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Posted: 7/31/2006 6:10:38 AM |
you are an island of sanity amongst the inmates in the funny house! But you know, we shouldn't get to concerned because Israel has been copping it from this lot since 1948 and its got them nowhere. But they are the minority in your country and mine; they have no power where power counts
both you guys are the ones misinformed -- one,, is down under (a rock) in a place called OZ
the other is in a red state where money buys you election , probably a good ole boy redneck.
The sentiment ALL over the world IS and HAS been siding and sympathetic to the plight
and suffering of the peoples in this conflict for some time --Whether Palestinian, Lebanese
or even Hamas and Hezbollah -- the WORLDS sees the truth and your view is fast sinking
into your sunsets....
the WORLD is OUTRAGED to what ISRAEL has and is DOING
in his own little world & hasn't studied history much. He don't get it. He doesn't even put much of a profile or picture.
I share the many views of vivid,,, I studied history at NYU, the Kevorkian Institute for Near Eastern Studies ,, across the street was Yeshiva University and many JEWS from
Yeshiva and on campus at NYU attended classes with me and SHARE MANY VIEWS HERE-
NYU (NY JEW) to many ,,,was also about 1 mile from another false statement of yours!
Go to big cities around the USA or World and you will even find most learned JEWS outraged
as to what ISRAEL is doing now...............
The Muslim extremist's have made this a religious war & the hate will continue for at least another generation. They hate all western ways of life. I feel sorry for the Lebanese people but they allowed the cancer to infiltrate their government. I don't blame Israel for punching back. Evidently a lot of other folks don't either by reading the polls. If the Muslim extremists' are not stopped now we can expect the life as we know it to be different
so much BS here where to start...............
First,,, Muslims (middle eastern, ARAB) by straight numbers are the same exact %% of US population as JEWS in the USA.............
The %% of extremists are actually very low --- but that depends on your view of an extremist -- I actually would consider YOU by definition an extremist !!
The USA encouraged and actually demanded free elections in the region,,,
HAMAS won a fair election as it was watched by the international community-
NOW as a redneck you do not want to hear this but HEZBOLLAH as a political entity
won the same free monitored elections in LEBANON ---
If Hezbollah and HAMAS are CANCER then the USA is 100% responsible for them being in place
the people spoke....
Sometimes we as free people are not comfortable with those elected ---
LOOK,, we here in the states have to deal with the RESIDENT SELECT BUSH
A lot of hero's died to give them that right to speak. They forget what happened 9-11. Sadly it may take another hit from them to wake them up & you better believe the FBI has been tracking religious fanatics here in our country & they believe it may happen soon. God Bless our Troops & God Bless America.
as said earlier - this has nothing to do with 9/11
again , I knew -lived with studied and worked with 100+ victims of 9/11
YET this just proves your ignorance,,,
Saudi Born Ossama Bin Ladden was solely responsible for 9/11
he had NO -- Zero Dialog with either Saddam Hussein , Yassir Arafat anyone in Hamas or Hezbollah -- there was a fundamental difference in ideology and sects of belief
There are many sects within the Muslim faith and without a dissertation on this just understand they were as many miles apart as they are geographically... Religious and Secular states -- Iran and Iraq had nothing in common -- Afghanistan (Taliban) was
in line with Iran in many ways but not at all with Iraq...
I don't blame Israel for punching back.
when someone launches a "Katyusha " rocket with 122mm shell -at most 48 lbs of explosive & no guidance system ,pre WWII Soviet technology at you ............
You ISRAEL strike back with 500 - 2000 pound bombs with supposed
laser , GPS computer guidance - not to mention air DRONES
Merkava Mk-4 Tanks - Navy Vessels and so much more (paid by US $$$)
Sounds like the story in BOTH the Bible and Torah --
David and Goliath
in this case Lebanon, Hezbollah and Hamas may in reality be DAVID
we know the outcome in the OLD Testament
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why not read some stories in Aljazeera for another perspective
He don't get it. He doesn't even put much of a profile or picture
I have posted a photo of myself and friends at a peace protest in NYC just for you
hope you enjoy them | |
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| Israel vs. Palestine
Posted: 7/31/2006 12:10:51 PM | Some analysis of some inflammatory comments:
The muslim extremist's have made this a religious war & the hate will continue for at least another generation.
Emmm... I haven't heard them saying anything about any god. This war is about the control of the region, not of religions. Again, RELIGION has nothing to do here, in the same sense as the conflict in Northern Ireland was NOT about religion.
