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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 7:19:56 AM | | Nothing happened to them except you can't see past your own nose. Imagine that your mood affects your outlook, and then if you notice you are in a bad mood of some kind, distrust what your outlook shows. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 7:20:56 AM | | At least from a female perspective, I know that unconditional love ended when most women realized that no, you do not have to stay with someone who treats you bad. Many years ago women felt required to stay with a man who cheated, lied, abused them mentally, physically, etc. Now they leave. My husband has a "good wife's guide" from the 1950's he likes to show me (as a joke of course) from time to time. It is horrible. Never question his motives if he stays out all night, it is none of your business. When he comes home have the children dressed nice and keep them quiet, bring him a drink in his favorite chair, lower the lights and move the children to another room so they do not disturb him. Always remember his wants come before your needs. Ahh...the joys of unconditional love!!! | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 9:44:26 AM | Ok this gives a bit more info. "I" wouldnt call being a considerate or a giving person to someone I love or care for as having "Unconditional Love".
I too have been in a situation where I met someone and we at first thought we had something. On the 3rd date she asked how long do I do that. Do what? Be nice. I didnt know what she was talking about.
Turns out she had previously been a series of abusive relationships. She honestly didnt believe she deserved to be treated this way or know how to cope with common courtesy, compliments and expressions of honest emotion. She just didnt believe it. Needless to say after a few more dates she ran. Last I heard is after a few more dates she is now with a guy who treats her like dirt and she is crying on her friend's shoulders "Why does this always happen to me" I dont know if this is the case for you or not, but perhaps it is a posibility.
In my case we may or may not have made it, but it was a dumb reason to not succeed. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 2:19:16 PM | Where did the unconditonal love go, did we kill it along with christ? Are there no more real people around? ~sighs~ Anyone have any thoughts on the subject?
WE CAN CALL US MORE IMMATURE, BUT I think it is NEW KNOWLEGE being handed down daily. It seems that we people protect ourselves more and more. We don't share anymore and hide our assets behind prenuptual agreements; we safe guard our secrets and live a separate secret identity/life from our 3rd, 4th, 5th wives so we don't get betrayed; and on the flip side:
We become better at it too. We know that we can't control each other like before; we work at becoming better spouses in mixed blended families; we as a society understand the importance of making love and satisfying the woman in the bedroom, etc.
BOTTOM LINE : We are becoming more educated by the internet and communication and the media on the pit falls of union of man and woman so we are protecting ourselves more. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 2:33:17 PM | | Morals squashed unconditional love. When you love unconditionally, you don't care of morals. You don't judge, and know that even a percieved enemy needs love. Hate won't heal him. When morals die, ethics will rain.... With a sun still shinin thru. If you want to see unconditionality, start with yourself and spread it. To those without it. Love those who don't love, if you really believe in unconditional love. To do otherwise is to believe in free speech, but hush those who say something you don't like..... | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 2:45:59 PM | "It died in the mythical 1950s, back when the grass was always green, people were always nice, wives were always faithful, and the world always looked like a brand new day"
Careful there molonel...back then men were content to stay home and read a book after supper or fix the leaky faucet in the upstairs bathroom. Weren't men always faithful back then too?? | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 3:06:00 PM | (They, like Santa Claus, never existed: but they make a lovely children's fairy tale.)
Santa exist as an idea. Ideas are real.......... So's love tho no jar or test tube can measure it. The world you live in, is not solid. It's made up of so called particles that exist in more than one place at a time.... and, occupy little space.... What you consider real, is as material as a thought. It's a real illusion. Things aren't always as they seem tho. Santa, in some ways is more real and lives on more than you and I, in terms of value. No, not quantity. The same way love does. Pity Santa doesn't exist, yet it influences the lives of many, more than you and I ever will. How's nothing beating us? Because it is rather than isn't.
When people consider what they think isn't real, as real, that is when what people consider real, takes on new meaning. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 3:54:50 PM | Well,
MORALS VS SEX THE NEW GOD AND CAREER, HIS ARCHANGEL and MONEY his Pimp.
