| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/25/2007 9:16:14 AM |
Posted By: happysinglegirl(d2050591) on 7/4/2006 12  43 PM Subject: Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight? Message: I was watching this very interesting show the other day that talks about weight and weight issues. All the info came from the WHO. Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
I know the difference between fat and not and working on it and not. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/25/2007 9:32:20 AM | If you use average as an adjective rather than a statistical measure, average in America means slightly overweight to fat ofr men and women.
This "average" adjective is open to many interpretations. There are many here who say they're average. and just as many who will say, "you're fat" and "you're fine".
I thought this was a semantics battle. And it is. Just not in the way I thought. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/25/2007 10:16:08 AM | Excuse me, Tango Girl, diabetes cannot be caused by trauma. Unless of course you are talking about a medical situation that put trauma on the pancreas in some way. Such as I know quite a few people who had their gallbladder removed & quite a few ended up getting type 2 diabetes sometime thereafter; however, the rest were fine.
There are many aspects that can cause diabetes; however, simple trauma is not one of them. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/3/2007 6:24:42 AM | Let me tell you- I am so angry right now. I just got an email from someone who tells me in one breath that I am very sexy and he'd love to go out with me. He must have read my previous post because he then proceeds to lecture me about how I am definitely not average and I should lose some weight and feel better about myself . I should also not blame men for being turned off because I have " a few extra pounds " listed in my profile.
I have lost 18 pounds since June & working losing 23 more. Where the H*LL do any of you b*stards think you have the right to email someone and lecture them this way? I have more class & intelligence in my pinky finger than this idiot does in his entire body and HE'S not fit to walk next to ME on the street. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/4/2007 11:11:18 PM | | Blonderedhead61, you go, girl! I just looked at your profile, you look great. He sounds like a piece of crap. I would NEVER tell anyone they had to change for me... that's just 43 different kinds of wrong. I would just look at another profile. You are right to be angry!! | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/5/2007 5:39:35 AM | You know what? POF should just have a question for weight....How much do you weigh? Answer: 165lbs......If they show up for the first meeting weighing in at 190 you know right away they lie to get dates.
In the "real world" dating scene one knows right away the others weight (unless a blind date was arranged).
I still am leaning toward the Twilight Zone episode where they HAD to marry the one the computer picked for them as their perfect match. Not really, but it would be interesting.
BTW, on a personal note, I have had at least five women in the last year who were talking with me on IM or phone and asked me how much I weighed and when I said 165, they stopped talking to me. Two of them even said "Wow, you're a slim man". Works the other way too, I guess....But, no big deal....Why would I want to continue any communication with them if they were feeling this way? | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/5/2007 5:56:51 AM | to the op .... the idea of ascribing obese overweight etc adjectives to a height for a weight is ludicrous  and where did that come from ?
For me it has to do with how much extra a person is carrying.... 
Some people are more muscular, some women have big boobs or a big frame.... | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/5/2007 10:42:42 AM |
Now apparently, the average male (30 – 39) is 5’11” tall and his weight should be 146 – 179 lbs to be considered average. 180-214lbs is considered overweight.
If they are over 215 lbs they are considered obese.
Whoever came up with this generalization didn't think it through to well.
It depends on muscle mass. Muscle is heavier then fat.
I am 5'11" 205 lbs and anything but overwieght or obese. I am in good physical condition from weight lifting, and naturally bulky without working out. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/5/2007 11:29:20 AM | http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
If you aren't a body builder/runner/straight up athlete, then this little calculator (Body Mass Index) is probably the most reliable way of telling if you are "normal." If you don't agree with this chart that's widely accepted by the scientific community, then you're lying to yourself. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/5/2007 4:56:24 PM | Blonderedhead61 the guys an idiot whoever he is, i just looked at yor profile, you look great.
As to the origonal question, i think both sexes tend to do it!. Its to avoid losing potential 'fish' i guess.
Personally, as long as a person isnt obese, or a complete starved looking stick insect..im not bothered. Theres much more important things to consider..besides weight can be lost or gained easily enough anyway!. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 8/5/2007 5:12:49 PM | have not looked at responses yet happysinglegirl.
many are in denial about what is average/healthy weight.
that goes for both sexes.
it is true that diabetes is up and more are having heart problems than ever existed 100 years ago when fast fatty foods where not as prevalent as they are at present.
i do concider myself in average range, but i admit to having developed the dreaded middle age bulge a few years back.
see men 10-20 years younger than myself with dunlops rolling over the beltling and dont understand them considering that average or healthy. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/17/2007 2:59:01 PM | I think the confusion is about definitions...doctors are taught from books and charts, but people look around them. I'm about average weight for my age when I go to Wal-Mart, on the small side at Friendly's, and a fattie at the gym. Yes, Americans are at health risk for heart disease, diabetes, stroke, and cancers because of our commercial diet. No, most individuals cannot believe they are personally at risk, because they go out and look around and feel average.
One issue is about disease statistics, and another is about personal attractiveness. They are not the same thing. By far most Americans watch TV, and get told that thin is normal and that eating fatty foods low in nutrition is also normal. So most men eat lots of standard not-food AND believe they "deserve" a standard - that is thin - woman!
My husband divorced me because after quitting smoking and having babies and getting older I got bigger. Apparently I prefer to live a well-fed life rather than be hungry and theoretically safer (and married). I've had men say No thanks when they see my photo - but other men like the cushy chest - some men even prefer a warm, intelligent, humorous, generous, non-judgmental partner to a slender one! The are rare but they do exist! You know who you are, bless your hearts! | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/17/2007 6:54:51 PM | OMG...
