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Posted: 7/24/2007 1:11:29 AM | But why should it be any??? This whole harley thing has gotten on my nerves.....I know guys who couldn't get a date to save their lives..........until they got a harley, well and of course their leathers..........
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Posted: 7/24/2007 3:19:36 AM | | I don't know how we got on motorcycles, but for some women there is a certain allure to a guy on a motorcycle and the "bad boy" stigma that goes with it. Personally I have always liked taking long rides on the back of a bike, but it has nothing to do with them being a "bad boy" and I won't date a guy just because he has one. And in my opinion, if a guy gets one to become a "wanna be bad boy" to get dates, that make him just as bad as the women who only date guys that have one. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2007 12:07:57 PM | I'm not quite sure how the subject of motorcycles came up either unless it was the reference to "bad boys". Not every guy who drives a Harley is a "bad boy" and every "bad boy" doesn't neccessarily have a Harley. I do love to ride myself but there's no way I would date someone just because they have a motorcycle. They have to have a personality that I like as well and believe it or not there are some nice guys out there that ride Harleys. Oops better shut up before I ruin someone's "badass image". Hahaha he knows who he is but maybe I'll be lucky and not get caught saying that. Oh well it's not like it's the first time I'll be in trouble an I'm sure it won't be the last. But anyway my point is don't judge a book by it's cover. You might be surprised when you look at the whole package.  | |
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Posted: 7/26/2007 10:39:08 PM | | I have to go back to Nosemints post and say that it was very insightful of him. It is difficult to start in relationships with children along, but all successful relationships are when the couple put each other first. That doesn't mean to neglect the children. If there is a loving bond between the couple, then the child or children benefit from 2 loving people looking out for them. A step parent needs to learn how to judge the situation. They are not "new" parents or replacement parents, but more of "deputy" parents in supporting the original parents in raising the children. The children NEED to learn to respect the step parent as well. When a parent tells their significant other to keep "their hands off" of their child, they are driving a wedge between themselves and their significant other AND teaching the child to be dismissive of other people's feelings. This is a bad mix. I know. I saw this in how my ex was raised with his step father. It also opens up enmeshment issues as the parent then bonds more or "allies" with the child and the child becomes an emotional spousal substitute. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 10:58:57 AM | Back to the bikes, I used to ride a bike, back in the day that riding a bike meant you were different and you took the crap that came with riding...
I quit riding 15 years ago when it began not being about riding bikes but a FREAK"IN FASHION SHOW... sorry I just needed to say that for all the pretty boys out there and the girls that hang on... | |
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Posted: 8/17/2007 9:02:16 AM | | I have three kids and if one of my children acted like that...even if we were only friends...i would hope you would yell. Why would any one allow their children to walk all over some body like that and show such obvious disrespect is beyond me. Take a look at the mother and you will see the children and vice versa. My kids have two dads. One real that hasn't seen or talked to the in 7 years and my ex boyfriend who lived with us for two years and they still call him dad, he still comes around, and if he didn't yell at the kids for doing something boneheaded i would yell at him! | |
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Posted: 8/19/2007 12:55:25 PM | You know after reading the initial thread, I was thinking, aw wait a minute, have you not met the kids before you moved in to gether? Had you not talked about the package deal situation? Sounds more to me like, "a steady piece, live in".
"LADIES", and men need to comunicate these issues from the get go! If you are aware
that children are involved and it's not your intentions to eccept that fact, well why would you even bother!
As for the use of what I concider poor words, IE., women, broads!
I feel that LADY is the proper term to be used!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 8/21/2007 11:27:20 AM | >>> Are women ALL INSANE nowadays????
In short, yes. 
And, it's been awhile. In my early 20's, I first noticed it. After being out of it for awhile, and coming back, I can say it's worse.
Some women's profiles are so flat out nasty, I don't know why any decent man would reply. In fact, it's probably *why* they are so nasty -- only the game-players, superficial, and super-egos do apply, and it just cycles and spirals downwards.
A few profiles on some systems have been so nasty, I had to respond just because I was so flat out insulted. One I just responded to on another system was so nasty, I feel like reporting it. It's one thing to state your wants/likes... it's another be insulting, rude, and offensive about it.
