14 my kid sister came into the world, and after 4 brothers was i excited at the prospect of treating her to little dresses and putting ribbons in her hair.
She hated it, she was always thought of as a boy, and i have photos of her with a dissaproving look on her face..she was just not comfortable being a girlie.
She dated boys as was expected of her, and made effort to wear skirts and heels at weddings and funerals. (but shooting off home to change.. soon after.) She came out to me when she was 17, but i had known since she was very small.
At 19, she took an overdose. She had struggled with it for sooo long, always a private person and shy, i remember that night vividly, in the hospital, after they pumped her stomach, her telling the docs that they were wasting thier time, as she would do it again.. many hours passed, and tears rolled down her face all night, i didnt think it was possible to shed so many tears. She looked at me and quietly said, "theres no place for people like me in this world". She promised me she would never attempt that again, and she didnt.
NO ONE! could convince me, that my sister chose to be gay. Its been bloody tough going for her. and millions like her. | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 9/28/2006 9:30:12 AM | years ago i would say it was genetically determined but due to our society being a much more accepting one and people being brought up in a less stricter enviroment I would say it is definitely a lifestyle choice.
Each to their own I say but i have a few gay friends who's sexuality was most def genetically determined who have issues with the 'trendy gays' as they say that people who camp it up and throw it in people's faces etc etc make it so much harder for them to try and be accepted properly in society. | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 10/1/2006 7:54:12 PM | Strange Topic...one I could never fully understand!
For me, as a Straight Man...I am MOST careful to NOT "Fart" in the presence of Gay Men. I wouldn't want to confuse them to think I was Flirting in any way
Anyway, Men with Men is just...."nasty". It all comes down to the perverted "sex acts" that most people envision, when they think of Gay Men having sex.
Most sexually active NORMAL people can't help thinking these negative thoughts when Gay sex is spoken of. To them (and me), Gay sex is thought of as ABNORMAL and PERVERTED. But, I guess some things are better left unspoken, LOL. BUT, then we are called Homophobes for thinking this way. Another thing I could never understand.
And I do believe The Bible calls homosexuality an "Abomination." What is an Abomination?
Abomination - "an action that is vicious or vile; an action that arouses disgust or abhorence" | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 10/1/2006 8:48:48 PM | I think that this is a complex question which presents a false dilemma. It's kind of like asking "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" or "Are you for me or against me?"
I've met afew gay people and I think there are many reasons for individuals being gay including the above and combinations of more of the above than the other, etc...
I also think some people just do it because they're not turned on by the opposite sex and want to have a love life.
Jeez... all through nature there are variations in sexual behavior. There are nonhuman primates who engage in behavior humans would call homosexual. There are even species of birds who can't mate without a third one being present. Birds are one of the only other monagomous species on the planet, and I've heard even they mess around.
It's pretty obvious to me that the women I've known have had completely different feelings about sex than men, or at least me, although combining one with another can be incredibly exciting...; and distinctly different physical/emotional sensitivities than other women.
It's hard for us to understand people who aren't the same... and we are indeed, very different. | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 10/2/2006 12:13:30 AM | | of course gay people are born gay. whether its an abomination or not, seemingly we are all God's children. why on earth would anyone choose a life that is going to be full of prejudice and stupid comments like that of "q1stman". and on the subject of him, what on earth makes you think that any gay man who has sight in his eyes would even remotely look at you in a sexual way? that is the problem with a lot of straight men, they think that a gay man fancies all men, and this is so untrue. so really i think that q1stman needs a reality check here. | |
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| Is Being Gay Genetically Determind Or A So-Called Lifestyle Choice Posted: 10/2/2006 5:08:17 AM | Being gay has been around about as long as there has been sex so I would have to say there is something genetic going on there.
Someone might have a genetic predisposition to being gay and there be an environmental trigger making them permanently swing that way. But if the desire wasn't already there, I could see them swinging right back to hetero. Being gay is pretty accepted around here and they have a lot of advocates so you get to meet a lot of gay people. Out of the ones I know, I'd say with the majority...its genetic. There may be a small miniority where its about something else e.g. control.
With some, there was always something a bit more feminine in these guys than other ones I knew even when they were in the closet about it. For others, its actually a bit of a shock. You'd have no idea they were gay at all if they didn't tell you.
Personally, I have no problems with guys being gay. Unless they are really hot and then its damn...what a waste. | |
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