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 mustbeup2nogood

Joined: 5/23/2006
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I think this is a stupid ass thread just to say that guys are fat these days...???? WTF
Posted: 7/4/2006 8:41:52 PM
For men ... Muscle mass is the best indicater of True fitness .. you could be 175 of rock ribbed power or 175 pounds of gluttonous fat .. the two are NOT the same ...

As for Women ...

Most women are caught up in the "size issue" when it comes to fitness .. well size doesn't mean fit or Healthy .. Believe it or not ... you could be 140 pounds and be a size two .. its all in the level of fitness you have ...

Today .. men and women ( after age 27 or so ..) on avereage ... are carrying about 30 pounds of excess weight ... it definitely impacts your Social life .. your Health .. and your overall performance ..

Most of todays Health dangers are all created by unhealthy eating habits ... Overeating .. er .. Supersizing all our meals and consuming Huge amounts of Trans Fats .. Sugars .. Salts and God know what they are Preservatives .. is a sure way to eat your way into an early grave ..

Its an easy choice .. Abundant Health or a slow agonizingly painful death ...

You still want Fries with that?
 Tango_girl

Joined: 3/21/2005
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I think this is a stupid ass thread just to say that guys are fat these days...???? WTF
Posted: 7/4/2006 8:47:11 PM
yeah well your facts are not right...this is my point...so laugh it up never thought would make such a stupid thred that's all...
 Tango_girl

Joined: 3/21/2005
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I think this is a stupid ass thread just to say that guys are fat these days...???? WTF
Posted: 7/4/2006 8:48:55 PM
Who honestly cares about some guys being the way they are...it's NOT only men...
 zero.degrees

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 29
 malibu65

Joined: 7/2/2006
Msg: 30
Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/5/2006 5:56:07 AM
is maybe the ???? she is posing could be that she is wondering if men care about there weight as much as women do.....i find everyone lies about there weight in one way or another....what one may see as being athletic another may see as average...as in a case I just recently came across...what one sees as over weight may be seen as average...it depends on the person who looks like that and what another person sees u as....women and men can develope diabetes at anytime in there life...and it is not all genetics nor is it all in the way a persons body is..thin or fat we all can develope it.....me myself I am 5'2 and 170lbs and I am concidered over weight because of my height...now if I were 6 something then I wouldn't be....
 Tango_girl

Joined: 3/21/2005
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Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/5/2006 7:08:38 AM
yes you make sense I understand that :)
 Tango_girl

Joined: 3/21/2005
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Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/5/2006 7:10:36 AM
you know what Buck your the best...:):):):) my point exactly...thankx
 Drachnar

Joined: 7/5/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2006 7:25:41 AM
As a man who in the past 18 months has lost 140 lbs--not easy, but I did it--I think I can speak to this issue.

The sad truth is that, in the US, being overweight IS the norm. It IS average. So, the wording is deceptive. Since I finally got down within 10 pounds of my ideal body weight, I can say I'm "average" without any pangs of conscience, and it serves as a good general description of my weight--except that it is not, strictly speaking, true. It is not true because even I, who am maybe 5-10lbs overweight, am less overweight than a huge percentage of the population, which makes my weight below average.

Frustrating, huh? I've even had women saying I was getting too skinny (of course, they knew me when I was much heavier). It's amazing how standards change.
 Drachnar

Joined: 7/5/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2006 7:33:45 AM
Oh, I should add one more thing--

Yes, overeating and other unhealthy habits can mean an early and agonizing death. On the other hand, no one gets out of here alive. Even the people who jog 5 miles a day and eat rabbit food are going to die, and they are still more likely to die of cancer or heart disease than anything else.

I think you have to strike a balance between enjoyment of life and longevity, and remember that longevity is not guaranteed even if you do everything "right." If any of us could die at any time--and we could--shouldn't we enjoy life while we have it? Enjoying life doesn't mean overindulging, but underindulging is just as bad if you ask me.
 SXY_Chic_20

Joined: 6/14/2005
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Posted: 7/5/2006 9:05:36 AM
ok personally i want to know what the OP's point was in the first place...everyone here is arguing about what normal is but is that the point she was even trying to make...i dont know and i just read all of what everyone is saying...personally i dont agree that those stats are accurate anymore because times have changed and weight really shouldnt matter as much as health yes someone may be considered over wieght but as long as their healthy that should be the end of it...period...
 Racer71