ANYONE (physically or mentally) hurt during a war develops hate.
Who is being hurt the most today?
To every action there is a reaction...
They hate all western ways of life ...
Many webpages describe the FORMER beauty of Lebanon and the cosmopolitan feeling in it. The Switzerland of the East was called before the civil war... Beirut, "the Paris of the East" is a seaport, which like many others, welcomed and enjoyed anything. This idea that all muslims are the same regardless of them being from Lebanon, Sudan, Indonesia or Canada is very VERY short sighted.
They hate all western ways of life (except using our technology to spread their hate on the internet).
Our technology? again... what is OURS? My friend you need to look beyond your screen...
see this: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0...
who invented those little numbers? (clue: they are called Arabic for some strange reason).
Coffee anyone? (Arabic...)
What about the telescope and all the basic maritime equipment used to arrive to the American continent?
The glass (windows)?
Plenty of medical advances...
Oh and this one is just for a bass player: the lute... probably the predecesor of the guitar, but also check this one: the Arabic alphabet goes something like this:
Dal, Ra, Mim, Fa, Sad, La, Sin... sounds familiar?
Who uses who?
Who HATES who?
Anyone who feels different don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way to another country. There should be plenty of room elsewhere as everyone wants to come here because of problems in their countries.
This view really scares me a lot. People assume that their opinions are absolute, pure and perfect. The land of the perfect that portraits. Shall remind you and many others in the USA who frequently pronounce similar statements to their "fellow" citizens:
"May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion". Dwight D. Eisenhower | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 12:22:39 PM | To lighten things up a bit - I found this in the POF archieves back on Feb 07 -2006
Let's all just have some coffee together !
A reflection on a sorry state of affairs
If an insect falls in a cup of coffee:
The Englishman:
Throws the cup away and walks out of the cafe,
insulted & seemingly violated.
The American:
Asks the waiter for another cup of coffee.
The Mexican:
Drinks the coffee and then spits out the insect.
Wonders if he will have to pay extra?
The Chinese:
Eats the insect and throws the coffee away
The Besieged Palestinian:
Drinks the coffee and eats the insect
The Israeli:
* Sells the coffee to the Americans and the
insect to the Chinese.
* Screams that his security is in peril.
* Accuses the Palestinians of throwing the insect
in his coffee.
* Alleges that Hezbollah, the Syrians and both Iraqi &
Iranians advocate attacks with weapons of mass
insects.
* Relates this vicious attack to Palestinian
Terrorism; attacks on Human Rights, Anti-Semitism, the
Holocaust, the Diaspora, the Exodus and Discrimination
on Noah's Ark.
* Asks Palestinians in the spirit of Arafat to immediately stop insects from
flying in the air or landing in coffee cups.
* Re-occupies the West Bank and Gaza, razes
houses, cuts off water and electricity, humiliates and
terrorizes civilians, kills or maims anyone in his
way.
** Imposes on the Americans more military aid.
*** Demands a 100-year, billion-dollar, loan from
America to buy another cup of coffee.
**** Claims life-time free coffee from the cafe as
compensation.
!They've got the best lawyers!
and you question why ? Palestinians elected HAMAS ??
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Posted: 7/31/2006 12:58:34 PM | I encourage everyone to view this.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614&q=Obsession%3A+What+The+War+on+Terror+Is+Really+About&pr=goog-sl&hl=en | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 2:35:26 PM | warning :::
as we would expect from Mr. Bass Redneck from Florida
this film 1 1/2 hour in length deals primarily with 9/11
propaganda and slant against Muslims , Arabs and the EAST--
Buddy --- this SHIT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD !
JOE PUBLIC --- DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME ON HIS LINK | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 3:20:07 PM | | I think it has EVERYTHING to do w/ this thread... Every bomb that goes off has to do w/ a bunch of Allah fearing wackos, who want to do nothing but Kill, Kill, Kill... nothing else... The same person who caused 9-11 is backing these people.. EVERYONE has a say in THIS and any other forum. I think you might need a break though... | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 4:35:31 PM | My impression is that the majority of non-Israeli peace loving people in the Middle East see the sitation from this perspective. The problem has three main elements:
1. undesirable Arab extremists
2. Israeli supporting U.S. capitalists, and
3. Jews have no claim to Israel in light of ancient territory and religion
They seem to belief that they have some influence over, or even responsibility for the Arab extremist element. They hope that western peace loving people have some responsibiltiy for and influence over the U.S. capitalist element in the middle east. They're incited by the prospects of the elimination of at least one of these first two, which would ultimately result in elimination of the other. But they have a sense that time and circumstance could diminish these two elements. That leaves one remaining factor. They are united in their belief, along with the extremists, that Israeli has got to go. Giving up Gaza was not enough for them.
