| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/28/2006 5:19:48 PM | ^^hey i am from montreal too (originally NDG)
On topic...for me I wanted to experience something before judging it as pointless and wrong. I am not at all bi...but it wasnt bad...seems to me its not hurting anyone | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/28/2006 5:31:50 PM | Bisexuality is not experiencing... it's a lifestyle...
Plus the issue is not if it hurts someone or not... I am discussing it's place in our society, in the existence of humanity, in the animal world and it's origin... not if it hurts someone of not...
Not hurting anyone is not quite a justification of purpose, it's a bad justification after the fact... Curiosity is a good reason to try something, that I agree...
I should be nicer to you however since ur in my town and willing to do it with another girl.... Hmmm... I said it before, me liking it and me understanding it's place in our world are 2 really different things... | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/28/2006 5:37:07 PM | ^^lmao...actually i was born and raise in Montreal..but i needed an income so i moved to alberta lol...but if ya ever come for a visit i have a gf who would help me show ya the town....broaden your horizons a bit
I do agree. that just cuz something feels good doesnt make it a good idea. I suppose i would worry more if it were affecting the numbers of children being born and the human race were dying off owing to the lack of reproductive couplings. That is not the case. I cant be arrogant enough to think i know what is good for society or where natural evolution of a society will take us. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/28/2006 7:42:09 PM | I’m going to stand on my soap box for a moment on this topic.
I don’t know if bi-sexuality is a trend or not, it would appear that it is starting to, as we all can testify to seeing it, pretty much in daily lives. As for myself I am bi-sexual, I like both men and women. I do take men over women for relationships. When I’m with women it for just sexual pleasure, when I’m done, I’m done. But like a man in my life (not that there is one right now, and no that is not an invitation). As for the female preface it’s something that really has always been there for me, so I can’t say that the media or someone whispering in my ear has lead me to trying it or doing it. In my humble opinion, I think that it has just become more open than in our past. Fear of being labeled, singled out, teased bulled, not knowing were to meet others if like mind, and what ever else would runs gamut maybe kept a lot of women silent. Dunno, but I like both guys and dolls.
Sapphire; take it easy, and if it’s easy take it twice (mmmmm, twice is nice)
Happy Canada Day!!!!! | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 3:33:16 AM | Thanks for all your responses!
It appears that society loves to label everybody, even though people can't always be pigeonholed into one category!
I recently saw the movie "Kinsey" with Liam Neeson, where (if I remember right!) they created a scale to measure people's sexual orientation.
1 = completely heterosexual (no interest in the same sex) 2 3 = likes both sexes equally 4 5 = completely homosexual (no interest in the opposite sex)
Where would you be? If somewhere in the middle (2,3,4) have you ever actually had an experience with the same sex?
As I said before, I have no interest in men, so I would be a 1. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 6:22:16 AM |
When I’m with women it for just sexual pleasure, when I’m done, I’m done.
This is another double standard that I don't understand.Why is it OK for a bi woman to enjoy another female just for sex, but if a hetero guy admits that he just wants sex with a woman for the sake of sexual player, he's a lowlife? | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 6:47:51 AM | Who said he's a lowlife? Oh ok some people will.
But this is 2006. Sexuality is much more open and accepted. I understand men want sex. I want sex. Let's have sex. Yay for us.
