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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/25/2006 6:54:09 AM | we need to be clear--we have romantic love, and
unconditional love--which is loving someone without getting anything
back,romantic love is conditional. based on a person's looks
and personality.
not to be judgmental about it--we should of course pursue
our human desires, but i feel we should also practise unconditional
love more,even toward strangers
unconditional love cannot be insulted or injured,,,,,,
its also our souls' destiny | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/25/2006 9:43:21 AM | Posted By: heartandsoul65
"not to be judgmental about it--we should of course pursue
our human desires, but i feel we should also practise unconditional
love more,even toward strangers"
As great as that would be - it is totally unrealistic in today's world. However a friendly and respectful demeanour is not too much to ask - is it? | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/28/2006 1:42:54 AM | Posted By: heartandsoul65
"unconditional love cannot be insulted or injured,,,,,,
its also our souls' destiny "
Not sure if this is correct - it would imply that the person doing the loving has no emotions if they were not insulted or injured - unconditional love is forgiving the injuries and insults. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/28/2006 2:14:35 AM | op I hold out for the same thing, but one thing is for sure,
it aint on this site [at least in my search area]
tons of cheating women [guys too but I know less about them]
tons of rationalised cheating [well I am seperated...type shit]
girls who need more than one partner [polymorphous] some new- new age crap I don't agree with
morals? the others are right, they died in the 50's
I really could go on and on but since we agree, there is no real reason.
Kenny | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/28/2006 6:36:20 AM | I have 5 children and of course I love them all unconditionally, but someone once told me that you have to have an unconditional love for yourself first before you can possibly unconditionally love anyone else. I never really believed that because I have never been able to truly love myself due to all of the hurt that I have experienced, I've been hurt so much that you start to believe less and less in yourself and you start to believe that there must be something wrong with you in order to keep falling into this same trap. However, through some hard work and dedication devoted to ME, I have come to realize that I just made some bad choices, I always settled because I didn't think I could do better, and by doing that I ended up being with people who weren't right for me, which inevidably ended in me getting hurt once again. I have taken some time now to learn to love myself unconditionally, believe me it was a hard journey for me to travel. Now I can honestly say that the person who told me that was right. Once you love yourself unconditionally, you have a much stronger sense and feel of what it truly means. It doesn't mean that you won't get hurt again, it just means that you don't have to stop loving you just because someone else hurts you. It gives you the strength to move on.
Soulmate: not to sound negative, but I don't believe in soulmates, if there were such a thing as soul mates, there wouldn't be so many of us on this sight, especially us divorced ones, Everyone always tells me I'll find someone else, and it's probably true and if that relationship ended, I'd probably yet again find someone else, what I'm trying to say is there is always going to be someone out there for all of us, if we believe in soul mates too much we would never keep looking for someone new after our relationships end. We might think that was our soul mate that left us and there will never be another. So don't put too much effort into trying to find your "soul mate" I believe you'll be looking for a very long time and you might miss out on someone who could possibly have made you very happy because you overlooked them in your search. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/28/2006 6:49:03 AM | Yes of course there is still unconditonal love in relationships and marriage. Unconditonal love is the only real love.
It simply means that you will always love someone regardless of what happens or what they do. It doesn't mean that you will keep living with them and being abused.
Also just because you are related to someone by blood, does not mean that loving them is automatic. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/29/2006 4:46:27 PM | | yeah i often wondered that myself...a person who is stubborn and willing to go the extra yard to work t make it right and you soulmate gives you the i just want us to be friends and runs away is kind of funny... | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/29/2006 5:42:22 PM | It simply means that you will always love someone regardless of what happens or what they do...
I agree with that statement. I told my SC there's nothing he could do that would make me change the way I feel about him (well, yeah, no physical abuse or cheating, ofcourse) and I mean it. I'm not claiming 'unconditional love' right now, because we haven't been together that long...but, I know that he is the one I want to be with forever. (or close to it). | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/29/2006 6:30:56 PM | While I concur with your rant, I deduce it is for the lack of morals. A deficit to which in excess of 80% of the general population suffers from stemming from "broken homes".
As time has progressed and the divorce rate has increased, and as a result it has shattered the very fabricate of "family unity" and increased the stress level of raising children in single parent homes. A deterioration of instilling "principles, morals and values" has created a society of self absorbed individuals.
The increase in violence, sex, and dispicable television programs glorifying horrid conduct has also contributed to the deficit of "principles, morals, and values".