The way I see it, it began with women wanting to be like men and do the bad, thoughtless, insenstive things men did routinely - like cheat- yet still expect some poor fool to be slobbering all over them....
And with men who thought it was best to do their thing while condemning women for doing the same- you know the things I mean - beat up on each other, cheat on wives, tear an associate apart at work - not with gossip - men dont gossip, do they - just with a careful word in the right ear...at the bar after work..not gossip..not really, just man talk
And mixed in with the man talk, the usual blah blah of what great sexual athletes they were - in full hearing of the very women whom they want to believe in them ( the men) So women became very nervous of this type of guy and decided not to take them seriously - all men.
And with sex becoming much more important than the person- so we check out boob size and penis size and buy sex toys, because the person, the body of the so called "Loved one" is never going to be good enough for all of us sexual athletes,
And with everyone having to have a career ( I have one, so I understand) and everyone thinking of their own selves "I am so perfect..my apartment is cool, my cooking is great, my personality is fantastic, so what if I have zits, mine are bigger than everyone else's and my dog is trained, she poops gold, my thoughts are the only ones, so I cant hook up with a partner until I am at least 30, I dont want to give up my great (lonely) lifestyle, and raise ( OH GOD! CHILDREN!!) So not a normal thing to do, and I cant afford the time, the loss of body, the stretch marks, or in the case of men - cant afford the comitment, the earning of more money, the responsiblitiy..
And then with people not wanting children at all because they interfere with SEX, the new GOD..and children bind people together, but we would all rather live with our computers and be online than have a real moment with a real person.
We are all so full of it! IT being our precious SELF! What is so wrong with buying a red sofa even if you'd prefer beige - no, that is not compromise,you say, it is giving in..so we are still at WAR with men?- why can't a family sit at table together for meals on even 3 days of the week..because of the CAREER!
And then there are SO many things that we are RELIGIOUS about...(except religion which we are always trying to cut to fit)
NO smoking ( ok that's good because smoking is bad- but where do you get off destroying a whole relationship over a cigarette -both sides)
No toenail cutting
No long hairs in the bath
Toilets seats - up or down?
Toilet paper - white or colored?
Dish washing - utensils up or down in the drainer?
Men in undershirts
Men in smoking jackets and slippers
Who drives
Garbage - who takes it out?
Does the 18 year old get a car? Wait, did I say 18, but you said 16?
Fact is, we all know too much, have too many opinions, are convinced we are right, are always seeking to WIN THE INVISIBLE WAR, with the BOSS, the BOYFRIEND, the WIFE, the CAR, that we have no time to enjoy life...
REVELATION:
We will all die in our apartments, and a lucky fire will have the Fire Department discovering our rotted, lonely, great sex life until we turned 60 bodies, at which time some surly relative - grandchild maybe if we managed to suffer through a few years of SACRIFICIAL marriage- will reluctantly come forward to claim the remains and bury us in an unmarked grave.
Where have all the flowers gone? Long time passing. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/9/2006 4:00:54 PM | I am satan. It's kinda like santa. Same letters. Cum shit on my lap little twirls. I have a pitch fork that I can eat with.
Usually, when one asks what happened to morals, they have their head stuck in yesterday. Progress comes from doing things differently.... Maybe yesterday belongs there. Perhaps, one gets with today and instead of bringing back the old, they make a days of the new, by refering to what hasn't been done yet. Just maybe. I trust the universe and it's method of the illusion of time, over dogma from given individuals. Things aren't devolving because of new minds, but because of ones who want to bring back the past. IE BUSH. And I aint speaking of p u s s y, but of one. Vagina is not but an inspiration over the wussies that are in control. Someday, we'll have a black women as prez. I can't wait. I hope she is a lez too. Oh, our world will be destroyed indeed. Which is a good thing. You peps that want it to stay the same are fukin us up. Oh well. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/10/2006 12:24:00 AM |
Careful there molonel...back then men were content to stay home and read a book after supper or fix the leaky faucet in the upstairs bathroom. Weren't men always faithful back then too?? - hugmetighter
I would be shocked - SHOCKED, I say - at the implication that men were anything but faithful, loving husbands and spouses. Then or now. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 7/10/2006 12:26:22 AM |
I even quit the band I was in, because it bothered her. - diabolicalreflection
Say no more. You could have said only this, and I could have told you it was a mistake and doomed from the start.