Just don't use people, lie, cheat, fake, play everyone to get your sex. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 8:03:51 AM |
I got no introspection and I therefore will NEVER learn from my mistakes" or the person assumes that they NEVER make mistakes or anything that would hurt themselves or others... I dont like that kind of lack of consideration or disconnectedness from reality... but that's me... Whatever... no regrets means you lived and you learned...least in my world it does. Just because I do no obsess myself with over thinking things in the world doesn't mean I am disconnected from reality.... | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 8:50:11 AM | You're close, but a little bit off with your scale. Kinsey's scale has a rating of 1-6. 1 is completely heterosexual, with no THOUGHTS even of the same sex. 6 is the opposite, completely homosexual, with no thoughts of the opposite sex. the rest range from 2-5, 2 and 5 being having thoughts and sexual attraction, perhaps acting on it once or twice. 3 is a preference for the opposite sex, but still likeing the occasional encounter with the same sex. 4 is prefering the same sex, but likeing to occasionally see the opposite sex. There is no actual middle ground, becuase no one is 50-50...you always prefer one over the other. For example, the women who posted they like sleeping with women, but not having realtionships with them. very rarely is someone open to both sexual and emotional relationships on an equal basis with both sexes. anyways, thats Kinsey's scale. He believes that 95% of us fall between a 2 and a 5.
I don't see why bisexuality is such a big issue lately.....it's a sexual preference, everyone has one! we're not confused, we're not promiscuous, we're not afraid to come out of the closet, and it's not a "lifestyle choice". Why does it matter to the rest of the world who we choose to have a relationship with? | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 10:10:30 AM | I had this same shock the other week... my young (19 year old) niece was over and she was refering to her friends being with other girls... then one night we were chatting online and she was saying she was coming to stay with me for a week (next week actually) and said her roommate saw my pic and thinks Im hot and now wants to come up with her so she can meet me...Im like ><..WTF????? welll.... thank goodness...she isnt able to come now... CRAZY....
and no ...i dont think its the same for men. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 12:29:31 PM | Well the bisexual girls may say "thank god!" but when I was dating and looking through profiles if I saw something about bisexuality on the profile I immediately said "next!" I don't like women who are very promiscuous, and maybe I'm wrong, but to me bisexuality is indicative of someone who will have more partners, doesn't treat sex as something special, and is more likely to stray when in a relationship.
I'm sure there are exceptions to this, but I believe that generally this is the case. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 12:32:37 PM | | i have in the past been with women and couples i loved it!.....it wasnt planned but it happened and i dont regret it ...would love to do it again but not sure if i,d feel the same with my hubby.....it would be kind of cheating!,even if he was there! | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 12:34:00 PM | Aces.. your assumptions about bisexual woman is obserd. seriously. how absolutely offensive that just because we are attracted to both sexes that that means we are premiscuous. seriously.. its a generalization that steams from ignorance. not any form of concrete knowledge. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 12:38:46 PM | | Actually being bi sexual myself it is surprising even to me how many women have not been with another woman but have thought about it, or at least experimented (kissing, etc). Most of the experimenting is done while drunk but still counts...Sorry, the liquor just makes a person braver to try something they have already been thinking about doing. And that's how it started with me...An innocent kiss with my roommate when I was 16. But, for men I find that the percentage of men that are bi sexual is a lot lower then women. My guess is that most men think that even thinking of another man in that way makes them less masculine. And so I think for a lot of men it's either one way or another, gay or straight. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 12:40:18 PM | | Oh yeah and just because I am bi sexual doesn't mean that I stray while in a committed relationship..I never have and never will. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 1:49:59 PM | It's hard to an have objective and meaningful discussions on a topic when ppl feel the need to defends themselves all the time and feel attacked as soon as we discuss a topic that touches them...
It is impossible to discuss a topic if ppl lose their objectivity just to justifiy their own lifestyle...
You're not gonna like this example, but I can guarantee you that a serial killer can always justify it's lifestyle and will feel insulted if we say that he's wrong in his way of seeing life...
A human beeing is wired to justify it's own actions. To see reality for what it really is, it takes a level of introspection and objective self-criticism that is not given to everyone...
I really dont expect anyone that has built a psychological structure allowing bisexuality to happen and that has built more reinforcement to justify the actions taken to actually agree with what I say...