Joined: 12/8/2005
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Posted: 7/5/2006 10:08:25 AM
It depends a lot on build and muscle mass.
I'm 5'11" with 190 lbs and I definetely don't look overweight, but I do keep myself fit/in shape. Theoretically I'm 12 lbs overweight, but if you check my pics (and all of them are 2 months old or newer) you'll see that I definetely don't look overweight at all..
 JustOnEdge

Joined: 7/1/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 7/5/2006 10:20:09 AM
I'm currently working out a lot and will be passing the average weight category. (Hoping for around 180 to 190 in a few months.) Now considering my body fat percentage should stay around 10 to 12 %, am I overweight? What will I be then?
 playinround

Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2006 10:23:50 AM
I was wondering why this was directed at men, since women have as many if not more lame excuses for being fat, but I see that those like Buck already brought that to light. I do think that men have a bit more flexibility in the weight category due to the fact that they can build up all those beautiful muscles, building mass, but not fat. I think women with too many bulging muscles looks icky, but that is just my opinion, some like it I guess.
But, I would also like to point out that not all us women out here who claim to be average are going by the standards of the fat, who claim they are average at 20lbs over weight (to me that is fat). I consider myself average at 105-110 at 5'2", but a lot call me thin. Guess when asking if you are average or what, you also have to ask which standards you are using.
 Drachnar

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Posted: 7/5/2006 10:48:46 AM
In my own weight-loss journey I had to do a fair amount of research on this subject.

In medical terms, the percentage of acceptable body fat for men is lower (8-12%) than for women (10-15%). There are perfectly sound evolutionary reasons for this discrepency, chief among them being that women bear children and consequently need more body fat than a man in order to feed the baby prior to giving birth.

Ironically, however, it is socially more acceptable for a man to be overweight than a woman. I'm not certain of the reasons behind this, but it is undeniably true--and it tends to confuse the issue greatly.

And another problem is that "weight" is, by itself, irrelevant. It is the percentage of body fat that matters--the proportion of lean muscle mass to adipose tissue. When you add in factors such as bone thickness and length, it becomes even more muddled.

How does this relate to dating? As I said before, I can now call myself "average" without qualms, but in reality, being only slightly overweight puts anyone, male or female, well ahead of the game here in the USA. And since "average" means something different to everyone, it really isn't a terribly useful word.

That's why we post pictures, people.
 Trishnaa

Joined: 5/31/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2006 3:44:11 PM
You can say the same about women too. Apparently few extra pounds is average and obese is a few extra pounds. You can look at profiles of men and women if you do not believe me.




~*Flavia*~
 beth623

Joined: 4/24/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2006 4:54:34 PM
since the united states is an overweight country...'average' would be a median....not to say if you were overweight or underweight....so i think i am average!...besides in the end it is what's inside not what you look like!
 treblecane

Joined: 6/2/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2006 10:06:03 PM
a fun(ny) website that posts chart-style photos of varying heights and weights.

http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/heightweight.shtml
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 43
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Posted: 7/5/2006 10:29:08 PM
I find it's more rampant for the women to fib about their weight than men....
 ohioking69

Joined: 6/30/2006
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Posted: 7/6/2006 11:53:21 AM
bullcrap ...im 6ft 230 and i can run a mile in 4mins and not be outta breath i play rugby which i run alot ...i could do more than a guy who weighs 160 so thats a bunch a bull on top of that i have low blood pressure and no diabetes what so ever its in the genes some ppl are built differently u cant use one chart to graph billions of ppl
 Gangrel_in_london

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Posted: 7/6/2006 1:56:52 PM
I have a coney dog and a smile! And I'm not afraid to use them!

~W
 KrazyKanuck

Joined: 6/11/2006
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Posted: 7/6/2006 2:31:42 PM
Also have to consider there is different body types.. 3 "general" ones..

endomorph
ectomorph
mesomorph

Each has a different "average" weight.. Now im not gonna sit here and try to explain this all.. But someone 6'1" 240lbs CAN be average weight... And TECHNICALLY someone 6'1" 280lbs can be over weaight and be build like a fridge. Muscle weighs more then fat...