I'm 5'11 and have been the lightest I've been in over 10 years. At 203lbs I feel skinny and weak. I lost about 15lbs in the last 3 months. I feel emaciated. I DEFINITELY feel and look better at around 215-220,and I don't consider myself obese at all. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/17/2007 7:28:39 PM | I'm average because BMI measurements are crap if you don't have an average frame. I'm 5'11" and 225 lbs...but you find me someone who is ACTUALLY obese who can dance to heavy industrial for 3 hours straight and still have enough energy for other activities ;)
I eat right (usually) and exercise, my vital stats are EXCELLENT, but I have a body that was built to give and withstand punishment, not run a marathon.
A displacement test would give you a much better idea of body fat percentage, but that's expensive, not quick and easy like BMI...even if it is inaccurate.
And another thing...I know I could stand to lose another 10-15 lbs (which will come in time), but after seeing what some women call 'average' and 'a few extra lbs' I feel fully justified in calling myself average. :P
Though in truth I'm an assault class humanoid...just check my profile! :) | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/17/2007 7:44:00 PM | Blonderedhead61...the nerve of some of these toads. I have received similar emails, "concerned" men lecturing me about my "obesity." Shut the f*ck up...they are no more concerned about me as they are about the price of eggs in China.
Have your opinions, folks, but just because you have one, doesnt mean you need to shove it down someone's throat. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/18/2007 5:33:53 PM | You may need to go to the chart--the BMI chart and get the facts right...
If all you say is true--where do you find all of the average People?
It's said that 20% of America's people are now overweight and morbidly Obeses....
We have a problem that is spreading all over the world...Everyone is getting fat
There are many factors--one factor is technology and another is chemically laced foods | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/18/2007 7:41:40 PM | Search for a BMI calculator on the net to find the "average weight" for your partictular height.
BMI does not take muscle into consideration, it is possible to exceed the bmi index for your height and still have low body fat percentage...
This inability to recognize ones body type does not only affect men, women, especially on POF have the same problem admitting their Obesity.
(Hoping for around 180 to 190 in a few months.) Now considering my body fat percentage should stay around 10 to 12 %, am I overweight? What will I be then? Have you done the math yet? 12% of 190 is almost 23 lbs of fat...you decide..
Where the H*LL do any of you b*stards think you have the right to email someone and lecture them this way? I have more class & intelligence in my pinky finger than this idiot does in his entire body and HE'S not fit to walk next to ME on the street. " I do not think that word means what you think it means"(quote from my favorite movie) Is the above a classy response to what he wrote? | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/18/2007 9:45:22 PM | | Oh boy, could I go on about this topic...by the way, these forums are addicting....but at least my fat ass isn't eating as I type. While I would hope we all had enough class to just move on if we don't like a profile and save our opinions, there are those who will not. Quite frankly, I've lived a majority of my life hearing people's opinions on my weight. I guess if I hated it that much, I would have lost it, eh? I don't blame guys for not liking fat chicks - that is life, the media, blah blah blah, you know the drill. However, I would assume they also will not blame me when they don't get a chance with the nonfat version of me. I'm not happy with the way I look, and I am doing something about it. My problem with this site is that there have been so many people who have lied or said "average" and weighed 300 lbs that nobody knows what to believe. I always try to be AMAZINGLY CLEAR about my size. I find it funny how many guys try to talk me out of it, or try to sweet talk me with words about how I still look good, etc. LOL. So I take a good picture, I'm still fat fellas, let's keep it real here. Am I making a point? If not, the point is...we are humans, we run on basic human chemistry and if it isn't there, it IS NOT there - regardless of how much we would like to think or pretend otherwise. You know what question I want to pose - why is an ugly chick always still better than a fat chick? Oh wait, that is what the pillow is for...nevermind ;) | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/18/2007 10:12:36 PM | Men and women have two seperate mirrors.
Men look in the mirror and see Brad Pitt. They see a six pack where there is a keg. They see a chisled torso where there is sunken in rib bones. They see a young face where there is an old one. They have no clue what they really look like because frankly, a man's value is based on what he does, not what he looks like.
Women, OTOH, look in the mirror and see Medusa. They see Roseanne Barr hips where there are normal, womanly hips. They see small breasts where there are normal breasts. They see droopy breasts where there are large breasts that are shaped normally for their size. They see big noses where there are small ones, acne where none exists, wrinkles that are merely smile lines, etc. Of course women see this. We are bombarded with images of how we should look, our value is based on our beauty.
So well, some men will have no clue they are obese. They will think they are average when they are really just fat. Some women will know they are obese and will put "average" to get through men's filters because they know that at least they will have a chance at being looked at rather than immediately filtered out. And that is the game we play with each other.
Then there are those like myself that opt out and just choose honesty. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/19/2007 4:17:01 AM | We could put an end to this whole "average" thing by everyone posting a full picture of themselves with something else in the pic to compare your size to.....a garbage can, VW, truck.....something!!! We just need to be honest, honest with ourselves first and then honest with others.
We all have the desire to look better than we actually do and want to look better to others as well. This is why we post pics from the neck up.....BTW, I have to post neck up pics, I am 6'6" and you can't get all of me in one pic.  | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 9/19/2007 4:45:38 AM | Ideal weight isn't that simple, unfortunately. If you're at all athletic, BMI goes right out the window as an effective metric because muscle mass is denser than fat, so you can have a ridiculously low body fat % and still be considered obese.
It works both ways, too. I was at 185, people were always telling me I looked unhealthy, that I needed to gain a few pounds because I've got a lot of muscle mass in my legs so my body fat % was too low; I'm a distance cyclist. My brother was 160, but he looked unhealthy, because he was walking around with man boobs and a gut. | |
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