I can't see any peaceful solution to this dilemna. Desperate times call for desperate measures. What about the repatriation of the Israeli's, for the sake of world peace?
Didn't want to and shouldn't have responded to this post because I'll be worrying about it now. | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 5:09:38 PM | Let's kick out all gods (and goddesses just in case), bomb them if necessary!
Could we now start living as we are, just a tiny speck of dust in a tiny little planet running around an average star at the edge of one average galaxy.
I'm delusional tonight. Humans think they are more important than that. That SOME of them are going to "prevail" over the rest because of a lethany of... rubbish, sorry ideology.
I wonder what they would do if someone announced that they kidnapped a god! | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 6:31:26 PM |
The same person who caused 9-11 is backing these people.. EVERYONE has a say in THIS and any other forum
Ossama had nothing to do with this - please try to understand this
I have and others have stated the facts,,, Ossama Bin Laden has NO
contact with Lebanon, Syria, Hezbollah or Hamas --- Please wake up !!! | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 7:07:08 PM | Republican Senator Criticizes US Policy on Middle East: http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-08-01-voa2.cfm
By Deborah Tate
Washington
01 August 2006
A key Senate Republican is calling on the Bush administration to work for an immediate cease-fire in the conflict between Israeli forces and the Lebanese-based Hezbollah militants.
Senator Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican and member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is calling on President Bush to appoint a special envoy to the Middle East. He suggested former secretaries of state Colin Powell and James Baker would be good candidates for the post.
In a speech on the Senate floor Monday, Hagel urged the Bush administration to do something it has so far refused: engage Syria and Iran, the main sponsors of Hezbollah. "Ultimately, the United States will need to engage Iran and Syria with an agenda open to all areas of agreement and disagreement. For this dialogue to have any meaning or possible lasting relevance, it should encompass the full agenda of issues," he said.
Hagel warned that close U.S. ties with Israel must not come at the expense of relations with the Arab and Muslim world. "The United States will remain committed to defending Israel. Our relationship with Israel is a special and historic one. But, it need not and cannot be at the expense of our Arab and Muslim relationships. That is an irresponsible and dangerous false choice. Achieving a lasting resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict is as much in Israel's interest as any other country in the world," he said.
The Bush administration has been a staunch supporter of Israel's ongoing military operations against Hezbollah in Lebanon.
But Hagel said military action alone will not destroy Hezbollah, and that the pursuit of tactical military victories at the expense of the core strategic objective of Arab-Israeli peace is a hollow victory. He urged the United States to reengage Middle East and international partners to find a resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Hagel, a potential presidential candidate in 2008, also offered comments about the U.S. challenges in Iraq.
"America is bogged down in Iraq, and this is limiting our diplomatic and military options. The longer American remains in Iraq in its current capacity, the deeper the damage to our force structure, particularly the U.S. Army," he said.
His comments came as top congressional Democrats urged President Bush to begin withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq this year. In an effort to portray a united front ahead of November congressional elections, Democrats sent the president a letter saying the open-ended commitment in Iraq should not be sustained. The letter called for withdrawing an unspecified number of troops this year, but did not include a deadline for completing the withdrawal.
Senator Jack Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat and member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, visited Iraq in early July, and offered his assessment of U.S. policy there in a speech in Washington Monday night. "The United States still lacks a coherent and effective strategy. The administration's sloganeering is wearing thin. Stay the course is difficult when a critical component, robust attention to the non-military demands of Iraq is lacking, and the presence of American forces is both difficult to sustain at present levels and invites growing concern within the United States and within Iraq," he said.
Democrats have been divided over whether to demand a deadline for troop withdrawal from Iraq and were unable to reach a consensus during a debate over the issue in June. Republicans were quick to criticize Democrats for supporting "cut and run" policies, and sought to portray them as in disarray over the war.
Democrats argue they are on the side of most Americans, who, according to public opinion polls, are not happy with President Bush's handling of Iraq.
Although the Pentagon had hoped to begin withdrawing troops by the end of the year, an upsurge in sectarian violence around Baghdad has prompted Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to announce plans to send as many as 5,000 additional troops to the Iraqi capital and extend the tours of 3,500 troops who were scheduled to come home.