Now with that said, add in the factor that research indicates 80% of the population has an IQ between 75 - 100, which is considered "average", that in my eyes equates to "they are stupid".
End results are what you see in our society.
However, there is 10% of the population (IQ in excess of 140) to which holds fast to your belief system under normal circumstances. Upon occassion society (irgnorance - stupidity) forces them to "snap" and they resort to morphing into serial killers. But not to often. and 1% of them actually "walk the dark side of life" because they have become "greedy" and placed greater value in money.
While my explanation may not offer you comfort, it is the rational. Not an excuse by any stretch of the imagination. However, to sum it up in layman terms, it is the fault of the masses at large, communities across this Nation that have failed to care about the basics in life that do bring true happiness. To live by one simple golden rule; "treat others and you wish to be treated." | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/29/2006 8:12:39 PM | we are near the apocolypse
Ever seen the movie left behind?
read nostradumas (misspelled probally)
we are near the end of the world.
they will be floods of great magnetude (new orleans- katrina)
they will be holy wars (Isreal, Polystein)
reform party (republicans, iraq faux-demcracy)
disease (drug addiction, aids, hepatits, herpes, hiv, tb)
worshipping of false prophets (bush, pat robinson, rush limbaugh and yes air america)
lot of theft (enron, dynergy, worldcom, apple)
morality is almost dead God will deliver the rightous and when they end is near will you be ready?
back in the 1950's i was not alive but yes this was true
1 people had living wages the FATHER WORKED!!! The MOTHER STAYED AT HOME RAISING THE KIDS
2 WIC DID NOT EXIST ONLY FOR WIDOWS!!!!!!
3 If the CHILD was OUT OF LINE they would GET THE BELT!!!!!! child abuse beaurcacy ended that!!!
4 Leave to beaver was on
5 If you were DIVORCED YOU WERE AN OUTCAST
6 People said GOD IN SCHOOL
7 Corporate America look after the little man
What happened?
1. History of the 60's the hippies, the now, and the politically correct started to corrupt society
2. Martin Luther King Jr was a man of faith but the FBI did not want him to create a meaniful society
3. Nixon in early 70's screw things up more by spying on the democrats which Ford (RIP) calmed everyone down
4. Reagan Took office after Carter and while his moral issues were subperb he forgot to focus on the Economy ie Savings and Loan scandal, and stock market crash so what did that tell people?
a. BOTH MOMMY AND DADDY HAVE TO WORK
b. NO TIME FOR CHILD
c. QUICK DIVORCE CHEAP LAWYER
d. CHILD SUPPORT AILAMONY AINT THAT GRAND
e. LETS GO TO KUWAIT (BUSH 1990 OR SO)
after that things started to go downhill
Liberlism gave way to "We can't say God anymore even though on the dollar bill" and
"Who said the word nigga?" and my favorite
"Lets take the cigarette out of fdr" and "you don't spank your children", and "abortion on demand, pull the plug cause i have a bloody right to blow my brains out"
this kind of crap y'know. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/29/2006 9:01:03 PM | | Now you see why I say I should have lived in the past.I'll take the 50s over today anytime.I blame liberalism,inflation and feminism for the destruction of the tradional family.I think the screwed up adults today were the daycare generation of the 80s.Screw up the kids they grow to be screwed up adults and now we have a screwed up society.More and more people are becoming sociopathic,selfish and dangerous.Think things are bad now imagine what its gonna be like 10 years from now.Some dyke with a buzz cut and a life long membership to her local feminist group would say I'm a dinosaur cause I'd want my wife home with the kids,cooking,cleaning and looking after me.For that I'd marry her,take care of her,protect her,love her,give her children and be faithful I think thats a fair trade don't you? now its everybody for themselves.I heard some chick on TV saying marriage is an antiquated institution that should be abolished....yeah were going the right direction huh? my parents generation had an average marriage of 30 years,today its 4 and getting worse.In a way I'm glad I won't live to be 100 years old if this is the future no thanks. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 12/30/2006 3:56:17 AM | | Hey what can I say but the usual, the world is s%$$. People can say looking for negative that's all you see, but I think i am being a realist and I call everything how i see it. I'm tired of giving people the benefit of the doubt, so to me everybody bad. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/14/2007 6:40:12 PM | | Morals is something we are bread with, taught as a child and carried through to adulthood. Most families are too busy worrying about the cash flow than what the children are doing when they are not present. There is not please and thank you. A deal made with honour with just a handshake disappeared and respect for elders when floating out the window. How is one to learn about unconditonal love when they don't understand the moral system. How can they forgive one another for hurting and let downs and try to work them out instead of running away. Not one person on this planet is perfect. Only The Man is the perfect one. We have free choice. You can either choose to forgive and get on with loving that person, or hate and hold the anger inside for a long period of time. I am not saying to forget, just to know that there has been mistakes make and time will help heal all wounds. If you love your partner as you love yourself, things will have a way of working themselves out. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/23/2007 10:46:18 AM | In agree with you so very much, these forums are great, actually get more honesty from them than these dating sights. I would rather be alone at age 33 as a gay woman than settle for second best or a person that cant reach me in many levels.
