| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 3/27/2008 8:03:57 PM | ooh also like to add it isn't just men who misrepresent on their profiles Woman are guilty of it as well so lets be fair about that and not lay the blame solely on men only, it is a shared blame to be held equally by both sexes I say.
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 3/27/2008 9:08:49 PM |
Ya know men who say they only want a woman who is 120-140 and they themselves are overweight should really LOWER THEIR GOALS, Lord knows the woman who hooks up with him will!
Frankly, I'd rather stay single than lower my goals. I sure as hell wouldn't tell a large woman to lower her goals, either. Everybody deserves nothing less than a person that will be an excellent match for them. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 3/27/2008 9:13:34 PM |
Well that's just nuts. The WHO apparently wasn't taking a lot of things into consideration. Such as the fact that a man who works out with weight lifting is going to be heavier for his height than a man who doesn't. Muscle weighs more than fat. A 5'11" man can weigh 215 easily and be solid muscle and not have an ounce of fat on him. THAT is not "overweight," and it's sure as heck not "obese."
I get my bodyfat percentage tested every couple of months, and have calculated my lean mass. If you were to remove every ounce of body fat from my body, I would weigh about 180-190 pounds, which is still in the "overweight" range. In other words, I would be considered "overweight" even if I didn't have so much as an ounce of fat on my body. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 3/27/2008 11:02:06 PM | Orignal poster....the BMI index is the most retarded thing ever made.
I'm 5-10 and I weigh between 185 to 190 depending. That makes me overweight. Do I look overweight to you? Same can be said about guys who are bodybuilders or lift alot that are heavier. I know plenty of guys too that are like 150 but they are skinny fat. Why should weight matter? Body fat % should matter comparative to muscle mass don't you think? | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/5/2008 9:45:56 AM | | this is probably the one double standard that favours men. i don't understand why someone would not want to look after themselves and look good. of course how you carry your weight makes quite a difference too, muscle weighs more. before i started doing a few things to shape up i weighed the same but had another 2" on my waist. yikes! | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/5/2008 10:59:58 AM |
I was watching this very interesting show the other day that talks about weight and weight issues. All the info came from the WHO.
Now apparently, the average male (30 – 39) is 5’11” tall and his weight should be 146 – 179 lbs to be considered average. 180-214lbs is considered overweight.
If they are over 215 lbs they are considered obese.
What really concerned me was the fact that, unless they were in the morbidly obese category, most of the men (who were in fact obese) on this show thought that they were “average”.
Since obesity is the cause of type 2 diabetes and is a major player in heart disease and stroke, I was concerned enough to post this.
Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Do most women? I wouldnt say this is a male problem, this is a people problem. However you cannot base everything on weight. By your estimations most pro athletes are obese. the telling tale is the BMI. In my younger years in the Navy i was 6'4" 220 pounds and had 3% body fat but by those simplistic standards you tossed up I was obese | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/5/2008 11:01:17 AM | Hmm......Iam not really sure about mine.
Iam 5ft 7, I was 173 pounds......felt i was a little bit heavy.
I now weigh 157 pounds and feel great.....but Iam not sure if Iam in the average range or slim range...
I thank god Iam not in the overweight/ obese range.....as I have 2 young kids I want to see grow to maturity...
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/5/2008 12:22:52 PM | | These days obesity in both sexes is epidemic in North America. Today's average weight may be an average weight currently but it is not a normal or healthy weight. Just look at photos of people in the 40's, 50's and 60's and compare them to photos of people today. The clothing industry may have some statistics available since they must "build to suit" or their products do not sell. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/5/2008 12:38:17 PM | ^ Lot of truth to that.
I've noticed concert shirt sizes have actually gone up in the last 15 years.
The first band shirts I ever bought in junior high were large. Then as I got older, I started noticing large didn't seem to fit me anymore. It was eventually just too big, and I had to switch to medium. I thought maybe I had just lost some weight I wasn't aware of until I ordered an old vintage shirt off of Ebay a few years ago in medium, mistakenly thinking it would be the same size as the mediums I've been wearing in recent years. The damn thing was way too small.
So after pulling out all my old shirts and comparing them to my more recent shirts, it became pretty obvious that everything had gone up a size. What used to be large is now medium. What used to be XL is now large. Everything has gotten bigger because people (particularly in America) have just gotten fatter. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/6/2008 1:29:29 AM | It depends on the setting and circumstances, but I will focus my opinion on men online and putting average as a descriptor in their profile.