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Posted: 7/31/2006 7:30:59 PM | Am I the only one that feels sick??
I understand enough to know that there are too many complexities in this situation to call it black or white. And honestly, all I see on the news are dead bodies, mostly civilians! Women, kids, babies!!!
....Yet the banjos of hatred keep playing.....
This thread is important! We even need to hear the red necks too....to fully appreciate how messed up we have become. | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 7:41:33 PM | The problem Israel has with Islamic terrorists is related to the problem all countries of the world have with Islamic terrorists. At some point, all the nations of the world are going to have to acknowlege the root of Islamic terrorism as being Islam itself.
It is really Islam against the entire non-Islamic world.
There is a trend among would leaders (who have not read the Quoran) to refer to Islam as a religion of peace and to groups such as Hamas, Hesbolah and Al Quida as perversions of Islam. This is not true. Islam is a violent religion with a violent bible and violent prophets. The peaceful Muslim states like Saudi Arabia who are just trying to mind their own business while raking in huge oil profits from the non-Mulsim world, are really the perversions of Islam.
I don't think we will be able to defeat the Muslims with guns and bombs alone. I think there needs to be an ideology campaign as well to educate them about the fallacy of their jihad oriented religion.
Someone needs to let them know it is not pleasing to Allah to blow themselves up as suicide bombers, or to chop people's heads off, or fly airplanes into tall buildings. | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 7:52:24 PM |
The problem Israel has with Islamic terrorists is related to the problem all countries of the world have with Islamic terrorists. At some point, all the nations of the world are going to have to acknowlege the root of Islamic terrorism as being Islam itself.
It is really Islam against the entire non-Islamic world.
There is a trend among would leaders (who have not read the Quoran) to refer to Islam as a religion of peace and to groups such as Hamas, Hesbolah and Al Quida as perversions of Islam. This is not true. Islam is a violent religion with a violent bible and violent prophets. The peaceful Muslim states like Saudi Arabia who are just trying to mind their own business while raking in huge oil profits from the non-Mulsim world, are really the perversions of Islam.
I don't think we will be able to defeat the Muslims with guns and bombs alone. I think there needs to be an ideology campaign as well to educate them about the fallacy of their jihad oriented religion.
Someone needs to let them know it is not pleasing to Allah to blow themselves up as suicide bombers, or to chop people's heads off, or fly airplanes into tall buildings I'm really happy that I ultimately found someone who knows what the hell she's talking about. seeing those bombarded area in Qana and in Lebanon in general, but again people in those areas are co-operating with fundamentalists. | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 8:02:49 PM |
The problem Israel has with Islamic terrorists is related to the problem all countries of the world have with Islamic terrorists. At some point, all the nations of the world are going to have to acknowlege the root of Islamic terrorism as being Islam itself.
It is really Islam against the entire non-Islamic world.
There is a trend among would leaders (who have not read the Quoran) to refer to Islam as a religion of peace and to groups such as Hamas, Hesbolah and Al Quida as perversions of Islam. This is not true. Islam is a violent religion with a violent bible and violent prophets. The peaceful Muslim states like Saudi Arabia who are just trying to mind their own business while raking in huge oil profits from the non-Mulsim world, are really the perversions of Islam.
I don't think we will be able to defeat the Muslims with guns and bombs alone. I think there needs to be an ideology campaign as well to educate them about the fallacy of their jihad oriented religion.
Someone needs to let them know it is not pleasing to Allah to blow themselves up as suicide bombers, or to chop people's heads off, or fly airplanes into tall buildings.
The exact same could be said about Christianity throughout most of its history. Get back to me when Islam has killed as many people in the name of their religion as Christians have.
It's 'fundamentalists' who are the problem... those who see in black and white y'know? who want to push their world view on others through might of arms?
I'm really happy that I ultimately found someone who knows what the hell she's talking about. seeing those bombarded area in Qana and in Lebanon in general, but again people in those areas are co-operating with fundamentalists.
In the same way that you cooperate with any criminals who live in your area, yes. | |
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Posted: 7/31/2006 8:04:11 PM |
The peaceful Muslim states like Saudi Arabia who are just trying to mind their own business while raking in huge oil profits from the non-Mulsim world, are really the perversions of Islam.
Saudi is perverted alright...it's the worst Islamic dictatorship going. Couldn't you have at least picked a democratic Islamic country, like Turkey, or something?