We live and learn. I have realised that love can never truelly be set out in stone, words from a book by a psycholigist. However that doesnt mean live in fear of being hurt.
How many people do you know who are truelly so happy withinin their relationships marriages etc. Very few.
Why?
Like you say, easier to walk away than talk with one another, even argue, clear the air, reach some kind of compromise. Communication is the basis for any healthy relationship, then you can laugh together then you can love another freely and feel that joy in doing so.
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/23/2007 11:50:26 AM | | We are living in a world where a marriage is the same as what going steady used to be. People trade in the ex like cars when the newness wares off. That's kind of sad and selfish. Each person, just like cars, have their own nicks and dings as well as previous mileage. Each traded car still carries with it a part of the previous owner. For a person it is baggage. Either we accept the mileage and baggage of that person or we don't. It seems that the tolerance for the long term relationship is getting shorter and shorter. Sometimes sticking with that reliable person through the storms of life should make us appreciate them more in the long run, but people are pushing the eject button to early these days. What can we do? | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/23/2007 9:19:43 PM | | people seem to always want to improve and upgrade these days we do it with furniture,electronics,cars,homes,etc.these days it almost seems people are doin this with people,the values ,love ,compassion,comfort has been replaced with money,flat stomachs,muscle,looks,etc.i really hope everyone isnt like this,but it seems like the trend | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:05:22 PM | I think morals went out the window when internet dating started. Men and woman realized they could find people to have sex with, without having to get into a 'relationship.' This was much easier for them. But hidden away are the few who's desire is for true love between 2 people, and actual relationships. And all the people like that can hope for is to find someone who wants the same.  | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:15:17 PM | I know exactly where you're coming from...the old ways do not
exist anymore. The things you are speaking of existed with our
parents & grandparents...they do not exist with our generation
anymore. When our parents & grandparents married...they
married each other for life, regardless of the obsticles they had
to face...they still remained together. My parents were married
for 52 years when my Dad passed away. There is a very SLIM
chance of a married couple in our generation ever reaching that
number of years. | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:55:14 PM | I believe true love happens once in a life time. As for myself I was lucky to find that once. I have dated a few guys and have been married once. I remember when I first saw him it was at night at a house party.I was about to leave when I happend to look up and their he was. He looked at me and came over right away. We talked , and I got his number. What was funny about it was that I called him , and we arranged to meet for a drink. Well wouldnt you know he stood me up. Im thinking looser, but whats funny was that one night about four months later I called him up in Florida on vacation drunk. He answered the phone,and boy did I let him have a piece of my mind. We ended up laughing about it, and set another date for when I returned. He made it that time and we were togeather for four years after that until the day he was killed in a car accident. I used to ask him will you love me forever until the day I die, and promise to never leave me,and he told me Ill love you until the day I die, and so he did. I miss him with all my heart because I new that no matter what he would have always been their for me , and myself for him. Im not a perfect person and I loved him because he accepted that about me,and I accepted that about him.
So do I believe in real love yes I do ,but you have to be able to accept the good with the bad. Do I believe that I will love again yes I do.
I believe you will as well you just have to let yourself open up to it so that when it comes along you dont srew it up.
In order to love again you have to learn to trust again.
I believe that their is someone special out their for everyone.
Wishing you the best.
ciao | |
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| What happened to Morals, and true unconditonal love?
Posted: 5/30/2007 8:00:22 PM | The unconditional love is with God first of all.. Because he is the only one that can love you with out ****ing and complaing and winning.. Other then your Mother.. NO! Wait she did that for the first 18yrs of your life.. Maybe it was your Father.. NO! He did that and ? Will he ever stop some day! Grandparents.. That is who has the Unconditional love, and they accept you for who ever you are, or what ever you look like in this day and age.
As for the rest... There are so many People on this planet that no one gets it.. | |
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