Now shall we ask the same about females?? they can be ALOT worse then us. no offence.
 *singin4u*

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Posted: 7/22/2007 12:51:27 PM
Weight Chart for Women
Weight in pounds, based on ages 25-59 with the lowest mortality rate
(indoor clothing weighing 3 pounds and shoes with 1" heels)
Click here to calculate frame size

Height
Small Frame
Medium Frame
Large Frame

4'10"
102-111
109-121
118-131

4'11"
103-113
111-123
120-134

5'0"
104-115
113-126
122-137

5'1"
106-118
115-129
125-140

5'2"
108-121
118-132
128-143

5'3"
111-124
121-135
131-147

5'4"
114-127
124-138
134-151

5'5"
117-130
127-141
137-155

5'6"
120-133
130-144
140-159

5'7"
123-136
133-147
143-163

5'8"
126-139
136-150
146-167

5'9"
129-142
139-153
149-170

5'10"
132-145
142-156
152-173

5'11"
135-148
145-159
155-176

6'0"
138-151
148-162
158-179



Weight Chart for Men
Weight in pounds, based on ages 25-59 with the lowest mortality rate
(indoor clothing weighing 5 pounds and shoes with 1" heels)
Click here to calculate frame size

Height
Small Frame
Medium Frame
Large Frame

5'2"
128-134
131-141
138-150

5'3"
130-136
133-143
140-153

5'4"
132-138
135-145
142-156

5'5"
134-140
137-148
144-160

5'6"
136-142
139-151
146-164

5'7"
138-145
142-154
149-168

5'8"
140-148
145-157
152-172

5'9"
142-151
148-160
155-176

5'10"
144-154
151-163
158-180

5'11"
146-157
154-166
161-184

6'0"
149-160
157-170
164-188

6'1"
152-164
160-174
168-192

6'2"
155-168
164-178
172-197

6'3"
158-172
167-182
176-202

6'4"
162-176
171-187
181-207


*Ideal Weights according to the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company tables (1983)


Calculating Your Frame Size
Following is the method the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company used to calculate frame size:

Extend your arm in front of your body bending your elbow at a ninety degree angle to your body so that your forearm is parallel to your body.

Keep your fingers straight and turn the inside of your wrist towards your body.

Place your thumb and index finger on the two prominent bones on either side of your elbow, then measure the distance between the bones with a tape measure or calipers.
Compare to the chart below. The chart lists elbow measurements for a medium frame - if your elbow measurement for that particular height is less than the number of inches listed, you are a small frame - if your elbow measurement for that particular height is more than the number of inches listed, your are a large frame.
Elbow Measurements for Medium Frame

Men
Elbow Measurement
Women
Elbow Measurement

5'2" - 5'3"
2-1/2" to 2-7/8"
4'10"-4'11"
2-1/4" to 2-1/2"

5'4" - 5'7"
2-5/8" to 2-7/8"
5'0" - 5'3"
2-1/4" to 2-1/2"

5'8" - 5'11"
2-3/4" to 3"
5'4" - 5'7"
2-3/8" to 2-5/8"

6'0" - 6'3"
2-3/4" to 3-1/8"
5/8" - 5'11"
2-3/8" to 2-5/8"

6'4"
2-7/8" to 3-1/4"
6'0"
2-1/2" to 2-3/4"
 Algebra1

Joined: 7/1/2007
Msg: 48
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Posted: 7/22/2007 1:04:50 PM
OP, instead of looking at doctors' charts, take into account that this is a dating site, and the main reason for discussing body type is to get across how physically appealing one is. If someone is a bodybuilder or an athlete, then they will have more muscle mass and will be heavier than average for their height. Likewise, if someone is short and has a high body fat percentage, then they will more quickly go into the BBW/Big & Tall categories.

When looking at your body type, think first of how much body fat a person has, not of the doctor's charts. And when listing your own, think of how much body fat you have, rather than your own opinion of how you look.
 Tim0066

Joined: 7/2/2007
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Posted: 7/22/2007 1:10:16 PM
Well damn... I'm 5'3" and weigh 135-140... that makes me what? Obese? LOL

Those standard charts NEVER take into account muscle mass and body fat % which is the standards if you care about the "catagories"

All I care about is... do you look good/do I look good... period.

Why didn't you include the femal averages, just curious.
 Bene elim

Joined: 6/28/2007
Msg: 50
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Posted: 7/22/2007 1:13:51 PM
I assume that is an American show? I'm 176 lbs and I look really fat at the moment! I'm hoping to lose it all when I return from holiday in August and really get into shape though ;).
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