There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You would know it if majority of them were violent. What the majority is, is silent. People pushing that Islam is a violent religion, only help spread bigotry and hate. Encourage the silent Muslim community to speak up, and help spread the belief that Islam is peaceful.
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Posted: 7/31/2006 8:26:02 PM | Here is the SADDEST part of these thousands of years of history: The Arabs and the Jews can both trace their lineage directly to ONE person, and that would be ABRAHAM... Assuming he is in Heavan, how do yhou think he feels, watching his childern massacure each other.
THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, on to todays realities, and here is the bottom line boys and girls.... If the Jews were to lay down their weapons today, they would CEASE TO EXIST in the area, both as a country and a people. If the "Palastinians" were to lay down their arms, they would be given aid by every couintry in the world INCLUDING ISRAEL..... So now tell me, who is the bad guy here? The Jews have no choice but to fight, or else they will cease to exist. I've said it before, and it is not just a saying, but words to live by... Ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force. Unfortuneately for the Jews, the only thing their opponents understand is force, so the Jews are now talking their language.....
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Posted: 7/31/2006 8:58:57 PM | It's not quite that simple. Israel is still ilegaly occupying a bunch of land. Hezbollah has claimed it wants occupied Shebaa Farms, which Israel is illegaly occupying. Hamas has claimed it wants the green line partition. Both have indicated they'd be satisfied with that.
Instead of building a wall along the green line, Israel has chosen to permanently annex Palestinian land, like thieves.
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Posted: 8/1/2006 2:35:48 AM | | I'm surprized that with all your "knowledge" you don't realize that 911 was just one act of terror. They don't think of it as separate acts, why do you. Of course if you had watched the video in length you would have known that. BTW, I grew up in Chicago. I played Rock most of my life. I now play Country music because I believe in God, Family & my Country, not because I'm a redneck. | |
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Posted: 8/1/2006 3:18:36 AM | NOW as a redneck you do not want to hear this but HEZBOLLAH as a political entity
won the same free monitored elections in LEBANON ---
If Hezbollah and HAMAS are CANCER then the USA is 100% responsible for them being in place
Yea Pacifico , they sure are good at brainwashing. That's how the exteme muslim leaders get so powerful, they blame all the problems of the world on the west. They put the fear in people that the west is going to kill them. Their fed an exteme amount of media propaganda that feeds them lies. They teach their babies to kill & hate. You sound like you'd be happy being with them. I had a feeling you were young & wet behind the ears & I was right. Really, if you think there is a better country than the USA by all means you should go there. I know better, that's why people die trying to get here. I do feel sorry for the folks in Lebonon but we didn't put Hezbollah in their government & let them grow. I pray that there are enough intellegent people here (USA) that would never allow a group like them to even flicker. Nothing against you but you need a little growing up. | |
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| Israel vs. Palestine
Posted: 8/1/2006 4:13:14 AM | Reply to Message 382
---They put the fear in people that the west is going to kill them.---
Let's see, the US has 130,000 troops in Iraq carrying automatic weapons, driving tanks. We've supplied rockets, bombs, supersonic jet aircraft -- even nuclear weapons. It would be pretty easy to convince me you were trying to kill me.
--Their fed an exteme amount of media propaganda that feeds them lies.---
No No No. Fox News does not broadcast in Arabic. I don't think that many of the people of the middle east speak english, so how could they be getting Fox news.
---Nothing against you but you need a little growing up.---
And you need to understand that the history of the world did not begin on September 11, 2001. The Israelies have many strong points in their favor. The Islamics have many strong points in their favor. The US? Its main contribution to the whole affair has been to bring the guns to the party. For half a century. Guns. Guns. Guns. We can't afford to provide medical care for our children. But if you want guns -- 100 billion dollars, 250 billion dollars. No problem. As long as it's guns.
We got engulfed by a massive wild fire on September 11, yes we did. But it is time we stopped pretending that we were not playing with the matches. | |
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Posted: 8/1/2006 5:32:34 AM | | Hey bassplayer - I like your tune - it looks like they're doing the anarchist's line dance. | |
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Posted: 8/1/2006 5:46:48 AM | here we go again,,
Bass,
I had a feeling you were young & wet behind the ears & I was right.... Nothing against you but you need a little growing up.
to criticize the way you do and with no knowledge of
myself of the situation at hand..