When I was 21, you shouldve seen me argue til death that TV and medias could NEVER influence me, not even subconsciously... I grew older and I understood many things about life and human beeings... I understood too that one of my main reasons for not believing I could be influenced was because I wanted to believe I was totally independant and master of my own choices and decisions... I can tell you, as long as you dont realize what is playing with ur mind, you will never be free to choose, you will always have something influencing you, especially if you dont even want to acknowledge it... | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 3:42:50 PM | Discussed it with others as well...concensus is that most find two women together very sensual...male and female alike...I couldn't even watch a video with two men..and found it quite difficult to be turned on by listening to another man (start to describe to me in detail, his experience with another man)...as much as it is the fantasy of many men to watch as well as be a part of two women (especially if they are bi--) having sex...it is the fantasy of many women as well, but a lot of us are fearful to ask hoping all the while that one day we are in the right situation so we 'can' experience it ...even if only once...and yes, I can honestly say, that I have had the opportunity and very happy about it.  | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 3:48:32 PM | | The only reason it has become more 'trendy' and 'socially acceptable' for women to be 'bisexual' is because it's every guy's fantasy and so many young women have low self esteem and want men to want them. I've spoken to many women my age and a little younger and they say they only pretend to be bi to attract guys. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 3:52:14 PM | Serial killers have what to do with bisexuals? Please. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 4:19:53 PM | the belief that what they are doing is what they should be doing... The inability to realize what causes them to behave the way they do... The lack of objectivity while evaluating their own situation...
It's not the specifics of what they are doing (serial killers) that I compare to bisexuals, it's the psychological process behind their actions and the justifications they use to make themselves feel better about it... If you dont understand that, you have a lot to understand about human psychology/psychiatry/physiology/sociology and biologoly... Then again, you probably think that your choices are made without any past burdening those specific choice process...
Like Morpheus once said to Neo : "You're living in a dreamworld, Neo..."
P.S. For some reason, women from Washington seem to ALWAYS disagree with me... I thinks it's funny ;) | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 4:42:46 PM |
Serial killers have what to do with bisexuals? Please. You never saw Thelma and Louise?
mmm... serial-killing bisexuals... ;) | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 8:42:43 PM |
Do you think many normally heterosexual women are open to being with another female? Think its the same for men?
No I don't think it's the same for men. I do have some theories on the subject though.
Throughout time there has always to one degree or another a shortage of men. Especially early in history. Wars, accidents, fights, hunting accidents etc. So I think that women have more of a wiring for it. Though in most cases it's just pleasure and they do not really want a "relationship".
I do know that men at one time, if they were destructive to the group, destructive and abusive in a group, weak, poor disposition for optimum survival etc. These males were either killed or driven off. Well these ostracised men banded into groups. They survived poorly but they still needed sexual contact. So I think that different genetic defaults do exist in some that have a propensity to that.
Men as a rule, throughout history, in homosexual groups, died off or were killed off.
I do know that there are many men who will get jealous of another woman. I think that this is a little silly. Another woman would not be a threat to me. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 8:46:42 PM | | I don't know if it's a trend, but yeah, most women seem to be kinda gay now. Whatever. | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 9:39:58 PM | | I remember when i was 15 i told my dad i liked a girl..it was the weirdest thing ever to do..then after that it kinda faded until i hit 19..I've been with 2 girls and made out with alot..but making out is really nothing..at least i consider it nothing...I'm married now and i know i love my husband more than anything and just coz i was with girls before i'm not going to cheat on him with a girl or a guy. I've always fell for people..not the gender... | |
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| Female Bisexuality Posted: 6/29/2006 10:53:44 PM | Maybe because the female form is more pleasing to the human eye than the male form? This has been true for countless millenia through countless cultures and civilizations.
In ancient Greece and Rome they had NO term for homosexuality. They just had a term for "sexuality" and left it up to the individual. And those cultures lasted for centuries, and were the basis for our own modern culture. So who are we to say if a girl/girl pairing is bad? Or a guy/guy? Or a girl/girl/guy/goat/octopus? Well, maybe that last one is a bit extreme...
Eric | |
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