As for a woman with kids --- *YES* the kids *are* part of the relationship. I have seen things like "I'm not looking for a dad for my kids, they have one." ... then, what *are* you looking for? You can't separate out the kids from the relationship, especially if they are in the house. Maybe, the woman needs to wait for the kids to grow up, get out of the house, enter her 40's and *THEN* find out just how nasty their profiles were -- KARMA -- it can be a **** ;)
In relationships -- don't settle. If you see this sort of problem, then RUN ... don't walk. There's a reason why she's divorced with kids....
I've dated women with kids. My last relationship was like that. And special needs (foster/adoptive) to boot. BOTH parents have to provide a unified front. And that goes for ALL ADULTS in the house -- biologic and foster/adoptive/step parents, or the kids play one off against the other. And, it becomes a nightmare.
Obviously this is a peeve of mine ... :)
Also, a woman who has kids, and suggests the first meeting be in a bar, for drinks...
I usually suggest McD's or Chuck E Cheeses. If the kids are older, maybe the park or Carnegie. If they can't show me their kids, and want to get drunk, I already see a problem. What's safer than a McD's or CEC ?
Anyway... it's a rainy day, and seems to be one of the more negative ones :(
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Posted: 8/21/2007 12:00:30 PM | ummm body artist...speak for yourself...not all women are insane.
not all women are flat out nasty, players, or anything of the sort.....maybe they're the way they are because you're not smiling and they don't want to talk to someone that doesn't look cheerful.
when women say that they're not looking for dads for their kids it's because they DO have their own dads...just not full time. i know, i for one wouldn't want any man beating my son or yelling at him. my 2nd ex did that with my older son as well as threw him into the front door bruising his back from the doorknob. a man outside of the family (blood) can be a good friend to the kids without being a father figure right away. the man and woman can grow into a relationship faster than a child and the absent parent.
i don't agee with you with what you said......
In relationships -- don't settle. If you see this sort of problem, then RUN ... don't walk. There's a reason why she's divorced with kids.... there are many reasons why couples are no longer together...even with kids. you have physical abuse on the partner or children, you have mental abuse on the partner or children, you have adultry......need i say more?
now, when a child plays one against the other...that's the child testing you, they're trying to find out if you would say yes and mommy say no or vice versa...they also tend to do that for attention.
as for women wanting to meet you in a bar or something....some women would rather not have their children get involved right away since childrens minds can be easily confused at times. it's the woman's preference......if you don't like it then walk away.
oh and if you're going to be a big crybaby and report women that you feel are insulting...why be here? why contact them in the first place?
you see........not all women are insane.....women just have their preferences with whom they wish to talk to, whom they wish to have their children around and when to introduce them into the relationship.
there are plenty of men that are insulting as well...............i personally find a lot of men insulting when they start talking sexually to me...what ever happened to talking as friends first? i'm not a toy...i'm not to be played with and if someone's going to play with my mind then he better expect to be played upon as well.....trust me, i can play if i wanted to. | |
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Posted: 8/21/2007 12:47:20 PM | ok guys will try to help you out so you don't think woman are insane.
9 WORDS WOMAN USE AND THEIR REAL MEANINGS
1 FINE- THIS IS THE WORD WOMAN USE TO END AN ARGUMENTWHEN THEY ARE RIGHT AND YOU NEEDTO SHUT UP.
2. FIVE MINUTES-IF SHE IS GETTING DRESSED, THIS MEANS A HALF AN HOUR. FIVE MINUTES IS ONLY FIVE MINUTS IF YOU HAVE JUST BEEN GIVIN FIVE MORE MINUTES TO WATCH THE GAME BEFORE HELPING AROUND THE HOUSE.
3.NOTHING---THIS IS THE CALM BEFORE THE THE STORM.this means something,and you should be on your toes.Arguments that begin with nothing usually end in fine.
4----GO AHEAD This is a dare,not permission Don't Do It!!!!!!
5----LOUD Sigh This is actually a word,but is a non-verbal statement often
misunderstood by men.A loud sigh means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you about nothing.(Refer back # 3 forthe meaning of nothing).
6----That's Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women can make to a man.That's okay means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.
7----Thanks: A woman is thanking you, do not question,or faint. JUst say "you're welcome".
8---Whatever: is a woman's way of saying go to.........!.