You seemingly have selective reading
When you can say that you are from a Semitic tribe,
that is Christian and has a father who lived under Nazi occupation
besides myself being educated in International History,
years of foreign service and having known personally
over 100 people who died on 9/11 --
then and only then can YOU judge me....
Oh then again You are the one at over 50 wearing
skin tight black pants !!! I bow to the mature one 
NOW ,, the USA has installed it's own Western style
Democracy in the Middle East,,,, Either it fails
or we do not like the outcome of elections....
In Iraq a country we will be in for the next generation
the provisional and the final Government that is in place
is a total failure - our end result and gift to the people
of Iraq is a civil war,,, 10's of thousands of innocent
people killed and soon 3000 Americans killed for
NO REASON we ignited the situation by instilling
our ways --- OH! BTW...... where are the WMD's?????
FF to Palestine -- HAMAS won -- US Senators and Congressmen
were present to witness,,, Fair and Decisive....
higher % voter turnout than we ever have had here
AND margin of victory was a huge landslide (ala Barry Goldwater)
After we DEMAND a Democratic election we decide
we DO not want to recognize the GOVERNMENT freely elected
WE leave the PALESTINIANS to the brutality of her ISRAELI
CAPTORS... Israel can come ,go and does as she pleases
with no hesitation or accountability-- no reprisal from USA..
USA -- encourages free elections in LEBANON
again Hezbollah won a majority of seats in Parliament
they do represent people in a humanitarian and political way.
Then we demand/force/encourage SYRIA to get out of Lebanon
as SYRIA leaves the LEBANESE government is underpowered
left with NO WAY to defend herself,,, no Air force, no Navy
No weapons and virtually no Military (as example the NYC
Police force is twice the size of Lebanon's ARMY and 10x
better equipped)
HOW does anyone expect a Lebanese Army to rid herself
of all "terrorist" groups ,, potential threats,,when not only
are the groups in question are larger than them and
they are better equipped....
How ridiculous to demand of them to clean out a region
that now two powers in USA / Israel could never do !
The USA cuts and runs if the end result is not to their
liking --- We are a two faced friend -
OUR dollars kill the innocent in Palestine and Lebanon
to BASS and the others who doubt--
Innocent CHILDREN are killed everyday with YOUR tax dollars
and the technology of the WEST
FACT : there will be more innocent children killed in this region
than ALL military soldiers from ALL sides combined..
to group all Muslims as terrorists and hate mongers is totally
WRONG-- To say that all civilians , citizens of Lebanon are just
in the line of fire is WRONG.....
For Israel to continue to say OOPS we made a mistake
is FOOLISHLY WRONG -- We all know Israels agenda
and motives -- we support and have delayed the peace process
and cease fires for her behalf...
More innocent victims will die everyday!
The World view is :: AMERICA & Israel are TERRORISTS
any learned view of the situation without political alliances
would agree by definition....
people like BASS & Netab who do not see the realty of the situation
or the complexity of today's world in the middle east
are the same people who thought VIETNAM WAS A GOOD THING...
cut and run ,, +53,000 American G.I. dead and Communist in Place +
I THINK EVERYTIME SOMEONE BRINGS UP 9/11 IN THIS DEBATE
WE SHOULD ADD VIETNAM BECAUSE IT IS A BETTER EXAMPLE OF THE
EVENTUAL OUTCOME BOTH IN LEBANON AND IRAQ
Really, if you think there is a better country than the USA by all means you should go there. I know better, that's why people die trying to get here.
where did your tribe come from ? | |
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Posted: 8/1/2006 6:27:52 AM | No No No. Fox News does not broadcast in Arabic. I don't think that many of the people of the middle east speak english, so how could they be getting Fox news.
We only wish they were getting Fox news. Their #1 weapon is broadcasting false information & lies & not to mention beheadings ect. on their TV systems & internet. This is something we have not competed with them on. They don't see both sides. | |
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Posted: 8/1/2006 6:53:12 AM | | Pacifico, I've come to the conclusion, like the extreme muslims, there is no talking or negotiating with you. Your view is right & that's that. I try to keep up with what's going on & would change my views if I saw anything different over there, but I go with what I see. God bless America & the Troops for giving you the right to slander & make false accusations about the USA. Granted we are not perfect but we've come a long way in our history. I do know that we give more funds & help to other countries that all countries combined so thank you for your opinions. I'm sure everyone has enjoyed them. | |
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Posted: 8/1/2006 8:34:22 AM | CLOSED - This thread has run its course.
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