Don't ever do that again. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/26/2006 7:21:47 PM | | I KNOW SOME WOMEN BLAME ALL MEN AND SOME MEN BLAME ALL WOMEN. AND SAY THEY ARE ALL ALIKE. BUT I DON'T BELIEVEN THAT. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. AND EVERYONE DESERVES A CHANCE TO PROVE IT. EVERYONE SHOULD BE RESPECTED FOR WHAT THEY ARE. AND NOT BE BLAMED FOR OTHER PEOPLES DOINGS. AS FAR AS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. TO START OFF WITH. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOVE AND LONINESS. THAT IS WHY THEY DON'T STAY TOGETHER. TODAY PEOPLE GO ON SOMEONE ELSE INSTEAD OF STAY WITH THE PERSON THEIR WITH. AS SOON AS SOMETHING GOES WRONG THEY MOVE ON. IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT WAY. YOU SHOULD SIT AND TALK AND NOT CALL BAD NAMES. AND YOU SHOULDN'T RAISE YOUR VOICE AND NOT FIGHT OR ARGUE. YOU SHOULD SIT AND TALK LIKE TWO GROWN UP ADULTS. I KNOW ONLY OF ONE COUPLE THAT ARE MARRIED AND NEVER HAD A FIGHT OR ARGUED. THEY TALK IF SOMETHING BOTHERS THEM. AND HE BUYS HER FLOWERS EVERY SINGLE WEEK. HE NEVER MISSED A WEEK. I GUESS IT WOULD KEEP UP THE ROMANTIC LIFE GOING FOR THEM. I THOUGHT OF IT. LOVE IS UNCONDITIONAL. YOU STILL LOVE A PERSON NO MATTER WHAT. THERE IS ONLY ONE THING THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALOWED IN YOUR MARRIAGE. AND THAT IS CHEATING ON THE OTHER PERSON. OTHER THAN THAT. YOU SHOULD SIT AND TALK. THAT IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. NO ONE IS PERFECT. NOT EVEN THE PERSON THAT THINKS HE OR SHE DOESN'T FORGIVE. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS FORGIVE. BECAUSE ONE DAY. YOU WILL MAKE A MISTAKE. YOUR NOT PERFECT. SO DON'T EXPECT THE OTHER PERSON TO BE PERFECT. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/27/2006 4:59:48 AM | | There are still a lot of men/women who have strong morals and believe in faithfulness, and committment...the problem is that we are overlooked becuase we are not considered "exciting" - we are the girls who won't put out on the first, second or even third dates, and get dumped - the ones who don't dress like tramps, and are never "seen" - men claim to want good girls, but when push comes to shove, a lot of them will choose the fancy package over the plain one, then complain about morals when their fancy package turns out to be sour inside. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/27/2006 5:03:42 PM | Everyone gets hurt, but hopefully you grow from it - unconditional love - I agree it is alot easier to get from your dog however I believe, at least I still hope to find it. I think that if enough people hope/believe that someone is out there and are willing to wait for them then the person they end up with will fulfill them.
I think that the problem of today is that we tend to settle for someone that can fulfill the most pressing need of the moment and don't wait for the person who can fulfill us truly. Lets face it today it seems that you can find someone who is you are sexually compatible with or someone who you can have a good conversation with. The problem is we are impatient and jump into one or the other without waiting for the full package. You shouldn't have to give up something you love, you shouldn't have to be fake - you should click with someone that can fulfill you, accept you and broaden your mind to new ideas but respect you for who and what you are.