9---Don't worry about it I got it:Another dangerous statement, meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times,but is now doing it herself.This will later result in a man asking "What's wroung"? for the woman's response refer to #3.
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Posted: 8/21/2007 1:23:05 PM | Sweetie I think you just proved the guys point of view for them but I love it lol. 
Oh ya, you did forget "Yes Dear" which usually means ok babe I'll agree with you just to shut you up. Hehe | |
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Posted: 8/21/2007 1:39:41 PM | can some one tell me what normal is? i be a girl any day then a guy they have no problem hangingthere thing out to pee for all to see like they where raise with out a bathroom in there home most of them great with guns aimimg, but not with the peter they lift the sit for that and still off. think is so funny when the fart.or burp from beer. foot ball i never figue that one out for the life of me. but as much as they **** they still come after us ladies if they are so unhappy woth us, i'm not stoping them from being gay. all in good fun. : | |
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Posted: 8/21/2007 2:01:30 PM | ponygirl ... oh, forgot, the (tm) ... you proved my point. Thank you :)
And the examples you gave, just proved how crazy women *really* are... beating and bruising, and such. Wow. You really hate men, don't you.
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Posted: 8/21/2007 2:19:38 PM | >> think is so funny when the fart.or burp from beer. foot ball i never
>> figue that one out for the life of me.
Ever been around a group of teenage girls????
>> can some one tell me what normal is?
That's a loaded question. After being on-line for almost 23 years, from about 1983, when I got my first IBM PC/xt at a blazing 4.77 megahertz ..... and a 1200 baud modem..... "normal" isn't on-line. People are not virtual or computer or video personnas. On-line, they are not who they really are (just look at the thread on lying about age/weight/etc) Multiply that by everything else...
You can find _friends_ on-line, because it cuts through the bullshit, and gets to the facts -- love bad movies, peewee herman, sushi, d&d, etc.... you can find common grounds. But, love, relationships, etc have to be _IN_PERSON_ because we are real, physical people and most of what makes us attracted to others is sight, sound, smell, not pixels on a screen. It takes more for people to forge an attraction, and then a relationship, than simple emails. Real life is not the same as on-line -- ever.
On-line has always been a business to me. My "job" has involved a lot of hours on-line, running forums, running websites, running BBS's, etc. It wasn't really how I spent my free time. That was spent in the real world, with real people, going out, seeing the sun, whatever - getting AWAY from the on-line. So, I always had the best of both. Being on-line and being off-line.
But, remember, while there are things that make good relationships, and things that are true about what it takes to find real love __statistically__ at least, there are always exceptions, and *EVERY* relationship is different. What you are looking for is not what someone else is looking for -- and the person your best friend may find to fill up their life, will not do the same for you (even if you think they might). The "spark", "chemistry", "whatever" is not there.....
I've made a lot of friends on-line, but "loves" have all be off-line. I have had one on-line relationship that went into more than a friendship, maybe what the kids today call friends with benefits, but it didn't blossom beyond that. What we had was a friendship based on common interests, conversation, etc. Not a love interest, or in-love feeling. We thought it might, but it wasn't. After almost 20 years, we are still friends. And good ones. fortunately the trial of "benefits" didn't ruin that.
How many of you met "interesting" people on-line, you thought would work, but when you met, there was *NOTHING* (or worse!!). How many of them did you stop talking to after meeting?
Normal....??
It's what works for you.
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Posted: 8/21/2007 2:41:19 PM | i'm sorry body but i don't feel as if i proved "your" point.
women are NOT crazy, women are NOT insane.....not all women anyway.
i don't hate men, i have no reason to hate them.....some men as well as some women can be physicall and mentally abusive towards others....as you seen, i said SOME.
women and men are alike in more ways than you might think of.....there are players of both genders, physical abusers of both genders, and mental abusers of both genders. is a woman insane because of her preferences? NO! just as a man is not insane of his preferences either.