You have limited choices in trying to describe yourself online, it goes from athletic-average-few extra lbs... Each of these descriptions come with their own connotations. Athletic generally denotes you really take care of your body, very active, six pack abs, and like to offer tickets to the gun show, or gym rat. Few extra lbs is generally seen, interpreted, and inferred as morbidly obese, huge gut and no neck, almost needing a lil rascal to get around (not in reality, I reiterate only to general connotations to the descriptor for online profiles). Therefore I believe (and I follow) if you have a neck, can see your shoes, are perfectly mobile with your own two legs, can go for a walk without an oxygen tank, and your body is the product of an average lifestyle (no gym, but no sublimating emotions with food), then it must look average.
I remember when BBW used to mean big black woman. Of topic but I thought I would throw that in for free. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/6/2008 12:25:12 PM | I have read that there is a lot of growth hormone being put into animal feed and that this causes adult humans to put on fat very easily and causes girls to develop breasts much earlier than they used to. So unless you're a vegetarian it is going to be a real battle to avoid putting on excess fat after you stop using growth hormone to grow taller (after age 20 or so).
I've always been slim, but I moved from an area with locally grown chicken and beef that was not exposed to growth hormone feed to an area where the food is more factory farm produced, and for the first time in my life I actually have to watch what I eat. I noticed a small tire developing around my waist after just 6 months here! In the last 6 months I've had to become very careful about avoiding any beef other than Niman Ranch and any chicken not clearly labelled Free Range. Makes it tougher to eat out, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let myself become overweight.
My BMI is about 20 and I intend to keep it that way (5'8" and 120 lbs.), even though I now have to put a little thought into it, whereas previously I always took it for granted. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/7/2008 2:51:02 PM |
Search for a BMI calculator on the net to find the "average weight" for your partictular height.
The BMI indicator is a crock of shite.
I readily admit I'm overweight. However, at the peak of my fitness I was 6' and 215lbs. I had a six-pack and 6% body fat and was playing inside linebacker for a division II college.
According to the BMI matrix I was borderline obese. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/7/2008 3:02:23 PM | The "Body Mass Indicator" was created in the 1800's by a guy who never intended to find an "ideal" weight-to-height ratio. It was not created for the purpose that it now serves. The number it gives you when you enter your height and weight is a perfectly valid number...but it means nothing. There is no "ideal" weight that applies to all people of a certain height.
Fat people are fat. Skinny people are skinny. There are a lot of different shapes and sizes between "fat" and "skinny" that are healthy; there are some that are not. There are healthy "fat" people. There are unhealthy "skinny" people. This is all beyond obvious.
I have no idea why people see it as a public service to start threads warning people that they could be fat and not even know it! It's such bullsh-t. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/7/2008 6:01:10 PM |
I have no idea why people see it as a public service to start threads warning people that they could be fat and not even know it! It's such bullsh-t.
Heh! Funniest thing I read all day, except the thing about your pet "monster". | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/7/2008 6:05:36 PM | Average weight computation:
Total weight of all women
-------------------------------- = average weight of women
Number of women
Yes, we know what constitutes average weight.
Now, when you compare the average weight of American women with Brazilian women... | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/8/2008 4:38:58 AM | There is a difference between the BMI referenced in these posts and "average weight". The BMI is calculating "normal" or "healthy" weight, not average. Here in the States the "average" is way too high. Average in the States is well into what the BMI would deem "overweight" and headed toward the O-zone.
The women I have met who said they were "average" were accurate, and I have learned that I am interested in BMIs of 18 to 24.9.
Perhaps POF could add a field for "What is you BMI?" as a public service.
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 5/8/2008 7:02:41 AM | I don't know what "average" means in dating speak
technically it's the mean of all women divided by the number of women... so it's relative.
I think "average" means a healthy weight and bmi for your bone structure
I can only compare my own.. I'm 5'4" and 123... but I bounce between 117 and 135, depending on the time of year and my activity level. I'm slight boned.. my best friend is 5' 3" and averages about 145, but she isn't fat, she is quite athletic. Her bone structure is larger than mine. I haven't done my bmi, but I'm sure I'm over because I just went through a Canadian winter and I'm a wuss, I don't get out much when it's minus 25º C.
Weight is relative.. and it doesn't really mean much... it's fat opposed to muscle mass that counts and women will always have more fat than men because WE ARE BUILT TO STORE FAT.. it's a survival, childbearing thing.
Most of the women in the media have way less body fat than is healthy for a woman in her childbearing years. I had a six-pack tummy once.. and the amount of work to maintain that messed with my menstrual cycle... my doc told me to lay off a bit.. as it was messing with my hormonal levels.
However, from reading the "curvy vs. slim" thread I have come to see that men ARE appreciative of women's natural shapes... and that the "super thin model" thing really isn't what they want in a partner... but maybe they'd like it in their porn! LOL So I think there is a skewed concept of what most men really think about women, and they way we are built.. I blame the media. Having bartended in strip clubs I can assure women that men are FAR more forgiving of our 'flaws" than we are.. they just want to see us naked, scars and all.
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