True love exists -I have to believe it - even if it takes me another ten years to find it, I will wait for it so that when it comes my way I can appreciate it. Look at your friends and you will see the ones that settled and the ones that have something worth waiting for. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/27/2006 6:27:08 PM | Painful way to live: express your feelings and love like
you have never been hurt. This society is set up to call
the words "I love you" weak. It's a shame those words
can also be used against someone.
I used to believe in old-fashioned morals and that the
person is innocent until proven guilty. And I want to
believe that again, but I don't know that I will be so
easy to convince. And no, doesn't mean I'll jump at the
least little thing. I will just be more careful about
letting my feelings out until I know hands down that it's
the right time.
Funny thing is.......even then it's still a big damn risk!!!
cuss words......go here. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/28/2006 8:01:10 AM |
The only unconditional love you will find will be from your mother or children
Damnation! I'd be quite PO'ed if any of my kids made a statement like that.
Reading this thread sure is a sad indictment about where this world has gone. So many people that sound so lost and frustrated. I've had my share of the same kinds of things but is that any reason to lose faith? Wait, did I say faith? Uh oh, that sounds like religion, I better get out of here now.  | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/30/2006 9:56:13 AM | "The only unconditional love you will find will be from your mother or children "
A lot of mothers are guilty of not loving their children (fathers too) ......... but God loves you and when you find God within and love yourself more then maybe you will find the one to capture your heart | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/30/2006 10:16:48 AM | Its because people have too high an expectation of love these days and it is too easy to just move on elsewhere.
At one time divorce was highly frowned on so you just got on with what you had.
Nigel. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 11/30/2006 10:34:06 AM | I don't know that true, unconditional love exists now or really ever in the past. We just don't hear about the infidelity and such that happened in the past too often just due to everyone being hush/hush about it. But, I will tell you that if you read the Bible, infidelity and unconditional love has never really existed in mass quantities. God loves you unconditionally and I believe that He is the only one capable of such love.
I know that *I* have loved someone unconditionally and it wasn't returned. All that means is I choose the wrong person for me.
When you do find someone who feels the same way about you as you do them you'll find what you are looking for. Don't give up, don't get angry and definitely don't get bitter. There are far too many fish in the sea and you WILL find the right one if you remain a positive thinker.
Cheers. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/24/2006 5:56:32 PM | | I HEAR YOU OUT THERE MY MARRIAGE ENDED MANY YEARS AGO BUT I CHOSSE TO TOUGH IT OUT FOR MY CHILDREN. MY EX WIFES INDESRECTIONS BROUGHT A CHILD IN TO THIS WORLD IMM THE APPLE OF THAT CHILDS EYE . SHE LOVES ME SO MUCH , I CANT SEE HER RIGHT NOW DUE TO MY EX AND HER SELFISH BEHAVIOR . SHE KEPT CHEATING WHILE I STAYED AT HOME TAKEN CARE OF KIDS ,SHE EVEN HIRED 8 GUYS TO BEAT ME UP . IM NOT SMALL I HELD MY OWN JUST BUMPS AND BRUISES. MY CHILDREN AND I DONT SEE EACH OTHER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I REFUSE TO TELL THE COURT I HURT MY OLDER SON . I HAVE BEEN HAVING SERIUS PROMBLEMS WITH HIM HE HAS BEEN THROUGH ALOT , HE BEGAIN TO TRY TO GET MY OLDER DAUGHTER TO STRIPE FOR HIM I TURNED HIM INTO ATTORITIES THEY SAID THEY WOULD HELP THEY DIDNT 8 MONTH LATTER I COUGHT HIM TRYING THINGS WITH MY 2 YEAR OLD BABY AGAIN THEY WOULDNT HELP . MY EX REFUSEES TO GET HELP FOR HIM DUE TO HERBEING THE REASON HE IS THE WAY HE IS. BUT NOW I GOT A BOY WITH PROBLEMS ALSO TWO GIRLS I CANT SAY I DID SOMTHING I DIDNT DO . WHAT DO I DO NOW THANK YOU JEFF | |
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