i've talked to a few single full time dads that has sole custody of their children or even widowed and raising their kids on their own. believe it or not, they'd also much rather NOT bring a new woman around their children just as SOME women choose not to bring a man around their children. a child's mind is most GULLABLE (sp), EASILY TWISTED, and EASILY CONFUSED more than an adolesent's mind can be. my younger son never knew his real father and called my 2nd ex "daddy". my 2nd ex has been around my son from the beginning since the age of 1 1/2 years and even though i told him about his real father he still thought of my ex as his dad. now with my separation with my ex, my son seems to only listen to what my ex tells MY son. he's done that from day 1 of our separation. i love my boys with all of my heart, my older son knows how my ex is and my younger son denies the fact of my ex being abusive. do you see how easily twisted a child's mind can get? at the time of the separation my younger son was 9 years old. for 4 years + my ex has been feeding my son's mind with poison to turn him against me....poison that is harmful to not only him but to me as well. that's ONE reason why single parents rather NOT bring an outsider into their family immediately. that's why a single parent would rather NOT introduce their children to their s.o. right away.
were as physical and mental abuse is concerned.....a single parent has to spend time ALONE to get to know their s.o. thoroughly. they need to find out all there is to find out about them. they need to find out just how abusive they may be and if they're living on a short fuse. single men and women alike would NOT want to bring their children into a relationship if their s.o. is going to fly off the handle because the dishes weren't done immediately or if they left a few crayons or toys on the floor. now, it's not just where the children are concerned.....a woman would not want to be with a man that's physically abusive towards her (strangulation, striking, kicking, pushing) just as a man wouldn't want that of a woman. with the mental abuse....NAME CALLING can be the most scaring to anyone whether it be a man or woman. you tell me one woman that likes to be called a "cvnt" or one man that likes to be called a "pr1ckless b*stard" and i'll be the first to call you a liar....unless they get off on the name calling. then you have the LIES. a man or a woman would tell their s.o. one thing but tell other people a different story. then you have the HEAD GAMES when someone says "oh, i told you that i promised that i was going to call you or be there at 6pm to pick you up for dinner" then turn around and say "i never told you what time i was going to call you or be there....what are you talking about?"
i personally don't find that ALL WOMEN ARE INSANE just as i don't find that ALL MEN ARE INSANE....it's just their preferences to being cautious to protecting themselves along with protecting their loved ones.
again, do i HATE men? NO! HATE is such a STRONG word. i have a HEART to LOVE, i have NO INTERNAL ORGANS called HATE. i can tell you something else though....i DO have a back bone and i will not take NO SHYT off any man. | |
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Posted: 8/21/2007 5:12:02 PM | You have proved my point, and continue to do so. Look at the words you use "poison"... simply paranoid.
But, I just got an invite to a pig roast (?) maybe we can debate this in person at that time.
When my kids were young, I took them everywhere when I went out. Didn't matter. Usually 1 at a time when really little. They were/are a part of my life. I didn't leave them behind, or need to get away from them.
What could be safer, faster, and more revealing than a quick trip to McD's. The kids wouldn't even notice anything, and if there was chemistry, then it makes sense to plan something later on. It's a very public place, and not threatening. People have kids there all the time, and there are kids everywhere, and parents too, so the argument about all that cr*p happening is just that. crap. One more excuse for lies, double lives, hidden agendas and other untruths that lead to eroding a relationship. If you work, and have kids, and have to meet people or pass off stuff, McD's is a great place to do it.
If you went to a group picnic with your kids, and met someone there, you wouldn't talk to them, or hang out with them because the kids would get somehow messed up? I'm rolling on the floor. Same idea. You want to leave your kids behind, fine... but don't make up excuses for it. If you don't feel you can bring your kids, it's probably not a good idea in the first place -- with or without them.
Heck, if my kids were school age, and a potential date didn't want to meet at McD's or CEC's... I'd have issues with *that*. I don't leave my kids behind to get laid, which is what seems to be going on eg: can't "get lucky" with the kids around. Getting lucky would be finding a woman who fit in, loved the kids, and wanted to do it again, for longer.  Different standards I guess. Once you are together, the kids are going to be there... deal with it from the start.
BTW: I've read posts and profiles for the past 2 months on a lot of systems before posting here, so I've got a lot of reading and thinking about this (relationships/dating) behind me. A lot of what I'm saying now, is what I didn't say at those times, and might not be exactly to something posted in this thread.
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Posted: 9/4/2007 5:42:55 PM | | Wow dude , what kind of women are ya'll dating ? The only way i would think a man is getting too clingy and would want distance is if it's only been a few weeks after meeting and he declares his undying love for me . Lust happens quickly , love happens a lot slower . Now don't get me wrong , lust can be great , it just doesn't last like real love does .As far as women being insane ? Heck life can make ANYONE that way if we let it . | |
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Posted: 9/4/2007 6:02:23 PM | yep , and these are all the guys who are looking for 20 somethings who don't have a functioning brain cell or a lick of ambition . You ladies know what kind of woman i am talking about . Badboys ? Baby let me tell ya , they don't need harleys to make them bad . I have met some that looked like everyday joes and were still useless players and users , not to mention abusers . I have also met some fellas that you would never know they rode until you saw them at a poker run or a motorcycling event . I'll take a nice fella over a "bad boy" any day . | |
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Posted: 9/4/2007 6:09:20 PM | | I agree with you ponygrl , I was a divorcee with a child . Not because I played , but because he was a mentally abusive A** . after 7 years of taking his crap I finally realized that i WAS a beautiful human being that DID have worth . So i walked out and asked for nothing but mine and my childs clothes , the car (which i bought and was in my name) and my child , whom i was not about to let be raised by such a mentally abusive person as my ex. In short , he did such a job on me that i truly believed i would never find someone as long as i was a single mom with a small child . Imagine his surprise when I found a wonderful man who would accept me and my child as a package deal . | |
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Posted: 9/4/2007 7:04:59 PM | Amen to that I hear ya there!!! So many men out there believe that we will not leave them if we are led to believe that there is no one else out there who will love us. Hate to tell the abusive men that they are dead wrong. I'd rather have a nice guy myself and I got lucky- but then again so did he!  | |
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Posted: 9/11/2007 4:12:23 AM | Not all are insane, just emotional works of art. When i date a woman with a child.. I do not try to meet their child or have the woman meet my children. untill about month 3-6 of a strong relationship. yes I will talk about all children involved b4 they ever meet, exchange ideas on diff. things involving children but there is no need for a child to get attached to some person who may not be there next week. I'm not out to be the father to other children who already have dad's I have no problem helping them to become good adults. and hopefuly guiding them in good up coming.
to all the single parent male or female.. Just remember. your kids future is more important than the fun your having next weekend. If I have to go single for the next 20 yrs just so my girls can have a stable father in their lives It's what i'll have to do. | |
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Posted: 9/11/2007 9:29:35 AM | Nope, we are not ALL insane.
I for one am NOT opposed to my boyfriend/partner correcting my child. I am fairly strict and I do spank when needed. I have never had an issue with the man I'm committed to correcting my child.
Now once, I DID feel that the guy lost his temper and spanked too hard, in that case he was forbidden to ever spank the child again, but he was still able to correct the child in other ways. Men are usually more effective with their voice (than woman) anyway, so I could see if a woman did not want the man to spank, but she is an IDIOT if she NEVER CORRECTS her KIDS. SOMEONE needs to teach them, and if she won't, she's NOT worth it.
As far as dating...
I will not introduce my child to ANY man that I am dating until we are in a committed relationship. If we are just casually dating you won't meet my kid, and you won't even know if my kids a boy or girl unless I slip up and tell you on a date. I protect my child from this "dating" stuff, however I do understand that if we are getting serious then it's about time to meet my child.
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Posted: 9/13/2007 3:25:41 PM | I get your point on this cause I've lived through and am living through what you are talking about. But even with that being said I don't think I would paint ALL women with the title of being insane. I think the biggest problems for good men looking for a good lady is the law of nature that says opposites attract. I don't know about you but almost every time I see a women that I would classify as a good women she is on the arm of a guy who treats her like a jerk but hes the "tuff guy the alpha male" shes puts up with it, knows hes wrong for it but at the end of the day she ain't leaving him for none thing, but she will stay in your ear and complain about him all day if you let her.
Then on the guys side of the things, its seems to me kind of woman I bond with the best are the kind that anyone would love and thats just the problem. They are great to hang around, and maybe be friends with but aren't ready for a true monogamous relationship. And if a attractive women doesn't want to settle down we all know she won't have to. Which leaves us guys in a pickle do we start acting like jerks in order to get the good women (oh my God I hope not) or do we keep being ourselves and get ignored and looked passed by the good women. (Equally painful) If you come up with a solution to that let me know. | |
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